Justice for immigrants

Dodge City Daily Globe ^ | April 8 2006 | Charlene Scott

[aft_lizard]

An Ecumenical Day focusing on justice for immigrants will draw U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback and local religious leaders from Catholic, Episcopal, Methodist, Lutheran and Presbyterian churches to the Cathedral of Our Lady of Guadalupe on April 18.

The large gathering that will begin at 9:30 a.m. and end at 4:30 p.m. will be open to the general public. Pre-registration is required by Monday.

A Kansas Republican, Brownback joined Democrats as part of a bipartisan coalition on the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee voting recently to clear the way for 11 million illegal aliens to seek U.S. citizenship.

The committee voted against controversial proposed criminal penalties for illegal immigrants and any U.S. citizens who assist them, a proposal in a House-approved bill that a Houston Catholic newspaper said "shames the United States."

Brownback will discuss the immigration issue during the Ecumenical Day, and United Methodist Bishop Scott Jones will engage the senator in a conversation relating to points made in the Oct. 18, 2005, Interfaith Statement of Immigration issued by a national interfaith network.

Other speakers will include Catholic Bishop Ronald M. Gilmore of the Diocese of Dodge City; the Rev. Don Owens, Presbyterian General Presbyter; Episcopal Bishop James Adams Jr.; and the Rev. John Kreidler, representing Lutheran Bishop Gerald Mansholt.

The Ecumenical Day will begin with registration and a continental breakfast at 9:30 a.m., followed by a welcome and gathering prayer. "Voices of Immigrants" will be presented by several immigrants who will tell their stories, among them former Garden City Mayor and present City Commissioner Juana "Janie" Perkins.

[aft_lizard]

The site requires registration to view.

Bishop Gilmore is a big-time supporter of illegal aliens and has held many meetings on this issue. Is liberation theology becoming more prominant in the Catholic Church? And this continues to prove my suspicians I have had about Sam Brownback.

[BenLurkin]

JUSTICE = deportation!

[ncountylee]

Justice for taxpayers should be the aim of our elected "servants."

[Bahbah]

Justice for lawbreakers???? Tht used to mean punishment.

[Liz]

The illegal invasion has concentrated the attention of Americans on the nature of democracy and its central bulwark against anarchy---our Constitution and the rule
of law.

The arrogance of these illegal mental midgets---- lettuce pickers and hamburger flippers. These imbeciles actually believe wavng the Mexican flag in our faces helps their case.

Some lowlife drug lord actually told these morons that Americans are a bunch of suckers who cannot see past the smoke and mirrors, and that we would sit still for their abhorent immigration amnesty bill.

The drug cadres, the pushers and smugglers, are hiding behind the backsides of vote-hungry US elected officials bandying about the bill that treats these lawbreakers better than law-abiding US citizens.


No one is impressed by this cadre of spineless marionettes dancing limply on the strings of corruption, manipulated by the unseen alien horde puppetmasters lurking behind the scenes, ready to pounce on US assets.

[Starve The Beast]

"Justice" has become a code word. It doesn't really mean anything in this context, but it does tell you something about the speaker.

[blackie]

This isn't about immigration, it's about Foreign Invaders!

What the hell is wrong with the leadership of the Catholic Church!

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!

[hosepipe]

[ No one is impressed by this cadre of spineless marionettes dancing limply on the strings of corruption, manipulated by the unseen alien horde puppetmasters lurking behind the scenes, ready to pounce on US assets. ]

Nicely put.. almost prose..

[HighlyOpinionated]

What about MY idea???

A solution to two issues.

Anchor Babies are put up for adoption by US Citizens and the illegal-lawbreaker parents are deported.

I've emailed my Federal and State (Georgia) congresspeople this idea.

Seems reasonable to me. But then, I'm a citizen. I don't know how an adopted anchor baby would feel about his birth parents when he grows up should they contact him about sponsoring their coming back to the USofA. He might feel as if he's being used.

But I still say -- put the anchor babies up for adoption to US Citizens and send the illegal lawbreaking birth parents back to their homeland. TAGGED and with tubes tied and a vasectomy.

