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To: wideawake
The very first mention of the Judas text is from 180 AD.

Indicating it existed well before 180, since Ireneaus was inveighing against a text which had some currency among the Gnostics.

76 posted on 04/07/2006 8:02:26 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Indicating it existed well before 180, since Ireneaus was inveighing against a text which had some currency among the Gnostics.

There is no indication it existed "well before" - since we know from external sources that many of Irenaeus' criticisms in the Adversus Haereses were directed at newly-minted groups as well as older ones.

For all we know the Cainites were just as likely the hot new cult on the scene.

88 posted on 04/07/2006 8:17:15 AM PDT by wideawake
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