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"The True History of the Southwest, 101"
My own study and research | April 8th, 2006 | Travis McGee

Posted on 04/08/2006 10:23:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee

"The True History of the Southwest, 101"

The amount of historical idiocy and fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest is staggering, chief among them the "Aztlan" fairy tales. What's the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The "conquistadores" (that means "conquerors") did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the "lost cities of gold." One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn 100s of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest--not with hugs and kisses! It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul- mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners today, who spin the "new bronze race of Mestizos" toro-mierda.

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish rule. However, the distant provinces of the current US Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of independent but strife- torn Mexico. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.

For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in this new power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been around for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal citizens in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish-era standard of living. Mexican influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.

Increasingly, a growing America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via gigantic wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the SPANISH in these states subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves "Mexicans" at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN.

So how long did Mexico City have even nominal control over the Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards until the arrival of the Americans. The SPANISH inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all the received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.

Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America they can never obtain in Mexico.

And now, we are supposed to let any Mexican from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some "historical claim" of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn't happen. The SPANISH in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade.

In sum, NO current inhabitants of Mexico have ANY claim on even one single inch of the Southwest!

NOT ONE citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the USA to reclaim property they were deprived of, NOT ONE.

They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.

It's time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the prevalent Aztlaner fairy tales.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; aztlan; immigration; laraza; mexico; reconquista; zaq
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1 posted on 04/08/2006 10:23:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; antisocial; archy; backhoe; Badray; Bernard Marx; B4Ranch; t_skoz; ...
Americans had better wake up, before we find ourselves in the middle of a bloody civil war over this issue.

Arming ourselves with the historical facts is step one.


2 posted on 04/08/2006 10:26:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Bump that, Travis...


3 posted on 04/08/2006 10:26:29 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (betätigen Sie ein für Englisch)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Travis McGee


BUMP!


4 posted on 04/08/2006 10:27:47 AM PDT by onyx (It's easier to indict a ham sandwich or Tom DeLay than it is to indict a Democrat.)
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To: Travis McGee

BTTT!


5 posted on 04/08/2006 10:28:35 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Travis McGee

You should write a book about this. :-p

Ohhh, Never mind. :)


6 posted on 04/08/2006 10:29:30 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Have you hugged an illegal alien today?)
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To: Travis McGee

*bump* we better wake up... or this is gonna start smelling like palestinian crap.


7 posted on 04/08/2006 10:34:07 AM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Cinnamon

you're a writer... interesting books you have there. will bookmark later consumtion

godspeed


8 posted on 04/08/2006 10:36:43 AM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Lil'freeper

Ping


9 posted on 04/08/2006 10:37:41 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: Travis McGee
In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves "Mexicans" at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN.

Very true. The maternal side of my wife's family were Coloradans long before Colorado was a state. Ask any of them about thier heritage, and they will emphatically identify themselves as having SPANISH roots.

10 posted on 04/08/2006 10:38:44 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: Cinnamon
We have a small consulate here in Portland, OR. I was thinking a Freep would be in order.

"Stop Exporting Your Poverty"
"Stay out of our Politics"
"End the Invasion"
"Friends don't Break and Enter"
"No Amnesty"
"Azatlan is for Dummies"
"End Mexican Corruption"
"Fix Mexico"
"Go Home, Please"

11 posted on 04/08/2006 10:39:20 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Denver Ditdat

p.s. - Travis, if you have or are thinking of starting a ping list would you please add me to it? Thanks.


12 posted on 04/08/2006 10:39:51 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: Travis McGee

Major BTTT


13 posted on 04/08/2006 10:40:12 AM PDT by wardaddy ("I believe it is peace for our time... go home and get a nice quiet sleep")
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To: Travis McGee

Even later, there was the Gadsen Purchase, as well. It makes me wonder what these Americans today think of the usurpers who denigrate their heritage as Spaniards, and then as Americans by invading en masse as if they are somehow entitled to.


14 posted on 04/08/2006 10:42:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Travis McGee

Well done!


16 posted on 04/08/2006 10:45:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - Open borders, in the age of terror, are criminal negligence.)
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To: Travis McGee
100% Correct BTT Ping.

I feel it may be to late only a fraction of citizens are willing to fight for anything and among those that are no one wants to go first

17 posted on 04/08/2006 10:46:33 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: Travis McGee

Should we come up with a new term, or is Balkanization good enough?


18 posted on 04/08/2006 10:47:04 AM PDT by Flyer (Preserve American Culture)
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To: Cinnamon
*bump* we better wake up... or this is gonna start smelling like palestinian crap.

Way passed that now.

20 posted on 04/08/2006 10:47:33 AM PDT by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: Travis McGee
Obviously, your well written article is a racist tool of the pro imperialist neo-colonization, anti immigration, white hegemony power structure who wants to deny the "la raza cósmica" our proper place in history.

< / deep sarcasm >

Note to all illegals Mexicans:

Get a clue!!! We won the Mexican American war about 150 years.

21 posted on 04/08/2006 10:47:41 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Travis McGee

Hope you don't mind, but I found this piece of writing to be so excellent, I headlined it on my new site:

http://www.usbordersecurity.org/

Let me know if you object, will you?

EV


22 posted on 04/08/2006 10:51:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - Open borders, in the age of terror, are criminal negligence.)
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To: Travis McGee

This article was really "rico y suave".

Regretably, Arizona already lost. The State Legislature is knocking off early and surrendering the Capitol to the marchers.

And what I want to know is; Where can I exchange gringo dollars for good ol' Pesos?

