Posted on 04/07/2006 7:07:15 PM PDT by pulaskibush
Bye, Bye, in 08, Limp Wrist Frist, we hardly knew ye, but of what we do know, go, blow.
The senators would have us to believe that we cannot identify and send home 11 million illegals. Then why do they belevee that we can:
1) identify and pinpoint exactly when every illegal came to this country.
2) investigate and keep a record of which ones have paid their taxes.
3} keep an exact record of all those who have paid the fine required by this legislation before they can become citizens.
4) test them all to make sure they can read and write english fluently.
5) do background checks to be sure they have not committed any crimes.
6) etc.
If we actually to do all these things it will be much harder and a lot more expensive than just identifying as many as possible and sending them home.
They know damned well that little if any of these things will get accomplished and everything will continue just as it currently is FUBAR.
While Frist is at it, I wish he'd give me "a temporary million dollars". I'd be willing to return it when the temporary worker plan expires and the worker is returned to Mexico, like that will EVER happen.
Here’s what I've been sending Republicans. 1.
The most important aspect of immigration reform is to secure the border. The media and the pro-illegal agenda have created the myth that we can’t secure the border unless we do something for the 11 million. All of the bills being proposed in the US Senate only delay the House bill that deals directly with the border problem.
2.
American voters want to remove the 11 million out of this country. • The recall election of Pro-illegal immigration Governor Grey Davis was won by Arnold Schwarzenegger, who also got 31 percent of the Hispanic vote after opposing SB60 (drivers licenses for illegals) and having Pete Wilson in his camp. Bustamante, the most popular pro-illegal candidate, got only 52 percent of the Hispanic vote and of course lost. • In Arizona Proposition 200, another law blocking illegals from welfare, passed easily with a 56 percent yes vote, including 40% of the Hispanic vote • California, a liberal blue state, voted for Prop 187 which would have denied illegals welfare. This resolution was voted for by 25% of hispanics. • Illegal immigrant groups challenge these propositions in courts because they know that millions of illegals depend on welfare to stay in the US
3.
Forcing illegals out of this country will not destroy the US economy • Illegals are less than 5% of the workforce, they are not a majority in any industry nor are they “the backbone” of the economy. • Many of the companies that hire illegals make billions in profits and could easily increase their wages to hire the majority of US workers in their industry. • The same economic excuse to defend illegal labor was used to successfully defend slavery in the US for decades, resulting in the Civil War. • The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that illegals cost the federal government $10 billion a year. State and local governments lose even more.
4.
Republicans will not get the “Hispanic Vote” by pandering to the illegal agenda • Hispanic activist groups are loyal to Mexico first and the socialist agenda second. The National Hispanic Leadership Agenda give democrats over 90% favorable rating. A Conservative has no chance of gaining favor with these groups • Propositions that cut welfare to illegals are supported by Americans, including many hispanics. Even more support is for securing the borders. • The way for Conservatives to reach out to hispanics is the same way they reach out to the rest of America, by speaking and voting Conservative. • The Hispanic Vote is 6% of the voting population
I'm not in agreement with the President on this issue.
But I am NOT in agreement his legacy rises and falls on this anymore than Reagan's did. Nor am I interested in indulging him as a target.
I'm far more interested in targeting the people that do NOT have principles guiding them (even wrongly) on this issue and those individuals reside in the legislative branch. Their careers rise and fall on a paper ballot. They've demonstrated they project most of their actions on politics, little on principle. That alone can guide them kicking and screaming to the right conclusion...provided the people provide enough pressure. As well, mexican flags in the streets don't hurt in turning up the outrage of the majority of this country either.
I've determined to attempt to make this THE issue the election turns on this fall. Force these Senators and Congressman to take a position.
Just document the people and fingerprint them. Keep out the folks from Saudi Arabia and other countries that are our enemies. Mexicans are not our enemies, folks.
You're right.
This was no true reform plan. Just a way to maintain status quo with cover. But the cover is thin enough to see thru.
I am still wondering why the Mexicans can't make it in their own country?
It's too bad someone can't start a positive campaign about Mexico. By this, I mean look at all the land that is just sitting there. It's mostly untouched. Look at what it's people could do if they just would. The untapped natural resources that the Mexican people should claim as their own; not the government. I do not understand why they can't be resourceful in their own country. It is a gold mine just waiting to happen.
It's too bad someone can't start a positive campaign about Mexico. By this, I mean look at all the land that is just sitting there. It's mostly untouched. Look at what it's people could do if they just would. The untapped natural resources that the Mexican people should claim as their own; not the government. I do not understand why they can't be resourceful in their own country. It is a gold mine just waiting to happen.
Here's how I feel about that. I am with you in supporting even tougher laws to protect this country and its borders and I am with you in holding the lawmakers' feet to the fire to try to get tougher laws. BUT, the fact remains that we have a President who is not even using the tools he has right now to defend this country. Without a change in direction from him, what reason do we have to believe that he would be any stronger or more effective with more tools? Now, I recall him saying last week that he would begin enforcing our laws. I want to see him do that. If he does, if he shows that he IS able and willing to defend the borders, I think a lot of people will be more willing to consider some of the other things he says he wants. If he doesn't, I do believe that this will failure will be a huge part of his legacy.
They are taught from childhood that America owes them a living. The Mexican "government" does everything it can to get it's people across the border. They sue the US, give illegals survival packs, instruction booklets, and dual citizenship. They get billions from illegals so it's worth it to them.
What does "secure" mean? Is there a statistical definition or something?
Absolutely!
He, and other high Mexican immigration enthusiasts, are all concerned about the status of illegals already here.
Hellooooo! You have what you want, Mr. President. Neither the Minute Men nor anyone else is going to do anything whatsoever in the foreseeable future about the illegals who are already here.
So why dont you do your job and fix the EMERGENCY part of the problem? How about securing the border so another 11 million don't come in.
WH credibility here is ZERO.
And let the next group of spineless, corrupt incompetents move into place, just like a Pez candy?
Let's face it--our politicians, left and right, with few exceptions, are out of touch with mainstream America, completely and wholly. They have no idea how the common American lives because (a) it's been decades since they've been here, (b) they've never been here, (c) they've spent too many years in the marbled halls of Washington, (d) all of the above.
Maybe a rigorous succession movement would grab their attention....?
I just think it is a means of applying pressure to do something. If you were the head of DHS right now, would you be willing to "certify" that our borders are presently secure? Can you imagine yourself looking down at that piece of paper and wondering what the press will print about you if you sign it?
Let's face it--our politicians, left and right, with few exceptions, are out of touch with mainstream America, completely and wholly. They have no idea how the common American lives because (a) it's been decades since they've been here, (b) they've never been here, (c) they've spent too many years in the marbled halls of Washington, (d) all of the above.
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Well put -- it will take (c). Pray for term limits, but that is asking the fox to relieve himself of the duty of watching the hen house....never happen.
1. Corruption
2. Culture
As it is in most (if not all) 3rd world countries.
Nope. Thus the amendment is a bit of a joke.
I think a lot of people are afraid that the President might gleefully accept and execute any new laws regarding guest workers and that he will not be as enthusiastic about implementing border security or internal enforcement portions of the law. He seems to need considerable encouragement and prodding in those areas. The certification amendment reflects all that.
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