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An army of narcissists?
The Washington Times ^ | 4/11/06 | Cheryl Wetzstein

Posted on 04/11/2006 12:07:23 PM PDT by qam1

A few weeks ago, U.S. champion skier Bode Miller turned in a stunningly poor performance at the Olympics, with two non-medal finishes, a disqualification and two incomplete races.

Unabashed, he told the Associated Press: "I just did it my way. I'm not a martyr, and I'm not a do-gooder. I just want to go out and rock. And man, I rocked here."

Mr. Miller's exuberant self-assessment makes him "a poster child" for "Generation Me," says San Diego State University psychology professor Jean Twenge.

Americans born after 1970 -- including the so-called Generation X and Millennial Generation -- have become "an army of little narcissists," says Mrs. Twenge, who explains her views in her new book, "Generation Me: Why Today's Young Americans Are More Confident, Assertive, Entitled and More Miserable Than Ever Before."

Unlike their parents and grandparents, "GenMes" have "never known a world that put duty before self," she says. Instead, they were raised in a culture obsessed with self-esteem and feel-good mantras such as "Believe in yourself, and you can be anything" and "Never give up on your dreams."

The result is a generation of youths who are tolerant, confident, open-minded, ambitious -- and have wildly unreasonable expectations about how they fit into the adult world.

"They expect to go to college, to make lots of money, and perhaps even to be famous," Mrs. Twenge says. But when reality hits, and they don't get the coveted college placement or high-paying job, or they discover the high costs of housing and health care, many members of Generation Me crash emotionally, she says.......

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KEYWORDS: bodemiller; bookreview; clintongeneration; dissthescum; generationme; generationy; genx; mac; narcissists; pimp; pimpdaddy; powerfuldelusion; selfesteem; usteam; wetzstein; whitetrash
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1 posted on 04/11/2006 12:07:25 PM PDT by qam1
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To: qam1

I suggest the author read "The Culture of Narcissism" by Christopher Lasch, published 1979. Pretty much dissects the Boomers. (Yes, I am one.)


2 posted on 04/11/2006 12:09:31 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; ...
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3 posted on 04/11/2006 12:10:41 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Welcome to the Real world bump.


4 posted on 04/11/2006 12:10:49 PM PDT by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: qam1

Narcisist ---perhaps. Genme? Perhaps

Asshole? ---definitely.


5 posted on 04/11/2006 12:12:36 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: qam1
"they were raised in a culture obsessed with self-esteem and feel-good mantras such as "Believe in yourself, and you can be anything" and "Never give up on your dreams."

So it's my parent's and society's fault that I didn't end up an astronaut? Cool! Who do I sue?

And all this time I thought it was all the beer and girls I chased in college!

6 posted on 04/11/2006 12:13:58 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: qam1

This is true for Canadians of this generation as well. I know, because I belong to this generation. Fortunately for myself, I was born to Eastern European immigrants who taught me a good work ethic. I know many friends who are like this guy, and it has got worse with each subsequent generation.


7 posted on 04/11/2006 12:15:21 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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To: qam1
U.S. champion skier Bode Miller...

How did such a loser even qualify for the Olympics in the first place?!

8 posted on 04/11/2006 12:17:08 PM PDT by Tamar1973 ("There are some things for which we should display no tolerance." Queen Margrethe II of Denmark)
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To: qam1
There are two songs that make me nauseas, that I always turn off the radio when they come on.

One is "Imagine" by John Lennon.

The other is "The Greatest Love of All" by Whitney Houston. It's a peon to self worship. I was raised on H-O-Y - Jesus first, others second, put yourself last.
9 posted on 04/11/2006 12:17:10 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: qam1

I just blame my ex.


10 posted on 04/11/2006 12:17:10 PM PDT by Pondman88
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To: qam1

In other words, Bode kept another olympic hopeful from going just so Bode could rock.


11 posted on 04/11/2006 12:18:44 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Catholic Canadian

Having just completed the rest of the article, I don't think this new self centred generation is any better off, because I know far too many with serious drug and alcohol problems who have or are in the process of destroying themselves.


12 posted on 04/11/2006 12:19:55 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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To: lovecraft

My kid is GenX, an independent SOB if there ever was one. He knows he is going to get screwed and therefore is very Conservative, family oriented, and hates rats, what more could you ask for in a Son. He also learns from his mistakes and never repeats them.


