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Hybrid Comet-Asteroid In Mysterious Break-Up
New Scientist ^ | 4-11-2006 | Jeff Hecht

Posted on 04/11/2006 3:06:42 PM PDT by blam

Hybrid comet-asteroid in mysterious break-up

09:30 11 April 2006
NewScientist.com news service
Jeff Hecht

The large, diffuse breakaway object is centred at the 2 o'clock position relative to the nucleus. The image is a negative, with the darkest areas representing the brightest objects.

Something substantial has broken off an icy 50-kilometre object beyond the orbit of Saturn, leaving puzzled astronomers trying to figure out why.

Comets have been seen breaking up before, but only after heating when passing close to the Sun or a gravitational disturbance following a close encounter with a planet.

However, at 1.9 billion kilometres, this object is very far from the Sun. Another mysterious feature is that much more gas and dust is escaping from the breakaway fragment than from the parent body. The disintegration has created a dust cloud more than 100,000 km across and which is several times brighter than the original object was before the event.

The object, called 60558 Echeclus, was discovered in 2000 and is a “centaur” - part rocky asteroid and part icy comet. Its new activity, revealed in images taken on 2 April, makes it look “really strange", says William Romanishen of the University of Oklahoma, US, one of the team that took the images. "The first thing that came to mind was a collision."

Earlier observations showed Echeclus rotates about once every 26 hours, so a fragment would need a push to escape its gravity, says Paul Weissman of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, who spotted the original cloud of gas and dust around Echeclus on 30 December 2005.

Explosive sublimation

Such an impact on a comet-like body has not been observed before. But there are other possibilities, says Steve Tegler of Northern Arizona University, US, who works with Romanishen. He says it is most likely that the event was caused by explosive sublimation of volatile ices in Echeclus, resulting in material being blasted off.

Tegler says the evaporating ice is probably carbon monoxide, with vaporises at about that distance from the Sun, where the object's temperature is about 80 degrees Kelvin, close to the sublimation temperature. No one has yet analysed the gas composition.

Another puzzle is the difference in activity between the main nucleus and the fragment. Freshly exposed ices normally sublimate, so "you'd expect equal activity from both pieces", Wiessman says. But the nucleus does not look very active.

Unstable orbits

Echeclus was discovered by the Spacewatch telescope in 2000, and at first looked like an asteroid. Then Weissman found it was surrounded by a coma, so astronomers also classed it as a periodic comet, 174P. The photos from 2 April show the coma has now spread out.

Echeclus belongs to a group of more than 100 centaurs with orbits well outside the main asteroid belt. Although originally from the distant Kuiper belt, they now orbit the Sun between Jupiter and Neptune, but will be ejected from those unstable orbits within tens of millions of years. Cometary clouds have been reported around three other centaurs too.

Echeclus is currently moving towards the Sun on its 35-year orbit, and will pass closest to our star - about 880 million km - in April 2015. Other centaurs have become active as they moved inward, Tegler says. But none have shown such dramatic activity.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 25may2006; asteroid; break; bushsfault; comet; hybrid; mysterious; up

1 posted on 04/11/2006 3:06:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I blame the breakup on Yoko.


2 posted on 04/11/2006 3:07:20 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: RightWhale

Alien mining?


3 posted on 04/11/2006 3:07:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: dfwgator

Well, it's usually Yoko, but I think this time it was "musical differences".


4 posted on 04/11/2006 3:08:38 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (But even if he does not...)
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To: dfwgator
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5 posted on 04/11/2006 3:09:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: blam

Escape Pod leaving mother ship.


6 posted on 04/11/2006 3:10:31 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

Global warming now affecting other planets. SUV drivers are destroying our solar system.


7 posted on 04/11/2006 3:10:50 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yup! It;s the Mothership pulling away from the comet. It saved fuel by hitchin' itself to the comet for a free ride. Musta known about Earth's gas prices!


8 posted on 04/11/2006 3:11:36 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: blam
It might be mining, or it might be an Echeclusian splinter group leaving the Party.

Would it be a suprise to find somebody [a non-signatory to the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty] mining in the Solar System? Some people expect that. Most haven't thought about it.

9 posted on 04/11/2006 3:11:48 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: blam
First Nick and Jessica break-up and now this???
Sounds like end times to me!!!
10 posted on 04/11/2006 3:11:53 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: dfwgator
Hybrid Comet-Asteroid In Mysterious Break-Up

...... and I thought 'Breaking Up is Hard To Do'.

11 posted on 04/11/2006 3:13:57 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Oh, for the days when "disrespect" was just a noun.)
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To: blam
"Alien mining?"

They may be using it as a back-stop for target practice.

12 posted on 04/11/2006 3:16:00 PM PDT by Deguello (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to play.)
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To: KevinDavis; RadioAstronomer


13 posted on 04/11/2006 3:16:22 PM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: tet68
Escape Pod leaving mother ship.

LOL!

14 posted on 04/11/2006 3:20:46 PM PDT by SIDENET (Gonna shake it, gonna break it, let's forget it better still)
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To: blam
I blame the breakup on jealousy....you know those telltale red and blue circles around Uranus......hmmmmmmm
15 posted on 04/11/2006 3:27:20 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: blam
Bush's
Fault!

