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1997 Document: Orders To Remove All Information Related To WMD From Computers (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website on Iraqi Pre-war documents ^ | April 9 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 04/09/2006 10:19:52 AM PDT by jveritas

Pages 99 to129 of document CMPC-2003-00013038 dated in March 1997, many years after Saddam was supposed to fully comply with the UN resolutions to disarm his WMD and reveal everything to the UN inspectors, include many correspondences from the Iraqi intelligence service asking their employees not to store any information related to WMD and remove any information they have regarding WMD from their computers and records. This is yet another document that shows how Saddam Regime was doing all their efforts to hide their WMD programs or any information relate to it from the UN inspectors, a clear sign that this regime never really complied and they always wanted to keep their WMD programs and production.

Beginning of Translation of Page 107:

Subject: Pledge

I am the signatory below, I pledge not to store any information related to the Prohibited Weapons on any computer that we have installed and evacuate the related numbered magnetic discs to outside the location. And for this I sign

Signature

Name: Issam Shaker

Position: Director of Administration in the Fourth Directory

Directory: The Forth Directory

Date: 26/3/1997

End of translation of Page 107

In the document, there are many letters with the same text as in page 107 signed by other employees of the Iraqi intelligence service.

Beginning of the Translation of Page 115:

A visit was made to the Computer Center of the Third Directory Storage and search it and inform the person who is directly in charge of it to remove all the information related to the Prohibited Matters and what is related to the committees of inspection and industrialization and that he will be held responsible for this.

Signature

29/3/1997

End of translation of Page 115

In the document, there are many letters with the same text as in page 115 that inform different departments in the Iraqi intelligence service to remove all the information related to WMD.


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To: ScaniaBoy; jveritas; Grampa Dave; Allegra; Eagle Eye
Key phrase from the verbiage in post #98.:

Radwaniya is a neighborhood located in the district of Al Rasheed.

And Saddam had a palace there, which likely had underground structures....wonder if any have been found.there..????

101 posted on 04/09/2006 11:57:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas

Again thanks for another translation...you're the best ;o)


102 posted on 04/09/2006 12:04:49 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: jveritas

I hope you're wrting a book! This all needs to be documented and you may as well make a buck in the process. Thanks for your service to our country.


103 posted on 04/09/2006 12:16:12 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: jveritas

This dovetails with ISGZ-2004-028947 http://rayrobison.typepad.com/ray_robison/2006/03/saddam_document.html
which sammi did a full translation of that is a scrub for WMD information.


104 posted on 04/09/2006 12:27:23 PM PDT by RayRobisonblog
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To: RayRobisonblog

Thanks for the link....


105 posted on 04/09/2006 12:35:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas

My guess is that it might be something like this little number if it was a mainframe and a removable disk pack. Back in The Day I used to lock these in a big old safe on a daily basis for the same reason Saddam's boys did.

106 posted on 04/09/2006 12:38:21 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: jveritas

bump


107 posted on 04/09/2006 12:38:46 PM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: eyespysomething

bttt!


108 posted on 04/09/2006 1:09:54 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: jveritas
I pledge not to store any information related to the Prohibited Weapons on any computer

well, SNL will have a blast with this:

I have NO information about any Prohibited Weapons. Nope! Not here -- no Prohibited Weapons information here! Absolutely none!

109 posted on 04/09/2006 1:21:14 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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To: sirchtruth; Grampa Dave; FairOpinion; Peach

Indeed--and that's putting it politely. Some of us have taken a good deal of heat even from Freepers when we insisted that there were, in fact, WMD in Iraq. Moreover, even beyond these wonderful translations, a good deal of WMD were, in fact, FOUND, but the press coverage for these was somewhere between lacking and nonexistant.


110 posted on 04/09/2006 1:30:34 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: jveritas

"I am not a computer expert, but what does these magnetic discs mean. Are those the same type big discs that we used to see many years ago in the IT departments here in the US. Please keep in mind that the Iraqi in 1997 had an old computer system and may have not have more modern systems until late 2001, 2002."

