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Why McCain might be it
The Washington Post via The Austin American-Statesman ^ | April 09, 2006 | George Will

Posted on 04/10/2006 12:05:37 AM PDT by neverdem

First Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston, now John McCain and the media. Even torrid relationships are perishable. It was only a matter of time before the media turned on their pin-up, and that time has arrived. A rivulet, soon to be a river, of journalism is reporting — as a mystery deciphered, even a scandal unearthed — that McCain, who occupies the Senate seat once held by Barry Goldwater, is a conservative Republican.

He has been unmasked as a "pro-life, pro-family, fiscal conservative." Those words are his, and are a reasonably accurate self-description of the man who voted against the prescription drug entitlement and the most recent transportation bill because of their costs.

McCain proclaims his extravagant admiration for Teddy Roosevelt, a man of many virtues, not one of which was moral modesty. Speaker of the House Thomas Reed once said to TR, "If there is one thing for which I admire you more than anything else, Theodore, it is your original discovery of the Ten Commandments." St. John of Arizona can seem insufferably certain that he has cornered the market on incorruptibility. So as he begins trying to assemble a presidential majority, he seems, as anyone trying to do that will, like a run-of-the-mill sinner.

But his quest for the Republicans' 2008 nomination was bound to require tactics inconsistent with his carefully cultivated reputation for unexampled authenticity. He has endorsed teaching "intelligent design" theory in schools, and has sought a detente with Jerry Falwell, one of "the agents of intolerance" he denounced in 2000. But who has ever assembled a presidential constituency without endorsing positions formerly avoided or compromising positions formerly endorsed?

McCain is considered compromised because he now favors making permanent some of President Bush's tax cuts that McCain opposed when they were first proposed. But enacting the...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: georgewill; johnmccain; mccain; mccain2008; propaganda; puppetmasters; rino
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I hope not!
1 posted on 04/10/2006 12:05:40 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Why McCain might be it

Only if the "it" was how Hillary ended elected President.
2 posted on 04/10/2006 12:08:35 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: neverdem

Anyone but McCain. Oh yea and Mitt Romney too...


3 posted on 04/10/2006 12:10:12 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: neverdem
McQuig would be the worst possible candidate to run against Hitlery. He is a RINO of the first order who has done everything possible to limit free speech with his moronic McCain-Feingold legislation.

He is a true Manchurian candidate who has NO business at the head of the most powerful nation on earth. A leopard cannot change it's spots. McQuig can bark and howl about what a conservative he is to the media and anyone who will listen. Those of us who have watched himknow the real truth.

4 posted on 04/10/2006 12:10:25 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Condi 2008.<------added January 2004. Remember you heard it here first)
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To: neverdem

if he get the nomination, I'm not voting, and I'll be encouraging others not to vote either.....regardless of if Hillary is nominated or not.


5 posted on 04/10/2006 12:10:36 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: neverdem

The headline left out an "sh" in front of "it".


6 posted on 04/10/2006 12:11:25 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Echo Talon

You know Romney and Rudy are bad by the fact, that McCain can actually run to the right of them and Romney and Rudy are probably the only 2 guys in the country who could make McCain look like a real conservative.


7 posted on 04/10/2006 12:12:44 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Tall_Texan
The headline left out an "sh" in front of "it".

No they didn't. It's the 'it', as in 'it's full of it'

8 posted on 04/10/2006 12:13:58 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: ARCADIA

McCain would beat Hillary in an electoral rout not seen since 1984.

The fact is we can do much better.


9 posted on 04/10/2006 12:14:11 AM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: neverdem

NO to McLAME!


10 posted on 04/10/2006 12:15:09 AM PDT by Rick_Michael
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To: neverdem
McCain is not just a Rino, he is also literally insane. He has already openly attack first amendment rights, if he became Peesident, he would do more damage to the U.S. than the Clintons did in their eight years in the White House.
11 posted on 04/10/2006 12:16:54 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: neverdem

Peesident = President


12 posted on 04/10/2006 12:17:22 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: neverdem

I wouldn't vote for him for all the mexicans in the US.


14 posted on 04/10/2006 12:18:29 AM PDT by Jimbaugh (Fear the Base !!!)
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To: Sonny M

If it's Hillary he's running against, I'll be dragging everyone I can to vote for him.


