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Oprah Winfrey: Wealth Is 'A Good Thing'
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Posted on 04/11/2006 7:46:00 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas

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To: Lurking in Kansas

I'm actually extremely jealous of Oprah.. I'll admit it. But I do love her shows lately. They've been very good.


51 posted on 04/11/2006 8:21:44 PM PDT by queenkathy (My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice)
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To: cyborg

Why did you take that racially? Race has nothing to do with it. It was wealth they were speaking about, not race.


52 posted on 04/11/2006 8:21:48 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Soon Israel will be just a memory.)
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To: cyborg; Petronski

Now there's something you don't read everyday!

Holy crap!


53 posted on 04/11/2006 8:22:32 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Steady there, sailor. ;O)


54 posted on 04/11/2006 8:23:08 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

I've heard it from liberals before, actually recently. As recently as last week said to my face. Why would one rich person ask Oprah if SHE feels guilty? Does that person feel guilty also?


55 posted on 04/11/2006 8:23:12 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: cyborg

No hard feelings, but the AA made us all suspicious of success when the source of it isn't obvious and apparent, didn't it? (And I'm talking of institutional success.) Sam Cooke, Bill Cosby didn't have to rely on crutches, but many others, who knows, and we each have our opinions.


56 posted on 04/11/2006 8:23:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Lurking in Kansas
"Wealth is a good thing"?

Deep, Opie.

Wish I had that kind of reasoning power.

57 posted on 04/11/2006 8:23:58 PM PDT by Zman516 ("Allah" is Satan, actually.)
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To: Petronski

This is cracking me up...


58 posted on 04/11/2006 8:25:36 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: weegee
Too bad that none of it was from HER generosity...
"nice" that she got all of the credit for it, though.
59 posted on 04/11/2006 8:26:08 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Zman516
Wish I had that kind of reasoning power.

She is the typical limousine liberal. It’s good/okay for me, but bad/evil for you if you're republican/conservative. She is just a typical liberal hypocrite.

60 posted on 04/11/2006 8:28:46 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I still cant stand this woman. She built her little empire on trash TV for years. She shills her new age garbage latest shrink of the week "book club" for the unthinking daytime TV boneheads who put every title she deems Oprah approved on the best sellers list.

And that's why she should feel guilty. It's not her wealth, but how she got it.

61 posted on 04/11/2006 8:30:19 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I was thinking the same thing! It boggles the mind that Oprah still supports the WITCH from NY 100% even after her rant about the rich! Hehehe, someone better tell bubba to fork over his millions to the poor, cause it seems HE and THE WITCH bank account is getting fatter and fatter! STUPID hypocritical *ITCH!!
62 posted on 04/11/2006 8:30:23 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: starbase

Just by gettin rich, she has already "paid back". First, she has paid a bundle of taxes to support not only the good stuff like the military, but also taken some of the load off the rest of us for all the crap the govt. spends money on. Second, she has employed a small army of people who have thus earned wages, paid taxes, supported their familys, all the other stuff that raises people out of poverty. Third, she has sold a jillion dollars worth of product, which has also allowed companies to hire another army of people who otherwise might be out of work, or making less money. Fourth, she has spent her money on shoes, sheets, etc., all of which are produced by another group of companies and employees. Everybody in this country ought to pause for 30 seconds every day and say a silent prayer of thanks for the rich. They help everybody just be becoming rich

I still say that a person who goes to the poorest country on earth and starts a business, hires one employee and pays him a wage that will allow him escape poverty does more good for humanity than a hundred Mother Theresa's who do nothing but pray for the poor and hold their hand while they starve.


63 posted on 04/11/2006 8:35:09 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: Revolting cat!
No, really, I think Okrah is an AA queen, and if you saw her early appearances you'd agree,

It is amazing to see how much lighter skinned Oprah has gotten over the years. She hasn't reached the Michael Jackson stage yet; however, she is several shades lighter now than she was when she started out.

