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Christian warns of religious right's rise
The Age ^ | 10 April 2006 | Barney Zwartz

Posted on 04/09/2006 5:35:41 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

AUSTRALIA must beware the rise of the "religious right" in politics, American Christian activist Jim Wallis has told a Melbourne audience.

Mr Wallis said religious faith would be the most influential force in Australian politics for the next decade, but the country was in danger of allowing the religious right to dominate.

"It is clear from … the abortion debate and the rise of Family First that Australia, like many countries, is witnessing a new religious force that could change the political landscape," he said.

Mr Wallis is in Melbourne to launch the Australian edition of his book God's Politics: Why the American Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn't Get It.

"The other danger is the way Australia has so often followed in lock-step with some of America's worst mistakes and policies, defying the world on Iraq or Kyoto or torture," he told The Age. "This needs to be challenged, and it's better challenged by friends."

Mr Wallis spoke about tackling poverty at the Town Hall yesterday for the Micah Challenge, the Christian arm of the Make Poverty History campaign. "People of faith can change the nation — they've done it in the past," he said.

A spokeswoman for Family First senator Steve Fielding said Family First was not a Christian party. Brigadier Jim Wallace, founder of the Australian Christian Lobby, said he had read the first few chapters of Mr Wallis' book and agreed with everything. "Where he's coming from is exactly where the Christian Lobby tries to be," he said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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Who is this joker?
1 posted on 04/09/2006 5:35:43 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

Does it appear to anyone else that Jim Wallis is not actually religious at all but rather just puts on a religious guise for the political purpose of opposing religion in public life?


2 posted on 04/09/2006 5:36:59 PM PDT by Battleofbritain
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Make Poverty History campaign"

A lefty it would seem -- phony Christian probably.

3 posted on 04/09/2006 5:38:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Battleofbritain
"The other danger is the way Australia has so often followed in lock-step with some of America's worst mistakes and policies, defying the world on Iraq or Kyoto or torture," he told The Age. "This needs to be challenged, and it's better challenged by friends."

Hmm... I'll take "God-less atheists in Christian clothing" for $500, Alex.

4 posted on 04/09/2006 5:38:33 PM PDT by thoughtomator (I just paid my taxes, and boy does my butt hurt)
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To: Aussie Dasher
American Christian activist Jim Wallis

He's an awful man. He was hired on by the dems to give them some credibility in the area of religion and to help them "talk the talk." He's so National Council of Churches. He was not going over well on the talk shows, so I see he has moved on to other venues.

5 posted on 04/09/2006 5:39:10 PM PDT by Bahbah (Harry Reid is a Liar;Ted Kennedy is a BIG FAT Liar: edited by tiredoflaundry)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Amazingly there's nothing whatsoever wrong with the "religious right" taking over Australia, or anywhere else for that matter.

Unlike Mr. Wallis' favorites, the fanatics in AlQaida, no member of the so-called "religious right" has bombed a building full of innocent civilians in a coons age.

6 posted on 04/09/2006 5:39:16 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Battleofbritain

Well good, if hillary wins in 2008 weve got a sanctuary! (Ireland, Italy, Australia)


7 posted on 04/09/2006 5:39:24 PM PDT by HHKrepublican_2 (www.Rogers2006.com)
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To: Aussie Dasher

>>Jim Wallis is editor and founder of the liberal evangelical magazine Sojourners, the author of The Soul of Politics, and the head of "Call to Renewal," a faith-based anti-poverty organization.<<

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/interviews/wallis.html


>>Yes, there is, according to Jim Wallis, editor of the leftish religious magazine Sojourners, whose new book, God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It, argues that Democrats, if they ever want to win an election, must learn how to talk about moral values, indeed, to talk the language of moral values, in a way that remains true to the party’s principles<<

http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2005/03/gods_politics_jim_wallis.html


8 posted on 04/09/2006 5:39:41 PM PDT by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

What is wrong with the religious right. Nothing. I can't understand why they should be feared?


9 posted on 04/09/2006 5:39:55 PM PDT by Frank_N_Sense (Vincente Fox, Al Sharpton and Jaques Chirac's DNA stains are on Hillary's blue dress.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

He sounds like a hippie.