[aft_lizard]

I think the Catholic Church in America is into supporting illegals because it helps to expand there coffers, and like I mentioned in my first post, I think liberation theology also has something to do with this.

[p23185]

JUSTICE = deportation!

All 20+ million of them including any high schoolers that were brought here as 1 and 2 year olds. They have had plenty of time to get into the "legal immigration line" and there is no excuse even if it was the fault of their illegal parents 16 years ago. Illegal is illegal and no amount of spin is going to change it. I think GWB should be impeached for allowing another country to invade America and not make a dent in closing the border. If a terrorists causes damage inside America and it is found they snuck in through our open borders, Katie bar the doors because even Repub will have to call for impeachment. No amount of words can express the anger I feel when I see the American flag taken down and the Mexican flag hoisted and the person begin charged is the American. No amount of words can express the anger I feel when I see thousands of illegal aliens marching in my street and all the law and order types just standing around no doing a DAMN THING - they should be made to show their papers or be put on a southbound bus NOW.

[axes_of_weezles]

I think it's to refresh the congregations of Catholics for the pederast priests.

[operation clinton cleanup]

Illegal immigrants supporting religions Americans won't?

[operation clinton cleanup]

I was born and raised a Catholic, and I remember in the early 70's our Church supported a boycott of produce in support of Ceasar Chavez... I was about 8 at the time, but I remember my Mom making a big deal about not buying lettuce.

[ImpBill]

Hmmmmmmm!

I am for justice for them.

They broke "U.S. LAW". Let's have some justice.

What a freaking Bazaro world we are living in.

[4U2OUI]

Aaaaaaaaaah.

Raul will rue the day he ignored the rule of LAW.

[aft_lizard]

MY parents are/were both Catholics in the Diocese of Dodge City and they dont quite see eye to eye with the Church on this issue. Its one thing to help a human being, its quite another to help him break the law and thats where the Church leaves the plantation here.

[Milhous]

Yet more Leftist (first and foremost) Catholic clergy publicly posing pretending they speak for conservative Catholics.

[Milhous]

Its one thing to help a human being, its quite another to help him break the law and thats where the Church leaves the plantation here.

"2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."

Catholic Catechism, courtesy of Zetman

[DoughtyOne]

Your damned straight it should be.

[DoughtyOne]

Ooops...

You're damned straight it should be.

[blackie]

I don't know much about the religion, one of my wives was a Catholic, we never discussed Church dogma, though. :):)

[mtbopfuyn]

What about justice for taxpaying legal citizens?

[Smartass]

THE NATION WITHIN A NATION

Phyllis Spivey April 4, 2006 NewsWithViews.com

Are you listening, America? Did you hear the wake up call generated by Latino protests against pending immigration legislation?

It should be clear by now that what’s growing within U.S. borders is a nation within a nation. And the new nation is comprised of lawbreakers, many of whom claim the Southwest as their own. They disrespect our Constitution, our institutions, our flag and our legal processes, and from all indications owe their loyalty to another country. Yet they demand the rights and benefits meant solely for law abiding American citizens.

In pursuit of those rights, Latinos launched a series of demonstrations across the U.S., culminating in a 500,000 person march in Los Angeles, Saturday, March 25. Two days later, anarchy reigned at many Southern California schools where an estimated 22,,000 protesting students boycotted classes, blocked freeways and city streets. The same day thousands of demonstrators marched in Detroit, Grand Rapids and Washington, D.C.

Mel Johnson, writing for Human Events Online, ominously calls it "the new normal ... the predictable and unimpeded flow of the political culture of Latin America into the United States." Holding signs in Spanish, waving Mexican flags, chanting "Mexico! Mexico!", waves of marching humanity convey a message: We’re here; we’re powerful; ignore us at your peril.

Johnson warns that what "the protests truly represent is the colonization of America by the Latin style of politics." Let’s put it another way: The Third World is moving on the First World. Today it’s peaceful demonstrations that merely imply threat, but what of tomorrow? Rioting, burning, and pillaging? Think France and the Muslims. Think Bosnia and Kosovo.

