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The Myth of 'The Boy Crisis'
Washington Post ^ | Sunday, April 9, 2006 | Caryl Rivers and Rosalind Chait Barnett

Posted on 04/08/2006 3:24:16 PM PDT by palmer

It was the early 1900s, and boys were supposedly in crisis. In monthly magazines, ladies' journals and books, urgent polemics appeared, warning that young men were spending too much time in school with female teachers and that the constant interaction with women was robbing them of their manhood...

Now the cry has been raised again: We're losing our boys. The media have been hyping America's new "boy crisis" in magazine cover stories, a PBS documentary and countless newspaper articles...

The boy crisis we're hearing about is largely a manufactured one, the product of both a backlash against the women's movement and the media's penchant for continuously churning out news about the latest dire threat to the nation...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: boycrazy; brainwashing; feminism; indoctrination; liberals; manhaters; manhatingdykes; mediabias; metrosexuals; nownags; pc; penisenvy; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; savethemales
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The authors present some data that the boy crisis doesn't really exist except for blacks and claim that gender-based approaches are just trendy fads.
1 posted on 04/08/2006 3:24:16 PM PDT by palmer
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To: palmer
He urged young men to "avoid books and in fact avoid all artificial learning, for the forefathers put America on the right path by learning completely from natural experience."

I thought the forefathers were highly educated, given their time.

2 posted on 04/08/2006 3:26:34 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: palmer

Next up, Mexicans telling us there is no illegal immigration crisis and Muhammad Al-Jihadi explaining how Islam is a religion of peace.


3 posted on 04/08/2006 3:26:35 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A nation that cannot or will not control its borders is not a nation at all)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I thought the forefathers were highly educated, given their time.

They were highly educated for OUR time, aside from the subjects that didn't exist in their day.

4 posted on 04/08/2006 3:29:35 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT)
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To: Tax-chick
They were highly educated for OUR time, aside from the subjects that didn't exist in their day.

Are you saying that John Adams and James Madison did not understand deconstructionist anthropology and never took gender studies or Whiteness as a Social Construct? It's a wonder they could go to the bathroom in the morning.

5 posted on 04/08/2006 3:36:39 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: palmer
The boy crisis we're hearing about is largely a manufactured one,

But the "women's movement" is "real."

the product of ... the media's penchant for continuously churning out news about the latest dire threat to the nation...

A proclivity which is valuable enough, when it can be manipulated by YOUR side.

6 posted on 04/08/2006 3:40:30 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: palmer

She has got to be ignoring something...because anyone who has worked at a kindergarten screening, special education classroom, or watched medicine be dispensed in the nurse's office - will be able to tell you there is, indeed, a boy crisis.


7 posted on 04/08/2006 3:41:28 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: ModelBreaker
One of the authors seems to specialize in that kind of "science": Rosalind Chait Barnett, Ph.D. | Papers The other is "considered an expert on the Kennedy family": Caryl Rivers, Professor of Journalism
8 posted on 04/08/2006 3:43:53 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer

Here is some info, on the two authors.


Professor Rivers is the author of many books, including Slick Spins and Fractured Facts: How Cultural Myths Distort the News; Indecent Behavior; a collaboration with Rosalind Barnett on She Works, He Works: How Two Income Families are Happy, Healthy and Thriving, and her latest book, Camelot, a novel set in the Kennedy admistration. Her television drama A Matter of Principal won a Gabriel Award as one of the best television dramas of the year. Professor Rivers contributes regularly to the Boston Globe, Los Angeles Times, Philadelphia Inquirer, Newsday, and other major U.S. newspapers. She is a frequent public affairs panelist on Boston television stations and is considered an expert on the Kennedy family.



Stories by Rosalind Chait Barnett


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9 posted on 04/08/2006 3:44:28 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: palmer

Feminists are women without men.


10 posted on 04/08/2006 3:45:32 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Nick Danger

Ping.


11 posted on 04/08/2006 3:47:11 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: IronJack
A proclivity which is valuable enough, when it can be manipulated by YOUR side.

Barnett, R. C. (2005). Ageism and sexism in the workplace. A double whammy for older women. Generations, 29, 25-30.

12 posted on 04/08/2006 3:47:17 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer

Pure unadulterated BS.