10 posted on 04/09/2006 5:39:59 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Aussie Dasher

Reminds me of the so-called "Crunchy Conservatives" I read about here not too many weeks ago. And many Freepers were extolling the virtues of such nonsense.

I make it a personal rule to always approach cautiously those "Christians" who proclaim the dangers of Christianity. Sounds like a wolf in sheep's clothing to me.


11 posted on 04/09/2006 5:40:52 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Bahbah

I suspected as much!


12 posted on 04/09/2006 5:40:52 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Mr. Wallis sounds most interested in producing wealthy and healthy citizens of hell.


13 posted on 04/09/2006 5:41:19 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: BenLurkin

Not everyone who says they are Christian on the right side of the political spectrum are true Christians either. Some advocate a theocracy. Some hate blacks. Some hate Latinos. It will matter more on The Day what you DID rather than who you VOTED for.


14 posted on 04/09/2006 5:43:32 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Aussie Dasher

This idiot was here in Columbus, Ohio a week ago trying to support the leftist state candidates for Governor and called our conservative Republican candidate Ken Blackwell a "religious rightist" determined to screw over "the oppressed."


16 posted on 04/09/2006 5:44:31 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: TonyRo76

Big Ping!! This idiot was going after Blackwell last week at the Riffe Center.


17 posted on 04/09/2006 5:46:03 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Jim Wallis is a leftist Liberation Theologian who wants a Socialist Theocracy.


18 posted on 04/09/2006 5:48:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Aussie Dasher

He's a zealot for the Christian liberals. They have liberals and conservatives just like we do in politics. He's been around for a long time. I believe he graduated from Trinity Seminary in suburban Chicago and I don't think he has ever pastored a church but has worked for liberal social justice stuff.The predecesor to Sojourners was birthed when he as in Chicago. The left will use him because he is right in the fact that they do not how to discuss moral issues. But if he has his way he will see that they learn well.Ann Coulter's new book that's posted elsewhere on here may be of help.


19 posted on 04/09/2006 5:56:57 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Aussie Dasher
"God's Politics: An Interview With Jim Wallis...The Right has been allowed to hijack faith and moral values, argues the editor of Sojourners. It's high time the Democrats got religion."

Mother Jones interview here: http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2005/03/gods_politics_jim_wallis.html
20 posted on 04/09/2006 5:57:20 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

You remember that famous footage of krinton laughing, then crying at the Ron Brown funeral when he spotted the cameras? Well, he was walking and yukking it up with Tony Campollo who is another leftist, social liberation "evangelical" whose sole function is to give RAT's religious cover. Wallis is another apostle of this apostate cult.


21 posted on 04/09/2006 6:00:56 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: Windsong
Some advocate a theocracy.

I think this is a liberal bogeyman. I very much doubt that one in a million Christians in this country support a "theocracy".

22 posted on 04/09/2006 6:11:38 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Aussie Dasher

Christian my ass.


24 posted on 04/09/2006 6:31:58 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Aussie Dasher
He's trying to make money off of the American left's attempt to take "Jesus" away from conservatives. "Jesus is for welfare." "Jesus is against war". "Jesus wants the government to take care of everyone." "Jesus never said anything about homosexuality or abortion." blah blah blah. Get the idea?
25 posted on 04/09/2006 6:32:51 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: Aussie Dasher

And he's not doing very well over here so you get to put up with him for a while. Sorry. :-)


26 posted on 04/09/2006 6:34:18 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: Aussie Dasher

Phoop on this dweeb!


27 posted on 04/09/2006 6:34:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Life is too short to drink bad wine." ~ The Captain)
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To: Aussie Dasher; Oztrich Boy

Basically Jim Wallis is the antithesis of South Park conservatives or Ayn Rand objectivists. I can respect that he opposes abortions and wants to bar legalization of gay marriage, but everything else he promotes are standard Bob Brown stuff.

You may ask what the Freeper Oztrich Boy believes. Flip his beliefs around issue by issue and you will get a picture of this Wallis guy's stance.

Ping!


28 posted on 04/09/2006 6:35:09 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Jim Wallis is Antichristic.