15 posted on 04/10/2006 12:18:54 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: neverdem

NOOOO!!!!!


16 posted on 04/10/2006 12:19:33 AM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: neverdem

"McCain .... is a conservative Republican. "


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ROTFL -- I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Just look at his voting record.

He recently authored and sponsored the "terrorist protection" bill, that doesn't sound like something a conservative Republican would do.

Not to mention all his other votes that were not only NOT "conservative Republican", but there were opposite of the votes of the Republican majority.


17 posted on 04/10/2006 12:22:23 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Frankly, I don't disagree with much of what McCain has to say.

However, the man is nuts. He scares me.

18 posted on 04/10/2006 12:22:31 AM PDT by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: vik

Thanks for the reminder. This guy is arguably more dangerious than Hillary.


19 posted on 04/10/2006 12:22:58 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: RWR8189
"McCain would beat Hillary in an electoral rout not seen since 1984."

Only if he is running on a Democratic ticket; on a Republican ticket he would be an excellent reason to go play golf on election day.
20 posted on 04/10/2006 12:24:09 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: pcottraux
george Allen will be the GOP nominee !

Bank on it !

21 posted on 04/10/2006 12:25:08 AM PDT by america-rules
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To: america-rules
Allen is a marshmallow.

"Jet Puffed" is not presidential timber.

22 posted on 04/10/2006 12:26:37 AM PDT by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: Sonny M
You know Romney and Rudy are bad by the fact, that McCain can actually run to the right of them and Romney and Rudy are probably the only 2 guys in the country who could make McCain look like a real conservative.

Yes, and Cindy Sheehan makes mcCain look sane.

23 posted on 04/10/2006 12:27:52 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Paul C. Jesup
If the McCainiac is it, it will be without this child, no more will I vote for the lesser evil.
24 posted on 04/10/2006 12:28:36 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: zarf
"Allen is a marshmallow."

You are entitled to your baseless opinion.

25 posted on 04/10/2006 12:29:49 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: neverdem
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26 posted on 04/10/2006 12:31:07 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
If the McCainiac is it, it will be without this child, no more will I vote for the lesser evil.

Depending on who is on the opposing ticket, McCain may be the greater evil.

27 posted on 04/10/2006 12:31:23 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: neverdem
I like George Allen. Lots of liberal Republicans and one real conservative - as long as the conservative vote isn't split we might have a chance to nominate someone like Allen. This was on his web site:

   “I trust free people, free enterprise, and free markets to allow folks to innovate and create opportunities for all Americans to advance, compete, and succeed. I don't like limits and restrictions on people. I think they ought to be only limited by their own hard work, ingenuity, imagination and their character.” -
28 posted on 04/10/2006 12:31:36 AM PDT by Maurice Tift
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To: neverdem

Not my favorite, and I wouldn't vote for him in the Primary. If it came down to him against Hillary, or Feingold against Hillary, well most any Dem, I would vote for McPain. He could never do as much home to this country as a Liberal.


29 posted on 04/10/2006 12:31:37 AM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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30 posted on 04/10/2006 12:32:07 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Fortunately, the Republican nominee is chosen by Republican primary voters, not by insufferable Beltway swishes like George Will.


31 posted on 04/10/2006 12:33:33 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: neverdem

Should McCain run, he will get a rude shock from the voters, imo!


32 posted on 04/10/2006 12:33:36 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Depending on who is on the opposing ticket, McCain may be the greater evil.

Interesting. Cannot wait to find out who a lesser evil could be.

33 posted on 04/10/2006 12:36:06 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: america-rules

I like Allen, but a lot of FReepers don't.

In theory, Tancredo would be the best pic but I don't think he's a winnable candidate.


34 posted on 04/10/2006 12:37:32 AM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: neverdem
He has endorsed teaching "intelligent design" theory in schools...

I already rather much detested McCain, but pigs will fly through a blizzard in hell before I'd vote for him now.

35 posted on 04/10/2006 12:37:57 AM PDT by AntiGuv (The 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: neverdem

I don't "hate" McCain, but I sure would never vote for him. It isn't a matter of hate, it's just that I can't stand him. As soon as I see him, I get angry. That's all it takes. Especially after seeing him up there with Ted fat head Kennedy on the amnesty thing. I can't say "that was the last straw", because the last straw was a long time ago. Let's just say, after seeing him up there the other day with fat-head, "that was the last, last straw". I don't care what the "polls say" ... he has about as much chance of getting the nomination as Lindsey (Lindsay? - what's his name?) Graham-cracker (or whatever his name is - he was up there too, with fat-head). What happened to Rudy? He isn't running? God knows where this thing is going, but I like George Allen of Virginia.


