Posted on 04/09/2006 8:40:20 PM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
Americans support building a security fence along the entire 2,000 mile U.S.- Mexican border by a landslide, a new Time magazine poll has found.
By a margin of 56 to 40 percent, respondents said they want the wall built from sea to shining sea - not just the 700 miles stipulated in the House plan, a proposal the press calls "draconian."
In more evidence that the American people want a tougher crackdown on illegal immigration than anything favored by Congress or the media, 62 percent told Time that they favored using the military to guard the border. Just 35 percent opposed.
But the poll's biggest shocker may be on the question of deporting illegals back to their native country, an option that politicians and the press say is out of the question.
Time found, however, that 47 percent of those surveyed actually favor deporting "all illegal immigrants." 49 percent were opposed.
And 51 percent said the U.S. would be "better of" if all illegals were deported and the border sealed to prevent any more from coming in. Just 38 percent disagreed.
A full 75 percent say illegals should be denied government supplied healthcare and food stamps, with 21 percent saying they should get those benefits. 69 percent say illegals shouldn't be allowed to get U.S. drivers licenses.
Time surveyed 1004 adult Americans on March 29 and 30. The poll has a margin of error of +/- 3 percent
Any facts in contravention of preconceived opinion and political expediency are in direct conflict with the GOP and Bush agenda...
HOW DARE YOU POST THIS DRIVEL?
Amnesty and reward for illegal aliens is part of the GOP platform...you should be ashamed for posting this thread...
STILL WAITING FOR THE REAL OUTRAGE....TAP TAP TAP...ANYONE HOME?
Yes, and neither do we want hoards of illegal aliens making demands and clogging our cities. This is an INVASION OF AMERICA BY ANOTHER COUNTRY. Why are our elected officials not stopping it - an invasion. Yes, one can argue that anyone here, legal or illegal, has a right to protest granted in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but this is an invasion! We are loosing our sovereignty. What is happening on the southern border is unprecedented. Not only in our own history, but in the history of the world. No country at any time anywhere has sustained the influx of tens of millions of foreigners across its borders.
Wow. If the puke media comes up with this high a number, the actual number must be much higher. Well what is the GOP(minus Tancredo) going to do now ?
The FTAA Republican - International A. N. S. W. E. R. Coalition will be along shortly, to denounce you, me and 56% of the US population as trailer trash.
NEW LAW: "Any company or person that employs an illegal alien shall be fined an amount not less than $10,000 per day per violation. Any law enforcement agency may bring complaints regarding the employment of illegals by a person or company to any court. A citizen of the United States may make a formal complaint against any citizen or company to any law enforcement agency when the citizen believes an illegal alien has been hired illegally. In the event a court determines that a person or company has hired an illegal alien after such a formal complaint has been made the person making such a complaint shall be entitled to 50% of all fines assessed against the person or employer. In the even such payments are made to a person from such fines no state or federal income taxes may be accessed."
BUILD THE WALL, then after that we can figure out what to do with the people already here.
only $10,000? why not $50,000?
If Time says 56 to 40 it's actually more like 75 to 20.
46% Prefer Candidate Who Favors Barrier along Mexican Border
April 7, 2006--A Rasmussen Reports national opinion survey asked Americans to choose between two hypothetical candidates with differing positions on the immigration issue.
"One candidate favors building a barrier along the Mexican border and forcing illegal aliens to leave the United States. The other candidate favors expanding the ways that foreign workers can legally get jobs in the United States."
Forty-six percent (46%) of Americans said that they prefer the candidate with the harder line on illegal aliens while 38% opt for the candidate who wants to expand legal opportunities for foreign workers to find jobs.
However, those who say the immigration issue is very important in determining their vote prefer the pro-enforcement candidate by a much larger margin, 67% to 23%. This suggests that the short-term political advantage on the immigration issue lies with those who want a tougher enforcement policy.
Fifty percent (50%) of Americans say the immigration issue is very important. Another 32% say it is somewhat important.
An earlier survey found that two-thirds of Americans believe it doesn't make sense to debate new immigration laws until we can first control our borders and enforce existing laws. That same survey found that 40% of Americans favor "forcibly" requiring all 11 million illegal immigrants to leave the United States.
While the short-term benefit may accrue to those who favor a tougher enforcement policy, the long-term implications of the issue are less clear. At the moment, neither political party enjoys unity within its own ranks on the issue. Politicians from both sides are struggling with the nuances of the issue.
Also, it's important to note very significant regional differences of intensity surrounding this issue. Earlier this year, Rasmussen Reports state-by-state surveys found that people in the Southwest tended to view the issue as important as the War in Iraq. However, those in New England considered immigration a far less important issue.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/April%20Dailies/Immigration%20April%207.htm
I agree and wonder why our elected officials cannot figure that out.
I agree and wonder why our elected officials cannot figure that out.
In a coincidental side note, the percentage of illegals in the US now STANDS AT 21-PERCENT!!