Who knows what members of the Senate Judiciary Committee were thinking when they bypassed tough immigration legislation approved by the House to produce an amnesty measure promoted by Senators John McCain and Ted Kennedy. It puts 11 million to 20 million illegal workers on a path to U.S. citizenship and creates a guest worker program.

The committee’s action was breaking news on CNN Anchor Lou Dobbs’ March 27 program. Unable to conceal his outrage, Dobbs quoted President Theodore Roosevelt about the importance of being an immigrant in this country.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American."

"There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room but for one flag, the American flag ... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Moving on, Dobbs declared: "The government doesn’t know how many illegal aliens live in the United States. But we know what they cost. And that’s plenty." CNN Correspondent Christine Romans presented the alarming figures:

Today, anywhere from 3,000 to 8,000 illegal aliens will cross the border.

According to the Pew Hispanic Center, more people are now coming here illegally than through legal channels. More than half enter without a high school education, and American public schools educate their children.

The Federation for American Immigration Reform says taxpayers spend $12 billion a year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally. Another $17 billion for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

It is federal law to provide free emergency health care to those here illegally. Congress has set aside a billion taxpayer dollars each year to reimburse all hospitals – a total, administrators complain, is a fraction of their costs.

Meanwhile, employers hire cheap labor with virtually no risk. The Government Accountability Office found only three employers fined in 2004 for illegal hiring, down from 417 in 1999.

At the same time, America’s criminal justice system is bulging with these citizens of other countries. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, 30 percent of federal prisoners are not U.S. citizens. Most are thought to be illegal aliens.

But if the McCain-Kennedy legislation disturbs Dobbs, it surely pleases President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and everyone illegally in the U.S. or planning to come. And, what a coincidence! It was approved just in time for Presidents Bush and Fox to celebrate with Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper at their summit in Cancun, Mexico, March 30-31 – a display of unity fitting to their discussions of union.

According to Dobbs on March 28, Presidente Fox, who has taken credit for the committee legislation, says it resulted from five years of work that began with his inauguration as Mexico’s president. He says it’s one step closer to Mexico’s goal of "legalization for everyone" who works in the United States.

Fox has already indicated that, in addition to immigration reform, he wants numerical numbers on visas lifted, and he wants portable social security benefits for Mexicans working in the U.S. He’s likely to get both concessions – the first from NAFTA, which provides for it – the second from the Bush Administration, which has already signed a social security agreement with Mexico. Congress could block it, but when mobs take to the streets, how many lawmakers will stand against "the new normal?"

American citizens must send their own wake up call. Telephone toll free: Senators 888-355-3588; Congressmen 877-762-8762. Demand that your representatives support the legislation passed by the House of Representatives: HR 4437. It includes strong border enforcement, no amnesty, and no guest worker program.

© 2006 Phyllis Spivey - All Rights Reserved

 

[sinkspur]

But I still say -- put the anchor babies up for adoption to US Citizens and send the illegal lawbreaking birth parents back to their homeland. TAGGED and with tubes tied and a vasectomy.

Congratulations! The competition is fierce, but the judges feel confident in proclaiming you the winner of The Dumbest Post of the Day Award.

A list of fabulous prizes will be forthcoming.

[Clemenza]

Brownback became a fan of illegals ever since he converted to Catholicism and became affiliated with the pro-illegal Opus Dei.

[potlatch]

Today, anywhere from 3,000 to 8,000 illegal aliens will cross the border

They are coming through here in droves, they just caught a horse trailer full of them the otherday!

For every one they catch, just imagine how many get further north. I can't help but think the border guards are getting paid off.

[sinkspur]

I think it's to refresh the congregations of Catholics for the pederast priests.

Did your mother take your drool cup away from you today?

That's the only explanation I can think of for such a braindead post.

[sinkspur]

Brownback became a fan of illegals ever since he converted to Catholicism and became affiliated with the pro-illegal Opus Dei.

So now anybody who supports a balanced approach to immigration is "a fan of illegals"?