36 posted on 04/10/2006 12:41:59 AM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: AntiGuv

You wouldn't vote for someone if they wanted ID taught? Not as a replacement to darwin but as an alternative. teach both


37 posted on 04/10/2006 12:43:45 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: AntiGuv

PS. And in case that seems unclear, even though I detested McCain I still would've voted for him over someone even more detestable (e.g., Hillary). But I'd sooner chop my hand off now..


38 posted on 04/10/2006 12:43:48 AM PDT by AntiGuv (The 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Cincinna

If NovoCaine can get past the primaries I can see him comfortably winning the General election against any Democrat. That is unless the base deserts him in November. But then we are not letting him get past the primaries, so McPain can forget it.


39 posted on 04/10/2006 12:44:00 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: pcottraux
"In theory, Tancredo would be the best pic but I don't think he's a winnable candidate."

He comes off as a wack job even if we agree 100% !

It will be George Allen 100% bank on it !

40 posted on 04/10/2006 12:45:22 AM PDT by america-rules
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To: RWR8189

"McCain would beat Hillary in an electoral rout not seen since 1984."

Not with my vote.


41 posted on 04/10/2006 12:47:59 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Echo Talon

Absolutely not. I would never vote for anyone that to my knowledge supports teaching "intelligent design" as if it were science. ID is not science and science education in America has enough problems without teaching mysticism and philosophy as if they're science. Who knows what future scientist's achievements could potentially get aborted by teaching him unscientific nonsense as if it were science??


42 posted on 04/10/2006 12:49:10 AM PDT by AntiGuv (The 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: pcottraux
In theory, Tancredo would be the best pic but I don't think he's a winnable candidate.

My thoughts exactly. We need to start a grassroots campaign and bring this guy upto the front. And let's not keep saying he's not winnable, it doesn't help. He is already the frontrunner at the FReep polls which means something.

43 posted on 04/10/2006 12:49:14 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: america-rules
"He[Tancredo] comes off as a wack job even if we agree 100% "

Really ? What makes you say that ?

44 posted on 04/10/2006 12:50:42 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Hmm...looks like you're right.


45 posted on 04/10/2006 12:52:52 AM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I will not vote for McCain now way not how ! ! ! He is a nut case ! Anyone but McCain is what I say. Don't know much about George Allen but would vote for him Rudy, Romney over McCain. What do all of you have against Romney?


46 posted on 04/10/2006 12:53:44 AM PDT by ducks1944 (GOD Bless the USA .)
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To: Jimbaugh
I wouldn't vote for him for all the mexicans in the US.

Well at least he has all the Mexican vote locked up.

47 posted on 04/10/2006 12:54:53 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: neverdem

Carnac: Why McCain might be it...

Ed: Ho ho ho!

Carnac: Because every conservative running has dropped out, and we all forget there are third parties begging to be considered.

Ed: Hey-AHHHH!

The only way a RINO like McCain gets my vote is if he's got a gun to my head. I'd rather 'waste' my vote on a third party conservative than REALLY waste my vote on an insane nutbag like him.

And for anyone still remotely considering that dirtbag--Senator Keating Five McCain, lately Mr. "Campaign Reform," didn't vote against the 'bridge to nowhere' when he could have stood tall against pork and had it COUNT instead of grandstanding.


48 posted on 04/10/2006 12:54:56 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: neverdem

Funny how demoRATs love to pick our candidates for us. I'm certain they have our best interests in mind.

I'd pick Cynthia McKinney for them.

You're welcome!


49 posted on 04/10/2006 12:57:57 AM PDT by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl

You are a hoot and a half, FO. You are nothing but the biggest Ah-nold shill on FR, and yet McCain ain't Conservative enough for you. As erratic and nutty as McCain is, he looks like a John Bircher compared to the liberal fraud in Sacramento, whom in your eyes poops platinum bars. Hypocrisy ain't just a creek in Greece.


50 posted on 04/10/2006 12:58:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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