29 posted on 04/09/2006 6:36:00 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: TonyRo76

Wallis is like Barry Lynn, head of Americans United. They make a lot more pimping for the left than they would as ministers.


30 posted on 04/09/2006 6:36:28 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: Aussie Dasher

More fun with Jim "Liberation Theology" Wallis, I see...


31 posted on 04/09/2006 6:37:27 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Wallis is basically a Marxist who pretends to be a Christian (he wrote in an article called "Liberation and Conformity" in Mission Truth in 1979 that he hoped "more Christians will come to see the world through Marxist eyes"). He's publisher of the left-wing theological journal Sojourners--linked to Richard Barnet of the Institute for Policy Studies, a leading Marxist think tank in the US--and a coalition called the Call to Renewal created to counter the influence of conservative Christians in the US. I posted a bit on his Call to Renewal on some earlier threads, which I'll repost here for reference:

Carter warns against fundamentalists

Mark Tooley, "Religious Left Coalitions"

Two relatively new religious coalitions are combating the burgeoning influence of Christian conservatives. The Interfaith Alliance, created in 1994, is largely a mishmash of fading, old-line Religious Left fixtures whose predictable denunciations of Ralph Reed and Pat Robertson have failed to attract sustained attention or new allies. But the Call to Renewal, which Sojourners publisher Jim Wallis helped create last year, has been considerably more successful in portraying itself as a viable alternative to the Christian Right.

SNIP

Of the Call's 100 prominent endorsers, eighteen are Roman Catholic, including Bishops Thomas Gumbleton of Detroit; Raymond Lucker of New Ulm, Minnesota; LeRoy Matthiesen of Amarillo, Texas; Francis Murphy of Baltimore; Peter Rosazza of Hartford, Connecticut; Walter Sullivan of Richmond, Virginia; and, Rembert Weakland of Milwaukee. Other Catholics are Gerald Brown of the Catholic Conference of Major Superiors of Men's Institutes, Margaret Cafferty and Joan Chittister of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, Marie Dennis of Maryknoll Justice and Peace, J. Bryan Hehir of the Harvard Center for International Affairs, and Carlotta Ullmer of the Sisters of St. Francis of the Holy Cross. Catholic conservatives will not be surprised by these endorsers, but media coverage has contrasted high-level Catholic support for the Call to harsh criticism of the Christian Coalition by some Catholic leaders.

SNIP

Cafferty was joined by Wallis and other Call founders, including Baptist evangelist Tony Campolo, who seemed to summarize the Call's objective when he said, "We want to change the purpose of evangelism. . . Political issues are at the heart of the Christian faith. We thank them [the Religious Right] for making America aware that politics is religious." Campolo, whom President Clinton has cited as one of his ten most admired preachers, pledged that the Call's "progressive evangelical caucus" would "avoid Left and Right" while advocating community programs to battle "gay-bashing, racism, and poverty." He said they would seek "reconciliation and not polarization."

SNIP

"The National Council of Churches has gotten a warm reception from the Clinton administration. I welcome it," said Granberg-Michaelson. "Clinton is a Bible-believing Baptist who has been vilified by fellow Christians. . .

32 posted on 04/09/2006 6:41:02 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Aussie Dasher

Jim Wallis

http://tinyurl.com/q4efy



Wallis was a founder of Sojourners - Christians for justice and peace - more than 30 years ago and continues to serve as the editor of Sojourners magazine


Wallis is part of evangelicalism's left wing, which finds acceptance in such places as Regent College at the University of BC, the Mennonite Central Committee, Atlantic Baptist University and, to a lesser extent, Trinity Western University.


******



The Right has been allowed to hijack faith and moral values, argues the editor of Sojourners. It's high time the Democrats got religion.


http://tinyurl.com/ljtnx



Jim Wallis, editor of the leftish religious magazine Sojourners, whose new book, God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It, argues that Democrats, if they ever want to win an election, must learn how to talk about moral values, indeed, to talk the language of moral values, in a way that remains true to the party’s principles.