13 posted on 04/11/2006 12:23:13 PM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: qam1

I have to put two more cents in here.

With the diminishment of the Christian culture of life in our nation, people have had to turn to "feel good" stuff in order to validate their self worth.

According to Judeo-Christian belief, people are worthy because they are made in God's image, by a loving God. There is a simple inherit worth in the nature of our being.

We are loved by the one who created us, and pronounced his creation "good".

If you have crawled up from the fishes, the self concept has to be totally different.


14 posted on 04/11/2006 12:25:13 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: sgtbono2002
Youth volunteering is up, while rates of crime, youth victimization, substance abuse, teen pregnancy, even youth suicide are all down... Marine Corps Gen. James Jones has it right when he says, "?'We're seeing a huge cultural shift away from the word 'I' to the word 'we,' in this new generation ... and that's to be celebrated.'... "Always try your best, and don't giveupon your dreams."

From what I see, today's youth are doing just fine.

15 posted on 04/11/2006 12:26:36 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Little Bill
He probably had the same teacher I had in high school....the one that kept repeating the mantra "That YOUR generation will not make as much as your parent's did." Because of inflation, Reagonomics, etc.

Well, I've already proved that theory wrong, and I hope your son does too.

16 posted on 04/11/2006 12:26:51 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I imagine there are many in all generations. I visited my brother a few years ag(Baby Boomer) and noticed that his house was full of pictures of him and his wife and not one picture of their 2 children or 3 grandchildren. I always thought that they loved themselves more than anyone and that just cemented it in my mind.

I would think that it would be easier to be narcissistic if you hadn't had too many bumps on the road.

17 posted on 04/11/2006 12:26:55 PM PDT by tiki
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To: qam1

Sheesh. I guess the guy should have just committed suicide for having a bad week.


18 posted on 04/11/2006 12:28:32 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: qam1

It's because of the media, and mostly tv...especially the constant ads for ...'doing it your way'...'have it your way'...'no questions'....'you deserve a break today'...'break the rules'...etc


19 posted on 04/11/2006 12:28:58 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: qam1
"Americans born after 1970 -- including the so-called Generation X and Millennial Generation -- have become "an army of little narcissists," says Mrs. Twenge....."

This walking, talking piece of fecal matter has obviously not even bothered to look towards the Mid East and other parts of this world where "kids" born from 1970 on, are fighting and dying for her right to spew this sewage from her pie hole.

She needs to STFU and in a hurry.
20 posted on 04/11/2006 12:30:46 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: qam1

When I was a young man, I was full of piss and vinegar too. My only regret is that I didn't party more in college. Now, entering my last decades, I am in agreement with Lin Yutang, the Taoist philosopher of old China, who wrote:

"Happiness consists of being able to get your hair cut every couple of weeks. . . and watching your industrious neighbor take a tumble off his roof."


21 posted on 04/11/2006 12:31:29 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Join me! Every night I pray for Global Warming . (And I think it's beginning to work.))
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To: Little Bill
I am the son and grandson of two old German farmers who worked and sweated any such ideas out of me by the time I was 15. The closest friends I have are the same way. Stubborn, and bound and determined to work hard and make.

Sadly, while attending college, I saw that many in my generation were very immature and self centered. Figured that would stop after school. By the looks of some of them, it only intensified.
22 posted on 04/11/2006 12:31:52 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: tiki

"I would think that it would be easier to be narcissistic if you hadn't had too many bumps on the road."


It would be easier to be narcissistic if they didn't have mirrors.


23 posted on 04/11/2006 12:34:16 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: qam1

I never heard of Bode Miller until today (don't care about winter sports). This is from his bio on NBC sports (up to the Torino games):

"Career highlights
Bode Miller is the reigning champion in the World Cup overall, the most coveted prize in Alpine skiing. He won two Olympic silver medals (giant slalom, combined) at the 2002 Games in Salt Lake City, and also has five career medals (four golds) at world championships. He had flirted with the overall title for years (fourth in 2002, second in 2003, fourth in 2004) before finally winning it in 2005."

Yea, real loser.

/sarcasm


24 posted on 04/11/2006 12:34:38 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: qam1
But when reality hits, and they don't get the coveted college placement or high-paying job, or they discover the high costs of housing and health care, many members of Generation Me crash emotionally...

They crash emotionally, then blame everyone and everything around them, except for themselves.

Because they have been permanently endowed with the inalienable right to Self Esteem, no failure nor horrible misdeed can ever take it away.