Oprah does pass on some good information on her show. But, she certainly tries to indoctrinate the female viewers into her extreme left-wing liberal view point. Sadly, waaaaay too many of them are dumb enough to fall for her disinformation. The hysterical women in her audience screaming like she was the Beatles or Elvis appearing on the Ed Sullivan show is totally revolting.

64 posted on 04/11/2006 8:35:38 PM PDT by jamaly (I evacuate early and often!)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
Finally, she gets some respect from me! You Go Oprah!
65 posted on 04/11/2006 8:35:39 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
I imagine Oprah feels good about her money because she worked hard for it. Those who feel guilty about it probably do so for good reason.
66 posted on 04/11/2006 8:35:47 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Revolting cat!
Everything I needed to know about Oprah I learned working with her on the movie "Beloved".

She insisted that the whole crew (100+) be Black. When the union told her that she will get those best qualified no matter what color they are she had a fit. It required the union (IATSE) to try and find as many Blacks as possible to work the shoot while maintaining a degree of fairness.

During the shooting she would throw fits if she didn't like something. Her entourage would number 12-20 people, most who were straphangers and yes people.

She gave me some dirty looks but never spoke to me during two months of shooting. I always just ignored her.

She is no different then Danny Glover or JJ or Al Sharpton except that she is pandering to a larger audience.

No2...
67 posted on 04/11/2006 8:37:40 PM PDT by No2much3 (I did not ask for this user name, but I will keep it !)
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To: cyborg
Why would one rich person ask Oprah if SHE feels guilty? Does that person feel guilty also?

Rich people DO feel guilty.:

"I had taken one of my wealthy friends with me. She said, 'Don't you just feel guilty? Don't you just feel terrible?'

That's why the Hollywood activist types are always so cause-driven - they have to atone for their wealth. It's a burden to be wealthy, when the everyday person isn't. You feel tremendous guilt. But, apparently, Oprah doesn't. Maybe she feels that her generosity to causes more than atones for her wealth.

68 posted on 04/11/2006 8:37:51 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Soon Israel will be just a memory.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

She shouldn`t feel guilty about being rich, she should feel guilty about getting paid for doing absolutely nothing of value at all for society. A guy cleaning a latrine does more than this cow. Oprah goes off the air nobody is going to give a damn, but someone who has to go to the bathroom is going to be mightly ticked off if there ain`t no toilet paper.


69 posted on 04/11/2006 8:37:58 PM PDT by Screamname (Pray for me, Hillary is my Senator.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

LOL, her inner Republican is crying out. :)


70 posted on 04/11/2006 8:38:43 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: starbase

That was Morgan Freeman, not Lou Gossett and the movie was 'Lean On Me'. Lou Gossett was in 'The Principal', but he only played a security guard. Jim Belushi was the actual principal in that one. :)

'Stand By Me' was based on a Steven King short story about a bunch of kids that go see a dead body and 'find themselves' along the way. Good movie with a great cast, but other than the similar title, nothing to do with the others.


71 posted on 04/11/2006 8:39:45 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I wouldn't call her show 'trash TV'. It's certainly not on the low level of Maury Povich or Jerry Springer.


72 posted on 04/11/2006 8:41:44 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Soon Israel will be just a memory.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Well, it was after all her capacity to learn from experience that made her a success.


73 posted on 04/11/2006 8:43:38 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now (Bush ignores his Bush Doctrine to destroy world terrorism's training grounds. No Palestinian state!)
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To: fso301
I imagine Oprah feels good about her money because she worked hard for it.

Hmmmmm.... I'm not sure I agree with the working hard part. Unless you consider pandering to an audience of middle-class, angst ridden, white women work! LOL!

74 posted on 04/11/2006 8:44:51 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Oops! Needless to say I don't pay much attention to movies and actors!


75 posted on 04/11/2006 8:45:04 PM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Pratesi sheets?

I sleep just fine in my on-sale "Linens and Things" sheets.