33 posted on 04/09/2006 6:42:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Aussie Dasher

Meet the "new faith adviser" for Democrats


Jim Wallis is a Christian leader for social change. He is a speaker, author, activist, and international commentator on ethics and public life. Wallis was a founder of Sojourners - Christians for justice and peace - more than 30 years ago and continues to serve as the editor of Sojourners magazine, covering faith, politics and culture. In 1995, Wallis was instrumental in forming Call to Renewal, a national federation of churches, denominations, and faith-based organizations from across the theological and political spectrum working to overcome poverty.




Wallis also talks about the president's personal faith and how he is putting that faith into action. He worries that after 9/11, the president seemed to turn from being a "self-help Methodist" to a "Messianic American Calvinist speaking of the mission of America, and even of his perhaps divine appointment to be president at a time such as this." Wallis also criticizes the religious language and hymnology used in the president's speeches which is "often misused or often put in a different context and the meaning changed."




Too many evangelical Christians are like affluent, upper-middle class suburban dwellers more than they are like those who love and cherish and follow the Bible.

Now, they think they are. They believe they are. They love the Bible. But they're not paying attention to whole vast areas of biblical teaching that call for economic justice. You can't be evangelical and associate yourself with Jesus and what he says about the poor and just have no other domestic concerns than tax cuts for wealthy people.

I mean, these are good people. But this is not biblical thinking. What's changing -- and it is changing all over the country -- is a new generation of evangelicals are discovering the poor in the Bible.



http://tinyurl.com/zxn9a


34 posted on 04/09/2006 6:47:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Unam Sanctam; Windsong
Absolutely correct.
36 posted on 04/09/2006 6:49:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Aussie Dasher; NZerFromHK; Battleofbritain; BenLurkin; thoughtomator; Bahbah; muawiyah; gondramB; ..
Here's what I find frustrating: back in 1980 or 1981, Jim Wallis' publication, Sojourners Magazine, dedicated a whole issue to the pro-life (anti-abortion) cause. There were about 16 articles against abortion, one after another, and all of them strong.

Wallis got married late in life: he's almost 60, and his two little sons are 2 and 6 years old. I thought that would make him more pro-life: paternal surges of love and protective feelings for babies often transform good men into vocal prolife advocates. It hasn't seemed to happen with him.

In fact, for the past 25 years I have not read or heard of one more instance of the Sojourners crew either writing or speaking out against the killing of children before they are born.

I have heard that he is still sorta kinda against abortion, and also against same-sex marriage, but he never alludes to this except to argue that the Big Bad Right "uses" the abortion and gay issues to maximize political coalitions, money and votes, and for no other reason.

A number of the supporters of Wallis' "Call to Renewal" organization are nominally opposed to abortion, but you only hear about it in the context of bashing conservative prolifers. All the time saying they "hate labels" and seek "reconciliation and not polarization."

I don't know how he can be so cynical. I don't understand it. I had truly expected better from him.

37 posted on 04/09/2006 7:27:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion is mean.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wallis along with Ron Sider and Tony Campolo (sp?) were regarded as heroes of faith by many Asian Christians. I grew up under that environment with Bible teachers and Christian weiters exhorting that they are where Christians should stand in politics.

I have always opposed Communism and supported war against terrorists/rogue states and at one time the teachings by these Christians made me wonder if I were being theologically liberal. This belief accelerated when I came to New Zealand and understand free market works in practice while the welfare state doesn't. Eventually I came in contact with more mainstream American evangelical Christian thinkers and conservative pundits with Catholic backgrounds that made me realize that the Asian Christian stand, rather than free market, is in error.


38 posted on 04/09/2006 8:14:17 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

"Jim Wallis is a leftist Liberation Theologian who wants a Socialist Theocracy."

I concur. I would imagine Wallis wants a society that is just like Maoist China or Brezhnev-era Soviet Union, but with Christianity (preferably Mennonite) rather than atheist Marxism as the state religion, banning all porn, abortions, gay marriages and drugs, and no military as a reflection of their pacifism.


39 posted on 04/09/2006 8:50:36 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: NZerFromHK

http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1833


40 posted on 04/09/2006 9:00:48 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kcvl
You can't be evangelical and associate yourself with Jesus and what he says about the poor and just have no other domestic concerns than tax cuts for wealthy people. I mean, these are good people. But this is not biblical thinking. What's changing -- and it is changing all over the country -- is a new generation of evangelicals are discovering the poor in the Bible.

