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September 1998 Document: Secret Research Programs Related to WMD (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website ^ | April 11 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 04/11/2006 8:47:53 PM PDT by jveritas

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To: MNJohnnie

You have to realize that for lib journalists and other media hacks, this is a dream destroyed. It means that the edifice of lies they propagated and disseminated about Bush lying us into war has been totally demolished. They're probably still hoping these docs are forgeries or that the translations are faulty. The fact is different translators, working independently, have read these docs and have come to the same conclusion.

I'm sure many libs are still too stunned to realize that Bush was right and they were wrong. The others who have realized it are having difficulties admitting it to themselves and coming to grips with it. Libs totally wrong again...what a shock (he,he).

101 posted on 04/12/2006 2:18:25 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping.

102 posted on 04/12/2006 4:22:58 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Tolerance of evil is not virtue.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Thank you for the ping; amazing stuff and we need to e-mail to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

103 posted on 04/12/2006 4:24:22 AM PDT by Peach
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To: tobyhill; MNJohnnie; All
This document will destroy the Washington Post latest story. Here there is no denial whatsoever that Saddam kept the Secret Research Programs for WMD. I think we need to get this story out urgently.
104 posted on 04/12/2006 5:20:02 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: eyespysomething; All
For some reason the link to the document in my original post is connecting. Here is the link to document:


105 posted on 04/12/2006 5:28:45 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: eyespysomething

Here you go:
Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert


An American military team hunting for unconventional weapons in Iraq, the Mobile Exploitation Team Alpha, or MET Alpha, which found the scientist, declined to identify him, saying they feared he might be subject to reprisals. But they said that they considered him credible and that the material unearthed over the last three days at sites to which he led them had proved to be precursors for a toxic agent that is banned by chemical weapons treaties.

The officials' account of the scientist's assertions and the discovery of the buried material, which they described as the most important discovery to date in the hunt for illegal weapons, supports the Bush administration's charges that Iraq continued to develop those weapons and lied to the United Nations about it. Finding and destroying illegal weapons was a major justification for the war.


The team, with vehicles and supplies from the 101st Airborne Division, went out on its own to survey other sites and pursue the tip about the buried containers and the scientist. After completing a lengthy survey of one installation, Mr. Gonzales and other team members from the Defense Intelligence Agency's Chemical Biological Intelligence Support Team decided to try to find the scientist.

Mr. Gonzales tracked down the scientist's note, which had never been formally analyzed and was still in a brigade headquarters, along with the scientist's address, military officials said.

The next morning, MET Alpha weapons experts found the scientist at home, along with some documents from the program and samples he had buried in his backyard and at other sites.

The scientist has told MET Alpha members that because Iraq's unconventional weapons programs were highly compartmented, he only had firsthand information about the chemical weapons sector in which he worked, team members said.

But he has given the Americans information about other unconventional weapons activities, they said, as well as information about Iraqi weapons cooperation with Syria, and with terrorist groups, including Al Qaeda. It was not clear how the scientist knew of such a connection.

Iraqi researchers were ordered to destroy experiments ahead of U.N. searches

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Six Iraqi scientists working at different Baghdad research institutions were ordered to destroy some bacteria and equipment and hide more in their homes before visits from U.N. weapons inspectors in the months leading up to the war, the scientists told The Associated Press.

In separate interviews, all of the scientists said they were involved in civilian research projects and none knew of any programs for weapons of mass destruction. It was not clear why their materials, ostensibly for nonmilitary research, were ordered destroyed.

But their accounts indicate the government of Saddam Hussein may have had advance knowledge of at least some of the inspectors' visits, as the United States suspected, and that the former Iraqi regime was deeply concerned about any material that could raise the suspicion of U.N. experts.

"An hour or two before the inspectors came to the university, I got my orders from the chairman," said a biochemistry professor at Saddam University for Science and Engineering.

"The order was to hide anything that might make the inspectors suspicious. Any bacterium, any fungus. I destroyed seven petri dishes in the autoclave and I put the others in the trunk of my car."

He said the petri dishes held Staphylococcus and E. coli bacteria and a fungus that can cause severe skin problems -- all commonly used for experiments.

The scientist and several others would only speak on condition of anonymity.

While U.S. troops are firmly in control of the Iraqi capital, university officials, some of them linked by blood to Saddam, remain in their academic positions and scientists fear they could be fired if they are discovered providing information that slights their bosses.