Self Esteem should be the natural consequence of success, not a detached hubris bestowed by misguided teachers.

25 posted on 04/11/2006 12:35:49 PM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: qam1
Finished the article.

I wonder if we as a nation we be better off if life wasn't so easy. If people had to work for what they had, would they be better people? Definitely.
26 posted on 04/11/2006 12:35:50 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I dont think Bode is going to join the marines.


27 posted on 04/11/2006 12:37:08 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: taxed2death
San Diego State University psychology professor Jean Twenge.

Collectively, psycohology professors and university faculty have done more damage to the American spirit than one flip remark by an Olympic hopeful could ever do. I agree, she should STFU.

28 posted on 04/11/2006 12:38:03 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: sgtbono2002
I'd recommend:

U.S. Army 10th Mountain Division

29 posted on 04/11/2006 12:40:49 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: sgtbono2002
Narcisist ---perhaps. Genme? Perhaps Asshole? ---definitely.

Good insight! My profession (shrink) calls them narcissists, but "asshole" actually IS the equivalent lay term. Or, more politely, "jerk".

30 posted on 04/11/2006 12:43:25 PM PDT by dagogo redux (I never met a Dem yet who didn't understand a slap in the face, or a slug from a 45)
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To: taxed2death
This walking, talking piece of fecal matter has obviously not even bothered to look towards the Mid East and other parts of this world where "kids" born from 1970 on, are fighting and dying for her right to spew this sewage from her pie hole.

I'm glad someone posted this. I was just about to. Thanks.

31 posted on 04/11/2006 12:43:46 PM PDT by ncdrumr
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To: qam1
One could report these "findings" about anyone, from any generation; ditto with the exceptions.

I've never been a fan of "generational" thinking; it's all a pose to get people to buy more books, thinking they are "part of a generation" when we are all individuals who are part of the groups we join, whether religious, political, etc. I have no more in common with other people born in 1965 than with anyone else, but some seem to think that because we recall the same awful 80's tunes we are somehow "fellow Gen Xers" or whatever. How stupid.

32 posted on 04/11/2006 12:43:58 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. " TR)
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To: qam1

Who cares? One writers opinion piece, hardly a fact driven one.

EVERY generation has its losers and winners. I never bought into the "greatest" generation, or all boomers are whiners etc.

"When I was your age, we ......."

Sheesh.


33 posted on 04/11/2006 12:45:12 PM PDT by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: lovecraft
No, not a teacher, his first pay stub, where is all my money going? I showed him my W2, I payed more in taxes than he was going to earn that year, and told him down to the Acre, the welfare area in the city I live in.
34 posted on 04/11/2006 12:46:05 PM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: qam1

My favorite part of this piece-

"Mrs. Twenge agrees that today's youth are optimistic, but she still worries about them. Another case in point in her book: Tone-deaf "American Idol" wannabe William Hung, who advises his fans, "Always try your best, and don't giveupon your dreams."



OH NO, she is worried about William Hungs advice??


35 posted on 04/11/2006 12:46:51 PM PDT by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: taxed2death

"This walking, talking piece of fecal matter has obviously not even bothered to look towards the Mid East and other parts of this world where "kids" born from 1970 on, are fighting and dying for her right to spew this sewage from her pie hole.

She needs to STFU and in a hurry."

I was going to say essentially the same thing, but I think you said it better anyhow.

Nice job! :-)

(I love it how folks can stereotype entire generations consisting of millions of people.)


36 posted on 04/11/2006 12:55:09 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: LongsforReagan

As long as he doesn't sing his advice.

}:-)4


37 posted on 04/11/2006 12:55:26 PM PDT by Moose4 (Please don't call me "white trash." I prefer "Caucasian recyclable.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Unlike their parents and grandparents, "GenMes" have "never known a world that put duty before self,"

Greatest movie ever made about duty, honor, sacrifice and love of country.

It makes my eyes water up just thinking about it.

released 1944

38 posted on 04/11/2006 12:58:43 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Larry Lucido

Yes, in general the "silent generation" as well as the "greatest generation" that had a MILITARY DRAFT was greatly helped by their enforced military service. Generation X makes due within a military that has enormous day care centers on every post.


39 posted on 04/11/2006 12:59:50 PM PDT by Reagan 76
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To: Larry Lucido

I don't think Bode Miller is a "loser". He is an insufferable jerk, however, as narcissistic as they come.