JV, these could be anything from the old Winchester discpacs you're probably thinking about to floppies or zip disks, or any other sort of removeable media. Or even all the above, depending on which directorates got the most recent upgrades. This is good work you're doing! Thank you, and keep it up!


111 posted on 04/09/2006 1:49:18 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Billthedrill

Yep, these are the discs.


112 posted on 04/09/2006 2:31:06 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: RayRobisonblog

Agreed 100%. Both documents are from March 1997.


113 posted on 04/09/2006 2:35:01 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Thank you! May God bless you for your efforts.


114 posted on 04/09/2006 2:36:14 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: AprilfromTexas

God Bless you too and God Bless our troops.


115 posted on 04/09/2006 2:47:46 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Ping to myself.


116 posted on 04/09/2006 2:48:34 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: jveritas
Once again, All Hail jveritas!


117 posted on 04/09/2006 3:48:34 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: jveritas

I can't wait to see all the documents ordering the destruction of the WMD material! - Serious sarcasm.


118 posted on 04/09/2006 4:16:00 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: jveritas

Thank you so much, jveritas. I've said before and I'll say again that these translations should be published in book form.


119 posted on 04/09/2006 4:18:39 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly

LOL...


120 posted on 04/09/2006 4:28:02 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: COEXERJ145

ROTFLMAO. Where are you getting these graphics?


121 posted on 04/09/2006 4:28:58 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

I've just collected them from various places. Some have been posted on FR by other members. Others come from different message boards where I also post.


122 posted on 04/09/2006 4:31:52 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: jveritas

Thank you so much. Liberals can eat dirt.


123 posted on 04/09/2006 4:38:08 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: MonroeDNA; mware; jveritas

You both say you will make FReeper of the Year nominations.

May I suggest a resolution for unanimous consent.


124 posted on 04/09/2006 5:40:28 PM PDT by NerdDad
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To: jveritas; onyx
I pledge not to store any information related to the Prohibited Weapons on any computer that we have installed and evacuate the related numbered magnetic discs to outside the location. And for this I sign

THE. Not "any", not "possible", but THE PROHIBITED WEAPONS.

Bump jveritas! Thanks for your efforts and thanks for the ping onyx.

125 posted on 04/09/2006 5:41:12 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Censure Feingold!!)
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To: jveritas

Does anyone know what is meant by the Third Directory and the Fourth Directory? I presume this has something to do with the Iraq intelligence service, but are the specific duties attached to each?

Thanks.


126 posted on 04/09/2006 5:50:06 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
That is correct. The Saddam Iraqi intelligence had different directories and each has certain functions and responsibilities. I will try to find out if there is a list somewhere stating the functions of each directory or directorate.
127 posted on 04/09/2006 5:53:40 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Peach

"Wow! As I said on another thread, maybe I'm making a mistake sending these translations to the media and instead should be focusing on the Pentagon spokesman, Scott McClellan and others."

I don't think it is a mistake to send these to the media. It would be helpful to send them to the spokesmen for the Administration too. If you have e-mail addys, or can point me in the right direction, I will forward on to those in the Administration.


128 posted on 04/09/2006 5:54:13 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: eyespysomething

Please add me to the ping list.


129 posted on 04/09/2006 5:56:19 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: jveritas

"I am not a computer expert, but what does these magnetic discs mean. Are those the same type big discs that we used to see many years ago in the IT departments here in the US. Please keep in mind that the Iraqi in 1997 had an old computer system and may have not have more modern systems until late 2001, 2002."

Probably or a smaller, more effecient equivalent.


130 posted on 04/09/2006 5:59:14 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom

I have sent hard mail to the WH because they couldn't possibly read all their e-mail. Also, some of my hard mail has included links (which are printed in the letter) and I know that some e-mail accounts are set up not to receive links from certain sites.


131 posted on 04/09/2006 6:04:29 PM PDT by Peach
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To: jrooney

I agree with you on most everything here. I do not think the MSM will report on these documents without being pushed and they may not report then. I do think, however that we can circumvent the MSM if we need to. That is not giving up. Either on this issue, nor on the overall war on terror.