Saddam University's assistant dean, Ameer Abbas Ameer, said inspectors visited his university three times, checking the chemistry, biology and physics departments. He denied ordering professors and researchers to destroy or hide materials.

"The inspectors never found anything because there wasn't anything to find," he said. "They were even joking about it when they were here. They were never serious. You don't search for weapons of mass destruction under the carpet."

But the professor and other scientists said orders came from Ameer's office, through the department chairman, to hide and destroy materials when the inspectors were on their way.

"The chairman told us not to answer questions from any inspectors, to go to the cafeteria and stay there until they left," the professor said. "They were afraid. What they were afraid of, I don't know."

President Bush claimed during his State of the Union address that Iraqi spies had penetrated the U.N. inspections. While some inspectors privately suspect as much, none of the inspection teams found any firm evidence to support the president's claim.

"Clearly we were well aware that the Iraqis were trying to figure out our inspection plans and we took many practicable precautions against that," said Ewen Buchanan, spokesman for the U.N. inspectors. He said information was handled on a "need to know" basis and precautions included "silent briefings" between inspectors to elude any listening devices the Iraqis may have placed at U.N. offices in Baghdad.


106 posted on 04/12/2006 5:30:04 AM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: grey_whiskers
Oh Nooooo, LOL... I am not nearly as powerful as you think :) I am just your humble freeper.
107 posted on 04/12/2006 5:37:00 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
"That report said the trailers were "impractical for biological agent production," lacking 11 components that would be crucial for making bioweapons. Instead, the trailers were "almost certainly designed and built for the generation of hydrogen," the survey group reported.
The group's report and members of the technical team also dismissed the notion that the trailers could be easily modified to produce weapons."

A little critical reading shows the inconsistencies with the title compared to fact. No where does it state that the trailers was impossible to be used to make Bio weapons just that it lacked 11 components and the word "easily" is very subjective.
108 posted on 04/12/2006 7:03:16 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: jveritas

109 posted on 04/12/2006 7:03:46 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: jveritas


110 posted on 04/12/2006 7:05:17 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie
See the NY Times finally had to acknowlege Jveritas work?

Of course, the question of every Freeper is, "Why is the NYT not doing this research themselves?" Why are the media, who are always demanding release of government documents, so uninterested in this stuff? Is it because they fear the documents will confirm Bush's (and Clinton's, by the way) statements about Iraq WMD programs?
111 posted on 04/12/2006 7:10:16 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: tobyhill

I hope that the liberal media opens the WMD issue again, now we have the documents, this one in particular, that destroy their lies and prove that President Bush was right all along to remove Saddam Regime form power.

112 posted on 04/12/2006 7:15:44 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
This particular document is a very important one. It proves that President Bush (and yes Clinton before him) that Saddam always possessed program of WMD, he never stopped it, and he was waiting for the opportune moment to go into mass production of WMD.

This document is the truth that will shine on to liberals and their media and expose the lies that they have been spewing in the last three years.

113 posted on 04/12/2006 7:31:53 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Calpernia

Did you happen to look at the byline for that previous post from April 2003?

Yeah, that's her.

114 posted on 04/12/2006 7:37:39 AM PDT by GEC
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What is who?

115 posted on 04/12/2006 7:41:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: jveritas; SJackson; Thunder 6; P-Marlowe; OrthodoxPresbyterian; blue-duncan; Blueflag; LTCJ; ...

This is amazing exoneration of those of us who have steadfastly held that Saddam had the capacity to make just-in-time chemical weapons, and that he had the capacity to make small-quantity-WMDs to put in the hands of terrorists for use against the U.S.

This totally backs President Bush's decision to take out Iraq.

This might just be your most important find yet.

116 posted on 04/12/2006 7:44:52 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: Captain Ed

This is a very important one Captain.

117 posted on 04/12/2006 7:45:22 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: xzins

I think on the WMD issue this is the most important document revealed so far.

118 posted on 04/12/2006 7:52:44 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Calpernia

The byline of the article that you linked to from the NYT in 2003.

The author was embedded with the 101st Airborne.

Her name is Judith Miller.

Ring any bells?

119 posted on 04/12/2006 8:06:21 AM PDT by GEC
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Not really.

120 posted on 04/12/2006 8:10:03 AM PDT by Calpernia (
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