I often thought about retiring in Mexico. And now it seems I got my wish.


23 posted on 04/08/2006 10:53:21 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Join me! Every night I pray for Global Warming . (And I think it's beginning to work.))
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To: Travis McGee

mi estoy cargando en los pantalones!


24 posted on 04/08/2006 10:53:36 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

You have a car in your pants?

(Sorry, I'm having problems accomadating the new official language.)


25 posted on 04/08/2006 10:55:32 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Join me! Every night I pray for Global Warming . (And I think it's beginning to work.))
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
actually it is slang for * I am loading in my pants *

However the current translation means * I am $hitting in my pants*

26 posted on 04/08/2006 10:57:08 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Will you take out my typos? LOL!


27 posted on 04/08/2006 10:58:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

BUMP for later


28 posted on 04/08/2006 11:00:16 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Travis McGee

Well done! Thank you for this.


29 posted on 04/08/2006 11:03:09 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Is cheap, illegal labor worth one life?)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL...I'll go check...


30 posted on 04/08/2006 11:03:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - Open borders, in the age of terror, are criminal negligence.)
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To: Travis McGee

Your pictured criminal alien invaders and their supporters are with every passing week looking more and more like the kind of terroristic alien invaders with which the Israelis must deal.

These are indeed invaders - not migrants.


31 posted on 04/08/2006 11:06:19 AM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Thanks (er. . . muchas gracias) for the translation.


32 posted on 04/08/2006 11:06:41 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Join me! Every night I pray for Global Warming . (And I think it's beginning to work.))
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To: Travis McGee

BTTT


33 posted on 04/08/2006 11:09:21 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Matthew 24:37"For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah.)
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To: Travis McGee

Hardly any typos worth talking about. Made a couple miniscule changes that you'd probably have a hard time finding....

Really, you made the case concisely, accurately and pasionately.

Excellent work, Travis!


34 posted on 04/08/2006 11:10:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - Open borders, in the age of terror, are criminal negligence.)
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To: Travis McGee

I suspect that most of you have seen this email - Open Letter to George Bush, but it's worth repeating:

Dear President Bush:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms need to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.

5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pre's. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't enforce any labor laws or tax laws.

13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pre's. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.


35 posted on 04/08/2006 11:10:29 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

no piense nada de ello


36 posted on 04/08/2006 11:11:52 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Baynative

Ningún problema, mi amigo.


37 posted on 04/08/2006 11:14:29 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
my I am loading in the trousers!

Babel fish translation

38 posted on 04/08/2006 11:15:07 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Zavien Doombringer

"mi estoy cargando en los pantalones!"

Translation: "I am sh$ting in my pants."

FReepers take note: memorize this. It will be a useful phrase in the future. (Especially if, like me, you live in the Southwest.)


39 posted on 04/08/2006 11:17:58 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Join me! Every night I pray for Global Warming . (And I think it's beginning to work.))
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To: Travis McGee

TRUTH!


40 posted on 04/08/2006 11:40:25 AM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: Travis McGee; All
Americans had better wake up, before we find ourselves in the middle of a bloody civil war over this issue.

I have been psuedo-blogging, for years, a couple of the elements in WWIV ( III being the Cold War ), in which we find ourselves engaged.

The first element?

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

The other, somewhat interlocking element is this one:

-Thunder on the Border-- (Minuteman Project)--

41 posted on 04/08/2006 11:41:17 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the lesson and posting


42 posted on 04/08/2006 11:41:54 AM PDT by Yasotay
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To: Travis McGee

Nicely done!

Bump.


43 posted on 04/08/2006 11:50:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent! Btt!


44 posted on 04/08/2006 12:02:22 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: CAP811

"Way passed that now."

Yeah, it's all over but the shooting. My advice is to get ready.


45 posted on 04/08/2006 12:02:48 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Travis McGee
Very informative - thanks!

(BTW, as a proud owner of your first book, I'm looking forward to the completion of Domestic Enemies.)

az

46 posted on 04/08/2006 12:12:52 PM PDT by Arizona
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To: Travis McGee

Some more important facts to consider:
The Spanish speaking, American immigrants and "americanized" Indians, considered themselves "Texans" and declared their independence from Mexico. The new nation of Texas was recognized by all the European capitals and by the US. THEY fought a war with Mexico to establish this independence and quite a few died. Only AFTER they had achieved sovereignty did they, THEN, petition the US to become a state (a situation not all Texans are happy with even today). The rest of the southwestern area (southern California) became part of the Gadsen Purchase- for which we paid quite a rich sum to Mexico (15 million if I recall correctly- the SAME amount we paid for the ENTIRE Louisiana territory).
So next time you hear some Mexican claim that we "stole" the southwest from Mexico, just remind him of all these facts.


47 posted on 04/08/2006 12:13:24 PM PDT by 13Sisters76
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To: Travis McGee

bump


48 posted on 04/08/2006 12:16:41 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Travis McGee

Well done.


49 posted on 04/08/2006 12:32:08 PM PDT by Mr. Rational
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To: Travis McGee
Exactly the words are political espionage by insurgents..
with treasonous help by the democrat party and RINOS..
including the White House as incrededulous as it sounds.

Immigration has nothing to do with it.. and more; some legal immigrants are could be espionage agents as well..

Bush is playing with fire here.. it could get him HUNG..
When reality is resumed in America.. Did I say its not about immigration?.. Its about Coup D'etat in slow motion.. its been going on for decades.. and is heating up..

Not all Americans are oblivious..

50 posted on 04/08/2006 12:44:58 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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