I am wondering if it would be helpful to send these documents to small town newspapers. We might get better response that way, but I don't know. I would think it would be worth a shot either way.


132 posted on 04/09/2006 6:10:35 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: jveritas

Bump. jveritas, America owes you big time for all you're doing!


133 posted on 04/09/2006 6:12:56 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I'm kind of a parasite." Noam Chomsky)
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To: jveritas

"That is correct. The Saddam Iraqi intelligence had different directories and each has certain functions and responsibilities. I will try to find out if there is a list somewhere stating the functions of each directory or directorate."

Thanks. I don't know if that will tell us more or not.


134 posted on 04/09/2006 6:58:41 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

I owe America everything I have.


135 posted on 04/09/2006 7:05:28 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom

I agree. If each one of us took the time over the next 6 months to educate the public about these documents and their startling translations, we could not only keep majorities in the House and the Senate but we may increase seats for the GOP. Make no mistake, if we lose either one or both, these dems will attempt to impeach Bush, they will undermine our war effort even more and may cause the withdrawal of our troops from Iraq. God help us if that occurs.

Our children are counting on us to win this war. We all need to stand up and be counted. We can not sit back and think someone will do it for us, like the administration or the RNC because they may not. If we do not educate the public and the scenarios I outlined above occur, we will have no to blame but ourselves and the damage will be done.

I am prepared to take this fight to them alone if need be because I love the freedoms we have and I do not want my children to suffer at the hands of terrorism.

I tell people I talk to get mad at the MSM and the dems for this ultimate betrayal for political purposes. The MSM and dem leadership know they are intenionally lying, and they think we are stupid sheep whom they can manipulate. Not me. They can kiss my ***!

Stand tall folks and make noise! Be heard. I believe in jveritas and the truth.


136 posted on 04/09/2006 7:14:19 PM PDT by jrooney (Time to STAND TALL!)
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To: All

Jveritas always makes me smile :) Keep up the great work and thanks, as always.


137 posted on 04/09/2006 7:15:28 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"-Samuel Johnson to the Dems of today.)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ziggy_dlo; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; ..
Pages 99 to129 of document CMPC-2003-00013038 dated in March 1997, many years after Saddam was supposed to fully comply with the UN resolutions to disarm his WMD and reveal everything to the UN inspectors, include many correspondences from the Iraqi intelligence service asking their employees not to store any information related to WMD and remove any information they have regarding WMD from their computers and records. This is yet another document that shows how Saddam Regime was doing all their efforts to hide their WMD programs or any information relate to it from the UN inspectors, a clear sign that this regime never really complied and they always wanted to keep their WMD programs and production.
138 posted on 04/09/2006 7:29:32 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: All

Standing tall is no always easy. It would be easier for all of us to just go about our everyday lives and do nothing.

Remember the outcome of doing nothing and letting the truth of these documents languish for only a few to see and understand their contents can have a devastating effect.

DO WE WANT TO BE THE NEXT ABLE DANGER THAT THE DEMS CAN HIDE IN THE CLOSET? I say no!! The dems said where is the documents for able danger? Well, we have documents and I will show them these documents, so they can not deny what is in them.

I am working on something to help organize a grassroots effort to get this information out. I will let you all know when it is available.


139 posted on 04/09/2006 7:32:46 PM PDT by jrooney (Time to STAND TALL!)
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To: jrooney

Thanks for your thoughts. I am going to see if I can find some small town papers to send this to. I will see if I can start some commotion in rural USA. The more we get the word out, the more pressure we can put on the MSM and they will have to either report on this, or lose their business, as well as, any credibility they may have left. They don't have any credibility with me and many freepers, but they still have some with others. Time to go to work on this.


140 posted on 04/09/2006 7:56:27 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom

Thank you. God Speed.


141 posted on 04/09/2006 7:59:53 PM PDT by jrooney (Time to STAND TALL!)
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To: jrooney
"I am working on something to help organize a grassroots effort to get this information out. I will let you all know when it is available."

That will be great. Be sure to have us all pinged.