40 posted on 04/11/2006 1:10:10 PM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: Larry Lucido

No doubt it would do him a world of good.

The time to party is AFTER the job is done.

This turd spent his time partying and never once had the brains to remind himself of all the good parties he would have had if he had done his job. he could have been a hero and gotten laid a thousand times, Now he is a dunce and might find a woman who likes losers.


41 posted on 04/11/2006 1:16:22 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: qam1

Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Puh-leese. So all the people fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, and else-where are narcissists? Silly op-ed journalist.


42 posted on 04/11/2006 1:20:21 PM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: sgtbono2002

You might be right. I didn't read whether or not he bothered showing up for practice. If he really did party and not prepare, then it is an example of wasted potential.


43 posted on 04/11/2006 1:20:29 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: qam1

An assessment of military volunteerism comparing the Baby Boomers to younger generations would strongly refute this article. The most nihilistic overall generation is the Boomers, the second most are Gen Y, whom they raised wrong.


44 posted on 04/11/2006 1:57:18 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: qam1
"Americans born after 1970 -- including the so-called Generation X and Millennial Generation -- have become "an army of little narcissists," says Mrs. Twenge..."

And is Mzzzzzz. Twenge a Baby Boomer, perhaps? I'm a Baby Boomer, and even I know narcissistic projection when I see it. My Baby Boomer generation was the worst generation of spoiled brats and continues to be so. It is the generation that begat the spoiled rotten among the next generation with fatherlessness through feminism. Most of my peers--Democrat and Republican--continue to screech, "Not in my backyard!" and "But what about the cottontail migration trails?" They are also responsible for the feminazi debacle of our corporations.
45 posted on 04/11/2006 2:21:52 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop; qam1

Actually, I enjoyed reading her cv, which I think is useful:

http://www.psychology.sdsu.edu/new-web/news/JeanTwenge.jpg

She's likely no boomer, having gotten her undergrad in 1993.

However, conclusions may be intentionally skewed to sell books (bearing in mind book sales to Gen X are probably lower than sales to the Oprah-book-club-reading Boomers) or please superiors (since she's working at San Diego State, and a UChicago/UMich grad, she probably has ambitions to grander things). She has a few studies that lead one to think perhaps her bent may be typical psychological babble, but I think she's done some interesting research. Nonetheless, if I bother at all with it, I'll read the book on the shelf instead of buying it.

What's funny is that she has on the SDSU site a q&a about this that will lead everyone here to realize what a psych major she is. Her theory is that Gen X was built to high self esteem and when Gen Xers don't meet their own expectations, they lash out against attackers. This is particularly funny, because anyone who disagrees with her conclusions from Gen X will be in her eyes a typical Gen Xer. So this whole thread would 'confirm' her theory.

Doesn't that sound like some of the circular logic other psychobabblers have thrown at us? We're slackers...so we're bitter...so we're cynical...so we're slackers...

Never could stand psych majors.


46 posted on 04/11/2006 4:11:20 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: LibertarianInExile

...agreed. Many of the psych. and soc. majors and instructors at my university had a reputation for being nutty. It's no wonder, as much as people from those departments told others about themselves (and about their disfunctional families, etc.).


47 posted on 04/11/2006 4:17:02 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: qam1

the Clinton Generation comes of age.


48 posted on 04/11/2006 5:22:20 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Polls show Jesus' approval ratings at all time low, after a triumphant reception just a few days ago)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
When I was a young man, I was full of piss and vinegar too

when I was a young man, a pussy like this wouldn't have lasted a week at my school.

49 posted on 04/11/2006 5:25:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Polls show Jesus' approval ratings at all time low, after a triumphant reception just a few days ago)
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To: the invisib1e hand
My generation, (what do they name the generation after GenX? I was born in 1985) is pretty greedy, and are very used to being satisfied almost immediately. Think about it, we've grown up with cable tv, computers, the Internet, fast good, and cell phones. I have noticed that overall my generation is rather fiscally conservative, whether they realize it or not. Many people on my campus (university of Illinois Urbana Champaign) have some pretty conservative ideas, but they end up getting caught up in Bush=fascist idiot. Most don't like government involvement in their lives.

I think this generation will turn out better than the Greatest (welfare creating) Generation and the Baby (aborting) boomers.
50 posted on 04/11/2006 5:42:27 PM PDT by RHINO369
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