This place is losing its collective mind.

[Shuttle Shucker]

The more pressure we keep on Mexico, immigration-wise, the more reformers inside of Mexico can be emboldened and empowered to scale back monopolists' abuses down there which keep our own country flooded with economic refugees. Here's an interesting new thread on new legal progress that finally emerged in Mexico I think as a result of immigration reform's failure:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1611677/posts

We can make a difference for our sake, and their's as well. Isn't it the neighborly thing to do?

[Smartass]

What is being allowed, is absolutely unforgivable?
   

[potlatch]

Mr. "T"

Seem familiar?

[EternalVigilance]

Brownback became a fan of illegals ever since he converted to Catholicism and became affiliated with the pro-illegal Opus Dei.

I've wondered.

It's really too bad. He's done some good work on religious liberties issues internationally, and he's certainly done yoeman's work for the pro-life movement.

But, maybe it's just as well. He may well be too mild-mannered to run for President anyway. He doesn't strike me as much of a communicator.

[Clemenza]

Much like the Wall Street Journal, Brownback is right on practically every issue aside from immigration.

[sinkspur]

But, maybe it's just as well. He may well be too mild-mannered to run for President anyway. He doesn't strike me as much of a communicator.

Yeah. We need a Catholic communicator like Alan Keyes, who disowns his own daughter.

[EternalVigilance]

I hear ya.

[Smartass]

Good Evening Potlatch...
LOL, that pretty much sums me up, white flag and all.   Remember the seven boxes I had left to do, well, their not done.   I'm so sick of them, I'm going to let it rest for a few weeks.

[EternalVigilance]

Yeah. We need a Catholic communicator like Alan Keyes, who disowns his own daughter.

He never disowned his daughter. You really should get your information from sources other than gay magazines.

[Dionysius]

How about justice for vultures, buzzards and jackals? They do jobs not even Mexicans will do.

[potlatch]

Well if you count the stacks there, it looks to be about 7!! I thought you would get a kick out of it and email it to your friends when they wonder what you are doing, lol.

[rolling_stone]

Well humm how about we just let everybody in the world who wants to come into the USA? Is that just for US citizens or Legal Aliens? Where do we draw the line, 10 million, 20 million 100 million 500 million?

Where is the Justice for the millions who would like to come to the USA but didn't break the law to get here? They should get first crack at any guest worker jobs (if we really need them) not those who broke the law but those who didn't!..start our guest worker program right! Crap amnesty is like giving more welfare money to welfare cheats than to those who don't cheat...

[Smartass]

Well, thank you very much potlatch...many of my friends know what I'm doing and I'm sure will a kick out of the toon too. If you didn't see it, you wouldn't believe the size of the pile.

[trubluolyguy]

U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback

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Once thought of as a possible candidate in 2008, recently nixed those rumors by coming down against America in the illegal immigration debate.

[trubluolyguy]

Congratulations! The competition is fierce, but the judges feel confident in proclaiming you the winner of The Dumbest Post of the Day Award.

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Spoken like a true FROBL.

[sinkspur]

Did you read the winning post?

The idiot was actually serious about taking children away from their parents and putting them up for adoption.

I don't care who you are, that's pretty dumb.

[sinkspur]

Sheesh! I just noticed you're one of those "September, 2004" signups.

A DU troll, or a Kerry supporter, who's been laying low waiting for a chance to undermine Republicans and Bush.

I'll be watching......

[trubluolyguy]

I'll be watching......

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I'll remember to tremble with fear.


Maybe.

[trubluolyguy]

I don't care who you are, that's pretty dumb.

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Personally, I'd deport the kids too. If they are US citizens, they can return when they turn 18.

[CowboyJay]

"Brownback joined Democrats"

Nuf said.

[CowboyJay]

"So now anybody who supports a balanced approach to immigration is "a fan of illegals"?"

A balanced approach is sending them home peacefully. A comprimise is building only 700 miles of barrier. Amnesty is surrender of our right to self-governance, our right to expatriation, and our sovereign soil to foreign invaders.