Ask the mothers of sons who have had to deal with these witches over the past decades. They have a deep-seated need to demonstrate their superiority and hatred for the masculine.

Fortunately, my husband and I managed to raise truly nice men who are unabashedly MEN.


13 posted on 04/08/2006 3:49:05 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: ansel12

Thanks for the info, I can't imagine two more biased persons to write about this issue.


14 posted on 04/08/2006 3:50:52 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Scotswife
There is a big problem with the way we are educating our boys. Enrollment in colleges by women is gradually surpassing men. We are from pre-school on, trying to emasculate our boys. I once did a long term sub job as a nursery school teacher. As in most nursery schools , there were "learning centers" that the children could choose to play in. The girls were contentedly rocking and feeding baby dolls in the house center. The boys were in the block section making guns out of LEGOS and aiming at each other. The other adult in the room immediately chastised the boys and said they could not do that. I asked her why they couldn't do that. All boys do that. She said it would "lead to violence when they grew up" I said if that was the case, then they better get rid of the baby dolls because they could lead to teen pregnancy!
15 posted on 04/08/2006 3:54:53 PM PDT by flib
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To: OpusatFR

Not to mention their hatred for religion, tradition, culture, and free enterprise.


16 posted on 04/08/2006 3:55:03 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer

The authors state the problem is a backlash against the womens movement. The problem is the result of the womens movement.
I noticed that the authors didn't touch upon the fact that males living with their parents past high school and college into their 30's and 40's(if not their entire lives) is up 100% in last 20 years.


17 posted on 04/08/2006 3:56:26 PM PDT by oneofmany (Slaying the Fifth Column with the Truth as my sword.)
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To: flib

haha, good reasoning. Schools try to turn little boys into pansies and wussies from the day they get their hands on them.
Not my (five) young men!


18 posted on 04/08/2006 3:59:55 PM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: palmer

School is for sissies.


19 posted on 04/08/2006 4:01:53 PM PDT by Huck (REINTRODUCE THE REID IMMIGRATION BILL!!!)
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To: flib
Enrollment in colleges by women is gradually surpassing men.

Is that really a big deal, though? As the article said, most of the gap is between black men and women; between whites it is only 49/51. And the gap could be just as much about more women going to school than fewer men going to school. Most of the more lucrative jobs that don't require a college education are so-called men's jobs- contruction, the trades, military, etc. In addition, the age of marriage has increased significantly, from 20 for brides in 1960 to almost 26 today. That means women need a career in order to support themselves before, and most of the time after marriage.

20 posted on 04/08/2006 4:02:39 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: LWalk18
Is that really a big deal, though?

It's a symptom. Regardless of the cause, boys are becoming less motivated to continue their education in general. white boys are the only demographic group whose high school dropout rate has risen since 2000 (from Where The Boys Aren't)

21 posted on 04/08/2006 4:10:03 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer
Right, of course there isn't a problem. The United States accounts for approximately 90 percent of total world manufacture and consumption of ritalin. Most of which is consumed by boys. Why is that? Could it be that we took away their recess? Could it be because we took away their gym class? Could it be because there is so much crap on school walls it diverts attention from the teacher? Or that they are forced to read touchy, feely, girly, non-violent stories that are boring, but PC? Perhaps because text books have so many different types of graphs, multicultural photos, and mini lessons within lessons on their pages that the boys have trouble concentrating on what they are actually supposed to be doing because boys and girls do learn differently? I was a teacher, I know they learn differently. The think, play, process info, communicate differently than girls, just to mention a few.

I will also add that the number of boys in this country growing up without fathers is also helping the crisis.
22 posted on 04/08/2006 4:19:12 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Whoever said prayers don't help after surgery didn't have the Prayer Warriors praying for them!)
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To: LWalk18

>Is that really a big deal, though? As the article said, most of the gap is between black men and women; between whites it is only 49/51.<

You stopped reading to soon.This was according to the NEA.Just a little biased.Most of the Major Liberal Arts Universities are closer to 60% women.The major engineering schools are close to 40% women where they were 10% 20 years ago.I have 2 daughters and I am worried about them finding good men.


23 posted on 04/08/2006 4:23:24 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: ModelBreaker

LOL! They didn't have bathrooms! :-).