143 posted on 04/09/2006 8:19:50 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Remember the threads back when we went into Iraq? There was one specific thread I remember about a scientist that had some equipment buried in his yard and disks and files in his home. That article said the scientist and others were told to keep that data in their homes.

So I bet those hard drive disks were removable. Similar idea to zip disk drives.


144 posted on 04/09/2006 8:36:23 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: jveritas
My apologies that I don't know your opinions, etc. Do you have any thoughts about the "Anthrax" attack?

It has always appeared to be state sponsored to me; and I sometimes feel almost alone in having any interest. Any thoughts?

145 posted on 04/09/2006 8:40:17 PM PDT by Nova
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To: Nova
It is very possible that the Anthrax attacks in the US were state sponsored terrorism and it is possible that it came from Iraq. I hope that we will find the truth in one of these millions of documents. However I need to point out that in my reading of one document form the Iraqi health ministry where there are many correspondences dated between October 2001 and January 2002 on how to take precautions against Anthrax.
146 posted on 04/09/2006 8:48:06 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom

Thank you very much for doing this. Let us spread the truth.


147 posted on 04/09/2006 8:50:25 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: All; Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/898486/posts
Iraqi researchers were ordered to destroy experiments ahead of U.N. searches

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Six Iraqi scientists working at different Baghdad research institutions were ordered to destroy some bacteria and equipment and hide more in their homes before visits from U.N. weapons inspectors in the months leading up to the war, the scientists told The Associated Press.

In separate interviews, all of the scientists said they were involved in civilian research projects and none knew of any programs for weapons of mass destruction. It was not clear why their materials, ostensibly for nonmilitary research, were ordered destroyed.

But their accounts indicate the government of Saddam Hussein may have had advance knowledge of at least some of the inspectors' visits, as the United States suspected, and that the former Iraqi regime was deeply concerned about any material that could raise the suspicion of U.N. experts.

"An hour or two before the inspectors came to the university, I got my orders from the chairman," said a biochemistry professor at Saddam University for Science and Engineering.

"The order was to hide anything that might make the inspectors suspicious. Any bacterium, any fungus. I destroyed seven petri dishes in the autoclave and I put the others in the trunk of my car."

He said the petri dishes held Staphylococcus and E. coli bacteria and a fungus that can cause severe skin problems -- all commonly used for experiments.

The scientist and several others would only speak on condition of anonymity.

While U.S. troops are firmly in control of the Iraqi capital, university officials, some of them linked by blood to Saddam, remain in their academic positions and scientists fear they could be fired if they are discovered providing information that slights their bosses.

Saddam University's assistant dean, Ameer Abbas Ameer, said inspectors visited his university three times, checking the chemistry, biology and physics departments. He denied ordering professors and researchers to destroy or hide materials.

"The inspectors never found anything because there wasn't anything to find," he said. "They were even joking about it when they were here. They were never serious. You don't search for weapons of mass destruction under the carpet."

But the professor and other scientists said orders came from Ameer's office, through the department chairman, to hide and destroy materials when the inspectors were on their way.

"The chairman told us not to answer questions from any inspectors, to go to the cafeteria and stay there until they left," the professor said. "They were afraid. What they were afraid of, I don't know."

President Bush claimed during his State of the Union address that Iraqi spies had penetrated the U.N. inspections. While some inspectors privately suspect as much, none of the inspection teams found any firm evidence to support the president's claim.

"Clearly we were well aware that the Iraqis were trying to figure out our inspection plans and we took many practicable precautions against that," said Ewen Buchanan, spokesman for the U.N. inspectors. He said information was handled on a "need to know" basis and precautions included "silent briefings" between inspectors to elude any listening devices the Iraqis may have placed at U.N. offices in Baghdad.

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148 posted on 04/09/2006 8:52:40 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Spunky; jrooney

I am very glad that you are doing this jr; thank you very much.


149 posted on 04/09/2006 8:52:40 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
"It is very possible that the Anthrax attacks in the US were state sponsored terrorism and it is possible that it came from Iraq."

Thanks. This seems very important to me. I hope you can find something.

And Again, Much Thanks.

150 posted on 04/09/2006 8:57:08 PM PDT by Nova
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