These lies get tiresome. There's nothing compassionate about creating government programs that waste money and increase proverty - and create generational poverty. Moreoever, the government taking actions is not reflective of personal morality. When the Bible says to help the poor - that exactly what we are supposed to - not offload it on another entity. That's not walking the walk.

41 posted on 04/09/2006 9:00:59 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Aussie Dasher
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7018
42 posted on 04/09/2006 9:07:53 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Their influence is now quite deep into parts of [evangelical] Christianity. For instance, we have this Christian that leans dangerously to pacifism:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1610532/posts

And of course, Christians outside the West are leftist when it comes to their attitudes towards America, war, and economics, no matter that they are as conservative as Jerry Falwell (or even more) on doctrinal issues and moral issues like gay marriage:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1582728/posts



43 posted on 04/09/2006 9:16:18 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: NZerFromHK
You should have listened to Paul Yonggi Cho.

He's an Asian Christian who gets it.

44 posted on 04/09/2006 9:26:13 PM PDT by LoveDoc
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To: Republican Wildcat
"There's nothing compassionate about creating government programs that waste money and increase proverty - and create generational poverty."

I couldn't agree with you more.

I'd love to debate one of these leftists.

I guarantee you the first thing I'd do is spend as much time as necessary asking questions to figure out if they were even saved.

Love Doc

45 posted on 04/09/2006 9:28:28 PM PDT by LoveDoc
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To: Mrs. Don-o
If I'm wrong, I'll be HAPPY to be corrected, but my take on what little I've heard of Jim Wallis' version of Christianity is that it's seriously FLAWED.

Hey Jim!

Jesus did not come to earth to help 'poor' people.

He came to get back what Adam lost in the Garden of Eden.

I guess you could argue that since man could be said to be impoverished by virtue of Adam's actions, that he was here for poor people.

But not in any way close to the manner in which I understand you've tended to present the case.

46 posted on 04/09/2006 9:35:15 PM PDT by LoveDoc
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To: LoveDoc

You wouldn't believe how bad things are among Asian Christian teachings. In 2003, I remember seeing a sermon recording from a Pastor Lau based in a Chinese-speaking church in the US. He was very ambivalent about war on terror and I think the only concession he made was that "If you are a US citizen or a permanent resident and the US government calls you to serve in the military, then you should go." This is about as close to supporting WOT from Chinese-speaking pastors, and only because he is based in the US!

Pastors in Asia, eg Pastor M.H. Cheung pastor of Kowloon City Baptist Church in Hong Kong, are far more openly against the war and Bush. Pastor Cheung bashed Bush openly in sermons he delivered when in Hong Kong ( http://www.baptist.org.hk ).


47 posted on 04/09/2006 9:37:01 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: NZerFromHK
Wow!

That's kind of sad.

I hope you will be encouraged to know that, 25 years ago, THE VAST MAJORITY of born again Christians in this country were CLUELESS about politics.

I remember visiting a church where the pastor is now a fire-breathing patriot of the first order and gets it completely when it comes to politics.

But back in 1992 when I visited his fellowship the week after the Democratic National Convention, he was saying stuff about Clinton like - 'Hmmm...a new face...Looks like he's got a good chance.'

I was embarrassedly (for him!) at how politically ignorant he was.

His church's basic philosophy at the time was 'Pray and God will tell you who to vote for.'

Well, I'm happy to report that, in recent years, they've been giving God a LOT OF HELP in educating their members about where each party is coming from when it comes to issues that affect the Body of Christ :)

48 posted on 04/09/2006 10:03:48 PM PDT by LoveDoc
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To: Aussie Dasher
Who is this joker?

A wolf in sheep's clothing.

49 posted on 04/09/2006 10:04:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: LoveDoc
Hi LoveDoc! You wrote: "I guess you could argue that [Jesus] was here for poor people...But not in any way close to the manner in which I understand you've tended to present the case."

I'd like to comment on that, but I don't know what you mean. Could you give me a specific example?

50 posted on 04/10/2006 6:11:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Nil humani mihi alienum.)
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