So in addition to missing out on Queer Legal Theory, they also didn't know much about plumbing, electronics, or digital signal analysis! However, not many college graduates today know what Aaron Burr, for example, needed to know to get into Princeton at the age of 14.


24 posted on 04/08/2006 4:24:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT)
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To: palmer

Personally I think the government needs to start a program that buys every new-born male child a Mini-14 and 6,000 rounds of ammunition so that they grow up feeling masculine.


25 posted on 04/08/2006 4:24:44 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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To: Blessed

I think if your daughters (I have 3, so I'm concerned, too :-) are good women, they will find good men, as long as they don't put it off too long.


26 posted on 04/08/2006 4:25:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT)
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To: ModelBreaker

Heck, they couldn't even tivo the evening news or format in HTML...


27 posted on 04/08/2006 4:27:24 PM PDT by weegee ("CBS NEWS? Is that show still on?" - freedomson)
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To: Tax-chick
However, not many college graduates today know what Aaron Burr, for example, needed to know to get into Princeton at the age of 14.

I thought that was Doogie Howser, M.D. < /sarc >

28 posted on 04/08/2006 4:29:20 PM PDT by weegee ("CBS NEWS? Is that show still on?" - freedomson)
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To: weegee

:-). Aaron Burr was a moonbat, but he was quite an intellectual, too. He couldn't do corporate income tax accounting, like yours truly, but only because there was no such thing, which was good, actually ...


29 posted on 04/08/2006 4:34:17 PM PDT by Tax-chick
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To: Hardastarboard
a Mini-14 and 6,000 rounds of ammunition

Hard to argue with that although some might say an AR-15.

30 posted on 04/08/2006 4:34:33 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Tax-chick
"They didn't have bathrooms." No but they had these.

The Necessary

31 posted on 04/08/2006 4:41:50 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: palmer

This is probably beside the point, but did they ever finish removing the urinals from the men's rooms in Sweden?


32 posted on 04/08/2006 4:45:40 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush and his surveillance program.)
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To: Old Professer
Feminists are women without men.

Nor do they deserve them/us.


33 posted on 04/08/2006 4:49:13 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Scotswife

What do you expect from someone who can't even spell their name right. "Caryl" as an alternative for "Carol" is a litle close to the whole "women/womyn" thing for me not to wonder about her true motives...


34 posted on 04/08/2006 4:51:50 PM PDT by BamaGirl (The Framers Rule!)
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To: Blessed
Just a little biased.Most of the Major Liberal Arts Universities are closer to 60% women.

I found the numbers for schools according to the 2005 edition of U.S. News and World Report's America's Best Colleges:

1)Harvard- 53M/47F

1)Princeton- 52M/48F

3)Yale- 50M/50F

4)UPenn-50M/50F

5)Duke- 51M/49F

5)MIT- 58M/42F

5)Stanford- 50M/50F

8)CalTech- 67M/33F

9)Columbia- 53M/47F

9) Dartmorth- 51M/49F

11) Northwestern- 47M/53F

So the top ten schools all have either equal numbers of men and women or more men than women, confirming what the report says about men not being missing at the very top schools. You have to getting to the 11th ranked school before you see more women than men. The first national university that I see with 40% men or less is #32 NYU, which is 40M/60F. Compare with some historically black schools:

Howard- 33M/67F

Hampton- 38M/62F

Fisk- 31M/69F

Clark Atlanta- 29M/71F

35 posted on 04/08/2006 4:54:59 PM PDT by LWalk18
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I wonder if boys seem to be falling so much behind because girls are experiencing puberty earlier, thus widening the gap. Boys today seem the same now as they were when I was growing up, but girls have definitely changed. They're now menstruating at 9 years old, from what I've heard. It's like you've got boys and pseudo-women in the same class, so whom is the teacher going to relate better to?


36 posted on 04/08/2006 4:56:41 PM PDT by twippo (Phil Hendrie fan since 12/99)
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To: LWalk18

The conservative Christian college I attended between 98-00 was 70% female.


37 posted on 04/08/2006 4:58:20 PM PDT by twippo (Phil Hendrie fan since 12/99)
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To: Jason_b

I remember that from my last trip to Mount Vernon. (Early 90's). A famous 6-seater, iirc.