76 posted on 04/11/2006 8:45:29 PM PDT by Mears
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To: starbase
So she might want to consider what actions she will be proud of in this life, sleeping on her expensive sheets, or building a school for someone.

Clueless socialists can't read either.

The article says she is building a school.

Just for your information, she owes the world nothing and anything anyone does or does not in life is self serving.
Yes, even suicide.

77 posted on 04/11/2006 8:46:52 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

LOL, yes, navel gazing can be exhausting.


78 posted on 04/11/2006 8:47:19 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: tickmeister
I still say that a person who goes to the poorest country on earth and starts a business, hires one employee and pays him a wage that will allow him escape poverty does more good for humanity than a hundred Mother Theresa's who do nothing but pray for the poor and hold their hand while they starve.

Please don't disparage Mother Theresa. Who are you, Christopher Hitchens? If Mother Theresa did nothing more than pray for the poor & hold their hand, it would be more than most of us do. As it was, she housed them, and fed them, and clothed them - AND held their hand & prayed for them.

79 posted on 04/11/2006 8:47:28 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Soon Israel will be just a memory.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Rich people usually spend lots of money and it trickles down. I remember years ago when old man Forbes threw himself a million dollar birthday and everyone one was disgusted at the waste of money. Most of that money went right on down the line like ripples in a pool.


80 posted on 04/11/2006 8:47:31 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Constantine XIII
LOL, her inner Republican is crying out. :)

LOL, yeah.

Just listen to your inner self, Opie. Vote Republican, you know you want to. LOL!

81 posted on 04/11/2006 8:48:11 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Mears
Pratesi sheets?

I've never even HEARD of Pratesi sheets.

82 posted on 04/11/2006 8:49:36 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Soon Israel will be just a memory.)
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To: Mears
I sleep just fine in my on-sale "Linens and Things" sheets.

My, aren't we high class. I sleep on Martha Stewart “designer” sheets from K-Mart. LOL.

83 posted on 04/11/2006 8:50:26 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Well, she's right. Wealth is a good thing.


84 posted on 04/11/2006 8:50:57 PM PDT by TBP
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To: higgmeister
Clueless socialists can't read either. The article says she is building a school. Just for your information, she owes the world nothing and anything anyone does or does not in life is self serving. Yes, even suicide.

Either? You make it sound like you have already made one point. What was it?

And I never said she owed anyone anything, nor have I supported socialism.

And I disagree with your point that all actions are self serving, I don't think you can prove that, why don't you try?

My point was about philosophy, and that our actions are just that, actions. If you have the ability to help someone and you don't, then you have performed an action (that of not helping the person in question). This is a fact of life, your snide hints cannot change that.

If she's building a school then goody goody. It's still just a few buildings, a BILLION dollars can do a lot more.

But my post was about the equivalence of actions and inactions, not socialism. You're seeing what you want to respond to.
85 posted on 04/11/2006 8:55:04 PM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Lurking in Kansas
She said, 'Don't you just feel guilty? Don't you just feel terrible?' I said, 'No, I don't. I do not know how me being destitute is going to help them.'

She's right. Being poor won't help her help those destitute folks she saw on her trip to Africa. Maybe she could give some to help the poor? Oh, wait. She does.

Then I said when we got home, 'I'm going home to sleep on my Pratesi sheets right now and I'll feel good about it.' "

She certainly worked her way up from abject poverty, she's worked hard for it. And she does use her wealth to help.

86 posted on 04/11/2006 8:55:45 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: tickmeister
hires one employee and pays him a wage that will allow him escape poverty does more good for humanity than a hundred Mother Theresa's who do nothing but pray for the poor and hold their hand while they starve.

Replay!

87 posted on 04/11/2006 8:56:25 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Damn, she is smarter than she liberally behaves... is it an act?... I'm confused; I honestly believe the bitch is evil.


88 posted on 04/11/2006 8:56:26 PM PDT by Porterville (Si Se Puede!!! We can stop businesses hiring illegals!!! Si Se Puede!!!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I've never even HEARD of Pratesi sheets.