HEY! I think those are the wheels stolen off my old buick!
Hey Congress! How about one at a time. And you keep arresting them and sending them back as long as there are some to arrest and send back. Maybe that way next years number will be 9,000,000 instead of 15,000,000. Ohh I forgot. The Dems have already started counting those votes.
Ok, make it $50K.....
ILLEGALS have no right to protest.
I cannot see how that is even arguable!
They should have their business confiscated, period.
"Mr. Bush, put up this wall."
Exactly, prove to me that you have a method to enforce policy, THEN write the policy. The problem is, if they build a fence or wall, they will have no excuse not to deport.
I have no problem with legal temporary workers... just not voters. The leftovers will deport themselves.
Since there is already a short cheap little fence along most of the southern border, it might be better to say "Reinforce the Fence".
This could remind those "on the fence" that it's not really a new idea, but a serious, major reinforcement to block trespassers.
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If I heard that there was a country, particularly bordering mine, where I would be paid three times my annual per day,. I would hop that fence in a second, laws be damned.
My neighborhood will look like La Boca in Buenos Aires?
Highly unlikely.
Yes, build the wall. And make the price for employing illegal aliens cost so much that employers will stop doing it. The illegals' jobs will dry up, and then they will SEND THEMSELVES home at no expense to our government. The jobs left open can be filled by legal immigrants or by Americans.
1 USD = 11.1480 MXN
A dollar goes a long way in Mexico..
I wish that were correct, and perhaps it is, but someone on the radio the other day was stating there are two kinds of rights afforded by our Constitution. Some apply to everyone in the country, and others only apply to legal citizens. The person was making the case that anyone in the US has a right to protest. Even if that were true, we do not have to stand still for this invasion!!
Putting up a fence will not stop the tide.
The very reason for their coming here, ie, the fact that they can get a job, has to be addressed.
Coming here illegally must be a felony that is backed up every time, and employers who hire them knowingly need to have their pee pee wacked hard, and predictably.
This is in part of what I had posted earlier on http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1609778/posts?q=1&&page=51 #51.
THE IRS VS. THE INS
"The SSA holds no legal authority to levy fines and penalties against either employees who fraudulently obtain a SSN or against employers who repeatedly submit large numbers of wage reports with incorrect SSNs and ; therefore, must rely on the IRS to do so, and audits at the date of the 2002 Center for Immigration Report revealed this rarely happens. The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 . . . states that information concerning illegal alien status should be provided to the INS notwithstanding any other law." Revealed was the IRS believed its own regulations guaranteed the confidentiality of tax return information and did not intend to share any returns with the INS."
Funniest thing I have read in a while. lol
You must be wrong, posters on FR have repeatedly told me the US has not become a sewer...unless they of course are in the million dollar plus gate guarded communities..could their mansions have been gained by exploiting illegals?
Yet the powers that be in the Senate are going to "fix things" with their 2006 immigration reform act. What a joke.
most of them, if not the whole lot (barring some noteworthies)care only for their re-election. And on most other facets, they have a valid argument (at least the conservatives, using that word loosely here).
But regards the flood of illegals, only hard core attention and subsequent laws, with teeth, and the willingness to support same, by either party, will successfully address it.
Problem, there are too many interested parties that benefit from the flood, in votes, which translates to power, hence real reform is a long ways off. There simply are not enough totally outraged, vocal voters at this time.
How many of the 40% are illegals being polled?
we do not need a wall. .50 cal., ma duece gun emplacements with interlocking fields of fire at 100 yards would be fine.
The wall will make all the other problems tractable. Until we cut off the inflow, none of the other problems can be solved.
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I agree the inflow needs to be stopped first.
As a Bushbot I say if this (a fence only) passed the House and Senate Bush would not veto it. And that would send the Presidents polls through the roof. But the Senate needs a spine.
Yes they have a powerful motive. But they have to physically get here--its not like trying to police the Internet.
The Berlin wall worked really well. The wall in Israel is working really well. In areas where we have built a wall with Mexico, it works really well.
What makes you think a wall along our border will not? Do you want to just give up on this without trying? And if in reduces the flood of illegals by 95%, are the remaining 5% really an argument against it?
The reason nothing has worked 'til now is an unholy alliance of leftists who are drooling over the prospect of another government-dependent underclass that will give them a permanent majority and business R's who want cheap, non-union labor.
Until now, the public hasn't really cared and so that alliance has had it's way. If politicians become convinced that they have to halt the flood to remain in office, watch 'em get a spine. Building the wall is step one.
Bush for the past year has been telling the base to take a hike!
Yes...If the legislative body of this nation passed a Fence Only bill...with saber tooth bite...and Bush endorsed it as a step on the way to immigration reform...his poll numbers would sky rocket...
I totally agree...
And what odds are we placing on this eventuality?
In Mexico, it is consitutionally illegal for a non-citizen, legal or not, to publicly COMMENT on internal politcal questions or policy, let alone demonstrate.
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