38 posted on 04/08/2006 6:24:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Life is too short to drink bad wine." ~ The Captain)
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To: palmer

There are a lot of details that the Washington Post conveniently ignores in publishing this editorial in favor of rabid feminism...

...for instance, in the early 1900s, the divorce rate wasn't north of 50%. Half the children born in America weren't bastards, either.


39 posted on 04/08/2006 6:29:09 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Blessed

"The major engineering schools are close to 40% women where they were 10% 20 years ago."


The subject is a bit more layered than most people seem to think. The reason that the major engineering schools are at 40% today may be BECAUSE they were only 10% 20 yrs ago.

Traditionally what has happened is that medical school or officers school didn't have as many woman as the PC types thought they should so standards were then dumbed down to "correct" the lack. This makes the educational experience less valuable to merit-minded males and the slide begins.

Med schools dumbed down admissions in the early 70's. As PC has filtered down the others have followed.


40 posted on 04/08/2006 6:33:56 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Tax-chick

"..they will find good men, as long as they don't put it off too long."

Bingo.


41 posted on 04/08/2006 6:37:51 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: palmer
> Rosalind Chait Barnett

Written by a woman with two last names. All I needed to know.

42 posted on 04/08/2006 7:07:01 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Tax-chick

Never let common sense and a little fact checking get in the way of the latest crisis management.


43 posted on 04/08/2006 7:58:18 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: palmer
When my son was in 4th grade, his teacher corrected his short story. My son wrote that he dreamed of squirting seagulls with his water pistol. The teacher recommended he blow bubbles at the sea gulls.

We took him out of public schools, and put him in a Christian school where he's encouraged to be masculine. He's 16 now, and enjoys target shooting in our back yard. He placed first in a rifle shooting contest during our Punta Cana vacation last week. He placed 2d in archery, too.
44 posted on 04/08/2006 8:38:38 PM PDT by keats5
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To: Tax-chick
LOL! They didn't have bathrooms! :-).

I wasn't sure anyone would get my little joke--it was pretty obscure. But if you're used to reading the CFR, you probably do obscure pretty well. :)

45 posted on 04/08/2006 9:44:20 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Written by a woman with two last names. All I needed to know.

And then when their kids marry and the other one has a pc last name, they can have kids named Chait-Barnett-Smith-Jones. Catchy, don't you think?

46 posted on 04/08/2006 9:49:13 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: palmer
Why did I know this would be written by more than one woman and no man just by reading the title?

Caryl Rivers is a professor of journalism at Boston University. Rosalind Chait Barnett is a senior scientist at the Women's Studies Research Center at Brandeis University.

How cute. A journalism professor and a "senior scientist" in a "Women's Studies Research Center". Now why doesn't that surprise me?

47 posted on 04/09/2006 12:00:56 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: palmer

btt


48 posted on 04/09/2006 1:36:45 AM PDT by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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To: ModelBreaker

"Are you saying that John Adams and James Madison did not understand deconstructionist anthropology and never took gender studies or Whiteness as a Social Construct? It's a wonder they could go to the bathroom in the morning."

Yea Franklin was so uneducated when he discovered moving charges he mistaken assumed the possitive charges moved. What a retard.


49 posted on 04/09/2006 1:46:04 AM PDT by RHINO369
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To: TalBlack
"The subject is a bit more layered than most people seem to think. The reason that the major engineering schools are at 40% today may be BECAUSE they were only 10% 20 yrs ago.

Traditionally what has happened is that medical school or officers school didn't have as many woman as the PC types thought they should so standards were then dumbed down to "correct" the lack. This makes the educational experience less valuable to merit-minded males and the slide begins."

Your right about why it happened but wrong about how it happened. They don't dumb down the standard for everyone, just for women. I go to the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign (the main campus) and we have a very well respected engineering college. We'll the average male engineering student was in the top 5% of their high school graduating class and high (over 30) ACT score. A girl I know in the engineering college, got a scholarship even though she was only the top 15% and 27 ACT. Not only would a male not get in with those scores they wouldn't get a penny in scholarship.

Its affirmative action, even though girls do better in high school, they get an advantage. The reason girls don't go into math and science because on average they aren't interested. As I've gone on in my curriculum the number of girls in my classes shrinks every semester, because many find its not for them and go into another field.
50 posted on 04/09/2006 1:57:59 AM PDT by RHINO369
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