16 posted on 04/11/2006 3:27:56 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (In the end it does not matter if you win. All men die. What matters is how you lived. No surrender)
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To: blam

It's the Ori!!!


17 posted on 04/11/2006 3:32:27 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: blam

18 posted on 04/11/2006 3:34:32 PM PDT by seawolf101
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To: dfwgator

LOL


19 posted on 04/11/2006 4:20:29 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: blam
The astronomers start out with an error... the "icy snowball" theory of comets has been disproved by the Deep Impact experiment. The break-up of this asteroid/comet is actually MORE proof that the cometary theory is deeply flawed... and in fact, is downright wrong.

Deep Impact—Where’s the Water? (1)

Deep Impact—Where's the Water? (2)

Deep Impact—Where's the Water? (3)

Nor is it the first time a comet has been observed breaking up or flaring a coma at an extraordinary distance.

Deep Impact">and Shoemaker-Levy 9

Below is a link to an article on the difference between asteroids and comets according to the Electric Universe Cosmologists:


Orbits of the three known main-belt comets (red lines), the five innermost
planets (black lines; from the center outward: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars,
and Jupiter), a sample of 100 main-belt asteroids (orange lines), and two
"typical" comets (Halley's Comet, and Tempel 1, target of the recent Deep
Impact mission) as blue lines. Positions of the main-belt comets and planets on
March 1, 2006, are plotted with black dots. Image credit: Pedro Lacerda
(Univ. Hawaii; Univ. Coimbra, Portugal)

When Asteroids Become Comets

20 posted on 04/11/2006 7:14:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: blam

Looks sort of like the photo I saw of Apollo 13 taken from the roof of Mission Control. The pic was shot with a camera mated to a telescope. The oxygen cloud is quite noticeable. The 36th anniversary of The Bang is coming up Thursday.


21 posted on 04/11/2006 7:20:19 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: blam
There is a website from the Canary Islands where telescopes are available over the Internet to members to look wherever in the sky they want. Slooh.com

Today or so they begin observing this comet, which has apparently disintegrated into 16 chunks. One of the astronomers at Slooh.com is Levy of Shoemaker-Levy that broke up over Jupiter a few years ago. Shoemaker is no longer with us.

22 posted on 04/19/2006 9:44:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: RightWhale

Interesting, I hadn't heard about this. I knew about Shoemaker though.


23 posted on 04/19/2006 10:28:18 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I woke at 2 am last night and couldn't sleep, so I put on the Radio. Coast to Coast was on and they were discussing this. It seems, according to our friends, that this breaking up increases the chances of pieces hitting the earth (Bruce Willis! Paging Bruce Willis!!). It was very interesting.

Anyway, once they returned from a commercial, the guest started in with the twist: That Alien beings in UFO's were firing heat lasers into the comet to break off pieces that woul dhit the earth. The Purpose is not to hurt earthlings, but prevent us from starting a nuclear engagement with the Iranians.

I pretty much changed the station then to Classics, and let Brahms settle me back to sleep.

24 posted on 04/21/2006 8:30:09 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist
"It seems, according to our friends, that this breaking up increases the chances of pieces hitting the earth."

Yup. That's what caught my attention. I'm a catastrophist.

25 posted on 04/21/2006 10:35:08 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

bttt


26 posted on 04/22/2006 10:54:57 AM PDT by Cvengr
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To: blam

Periodic comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 has now broken into more than 30 different pieces


27 posted on 04/27/2006 2:25:16 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: blam

The comet currently comprises a chain of over 33 separate fragments, named alphabetically, and stretching across several degrees on the sky (the Sun and Moon each have an apparent diameter of about 1/2 a degree).

The possible binariousness of the sun was mentioned on radio last night. This idea seems to be catching on, although the only evidence so far is the precession of the equinox.


28 posted on 04/28/2006 8:45:14 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: RightWhale
"The possible binariousness of the sun was mentioned on radio last night. This idea seems to be catching on, although the only evidence so far is the precession of the equinox."

I have to admit, I'm skeptical.

29 posted on 04/28/2006 10:23:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I am too. I have been trying to calculate how big it could be and how far it would have to be, and still remain undetected when astronomers have already spotted every star out to 50 lightyears. Still, it is possible.


30 posted on 04/28/2006 10:26:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: RightWhale
"...when astronomers have already spotted every star out to 50 lightyears. Still, it is possible."

And, galaxies out to 10-15 billion light years.

31 posted on 04/28/2006 10:35:32 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The second of the double would have to be within 2 lightyears. There was a report of a possible double 8 light years out, but that is unlikely since other stars are considerably closer. Wherever it is, the sun (and the planets) would have to go around it in 24,000 years, which puts it just beyond the Oort cloud. It would have to be much bigger than Jupiter although it needn't be much of a star as far as brightness is concerned. It would also have to be in the same plane (ecliptic) as the orbits of the planets, but which direction from here is not so clear.


32 posted on 04/28/2006 10:41:49 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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Ever read Footfall? Be afraid. These aliens won't be so easy to dominate.


33 posted on 04/28/2006 10:48:40 AM PDT by vollmond (Careful with that axe, Eugene!)
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To: 75thOVI; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; CGVet58; chilepepper; ckilmer; Eastbound; ...
Catastrophism

34 posted on 05/01/2006 10:47:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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