My, my, what kind of rich Republican are you?? Never heard of Pratesi? We are going to kick you out of the Country Club, darling.

89 posted on 04/11/2006 8:57:57 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Not disparaging Mother Theresa. Simply saying that successful business owner does more for humanity than she did. Where did she get the money to feed and house the poor? Donations from folks who did something to earn the money. As the old saying goes, pray in one hand and s--t in the other and see which one fills up first.

Sorry if that sounds harsh. It's just what I believe.


90 posted on 04/11/2006 8:58:17 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: Porterville
Damn, she is smarter than she liberally behaves... is it an act?... I'm confused; I honestly believe the bitch is evil.

See my post #60 above.

91 posted on 04/11/2006 9:00:28 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

A wealthy Moonbat is just a rich Moonbat..


92 posted on 04/11/2006 9:12:23 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: starbase
If you have the ability to help someone and you don't, then you have performed an action (that of not helping the person in question).

And that inaction is self serving.

If a person builds a school that is self serving because the person can feel proud and gets praise.

Think of any action or inaction, then look at motivation and you will find that there is always a selfish motivation.

Audy Murphy charged the German platoon because he couldn't stand the thought of his men being killed.

The man rushes into the burning building because he can't stand to hear the baby crying. If another man runs away it is because of his selfish need to save himself.

93 posted on 04/11/2006 9:13:11 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: starbase
If she's building a school then goody goody. It's still just a few buildings, a BILLION dollars can do a lot more.

It sounds like you think wealthy people must "help" the poor. Those are the seeds of Socialism. It should be enough that the trickle-down effect of her wealth put tens and even hundreds-of-thousands of people to work. If you took away Oprah, a million people might starve.

Conversely if you give handouts to the poor, you reinforce their choices that allowed them to be poor and allow their mental disease to continue.

94 posted on 04/11/2006 9:25:47 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: higgmeister
Well you make a good defense of the claim that all actions are self serving. I just see one tiny little flaw with it. You assert that a person can do something generous, like build a school, because they want to feel proud and receive praise.

But in the case of anonymous contributions (quite common) there is no praise to be had. That leaves your assertion that the person wants to feel good. But we can never prove what all people want, nor what they feel, when they perform any given action. You must fill that point in with your assertions as to what they feel.

And that is the flaw in your defense, you can only assert what the person feels when giving, but you can never prove what they feel, because each person's feelings are their own.

Nothing makes it impossible for a person to give, or sacrifice, with no feelings of personal gain whatsoever.

So we cannot say that all actions are self serving, because we could not demonstrate that assertion. Just as you can't prove a negative, so you cannot claim to attest to what all people are feeling in all things they do. It can't be demonstrated, therefore it can't be claimed.
95 posted on 04/11/2006 9:30:01 PM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: starbase
But in the case of anonymous contributions (quite common) there is no praise to be had

But the person still feels proud of himself.

How many heros have you heard that said, "I just had to do it, if I hadn't I wouldn't have been able to live with myself?"

96 posted on 04/11/2006 9:34:38 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: starbase
Nothing makes it impossible for a person to give, or sacrifice, with no feelings of personal gain whatsoever.

I can't agree. If they don't feel good about giving they don't give.

If they do it for a tax break with no good feeling, the selfish motive is to reduce their tax burden.

Inside anything anyone does there is a self serving motivation.

97 posted on 04/11/2006 9:38:39 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: higgmeister

Signing off for now.


98 posted on 04/11/2006 9:40:50 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas; my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Not only have I never heard of Pratesi sheets....I do NOT even know the NAME of the sheets we sleep on.....just not something important in MY life....


99 posted on 04/11/2006 10:03:07 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

"I wouldn't call her show 'trash TV'. It's certainly not on the low level of Maury Povich or Jerry Springer."

She cleaned her act up after many years of garbage along those lines pumped into peoples heads for ratings.


100 posted on 04/11/2006 10:20:59 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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