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The Star-Strangled Banner (NY Times Opinion Page Says the National Anthem is "Overrated")
NY Times ^ | 4/12/2006 | Lawrence Downes

Posted on 04/12/2006 11:20:33 AM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: Pyro7480

Who are we fooling? Let's just change it to The Mexican National Anthem, "La Cucaracha".


61 posted on 04/12/2006 11:45:26 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Billthedrill

Yoko would get it then I assume.


62 posted on 04/12/2006 11:45:35 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Pyro7480

What should we sing, Old Black Joe?


63 posted on 04/12/2006 11:45:38 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Mikey_1962
Irving Berlin wrote God Bless America

...and Irving Berlin dedicated all the royalties from God Bless America to the Boy Scouts Of America!!

Don't tell the ACLU and the libs!!

Hilarious!!

64 posted on 04/12/2006 11:46:25 AM PDT by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: sinkspur
It is. I'm now, officially, confused as hell.

LOL - me too!
65 posted on 04/12/2006 11:46:39 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: elc
Hmm. I'm torn on this one. I love what the Star Bangled Banner stands for. But I can't actually stand the song itself. I've always preferred both God Bless America and America the Beautiful.

Exactly. Love the sentiment, hate the song. I want a national anthem that gets the blood up. This is why the French, for all their faults, have the best anthem. You can sing the Marseillaise marching into battle. The SSB you just can't.

Don't get me started on the flag.

66 posted on 04/12/2006 11:47:00 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Borges

Francis Scott Key wrote it as a poem, not a song. It was only later set to music. When the character in Angels in America made the comment about how it the song was written poorly (paraphrase), he was displaying his ignorance of this fact. No surprise there.


67 posted on 04/12/2006 11:47:05 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: sinkspur

I have no problem -- NO PROBLEM -- with the military aspects of The Star Spangled Banner, which is one of the things about the song that drives so many liberals mad. I find the song inspiring, particularly when accompanied by visuals of uniformed military personnel and finished with a flyover.

But . . . every single time I hear Ray Charles' version of America, a tear comes to my eye and I say: that song -- America (the Beautiful) should be our National Anthem.

The problem with choosing one over the other is that the songs deal with different aspects of America that are equally important: The SSB is an in-your-face, this is the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave and Don't Tread on Me and Live Free or Die and we're even coming over there to Kick the Kaiser, kind of song. Frankly, that's the one I want to hear when the flag is raised at the Olympics.

America the Beautiful is about those quiet moments when you look around and see how truly blessed we are as a nation -- thanks, in great part, to those who serve our country with a Star Spangled Banner Attitude. That's the song I want to hear to open a school PTA meeting, or possibly even a baseball game.

Does America the Beautiful has some official status -- the official hymn or something? I seem to think it does, but can't find anything with a quick i'net search.

And even as a Southerner, at the risk of inflaming the Confederates in the Attic . . . I get all verklempt over The Battle Hymn of the Republic as well.


68 posted on 04/12/2006 11:47:23 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred)
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To: Emmet Fitzhume

I hate them so much that I don't even like going to their website, because I don't want them to get money from those ads. :)


69 posted on 04/12/2006 11:47:49 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Heyworth

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE FLAG!?


70 posted on 04/12/2006 11:47:51 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I'm guessing that context would reveal that line to either be a joke or an intentional depiction of an ignorant character. In any case the music doesn't fit the lyrics.


71 posted on 04/12/2006 11:48:16 AM PDT by Borges
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To: zarf
I always wanted the Rupert Holmes song "Timothy" to be the national anthem when I was in junior high. The teachers wrote my parents that I needed counseling.

No doubt those letters were returned with "No such name at this address or on this planet for that matter" stamped all over the envelopes.

72 posted on 04/12/2006 11:48:33 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Borges
The Star Spangled Banner is a very bad piece of prosody

I guess we'll agree to disagree
73 posted on 04/12/2006 11:48:59 AM PDT by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: Old Professer
What should we sing, Old Black Joe?

LOL - there's a song I haven't heard in about 30 years...
74 posted on 04/12/2006 11:49:05 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Polyxene

You got my vote.


75 posted on 04/12/2006 11:49:08 AM PDT by jbenedic2 (Nothing new for the New York Times)
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To: Scoutmaster

And even Yankees have to admit how pretty Dixie is.


76 posted on 04/12/2006 11:49:25 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Pyro7480

The America hating leftists sole problem withTSSB is that it is excessively patriotic. They would not complain about the tune if the lyrics paid homage to leftist screeds.


77 posted on 04/12/2006 11:50:16 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Pyro7480
We had to memorize the whole song (all verses) at the Academy. I think people would have a greater appreciation if they even knew there were more verses, let alone actually read them. My favorite is the fourth verse...

The Star Spangled Banner
By Francis Scott Key, 1814

O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever when free-men shall stand
Between their lov'd home and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust!”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

78 posted on 04/12/2006 11:50:40 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: Stone Mountain

Talk about un-PC! I'm a cominnnnnn!


79 posted on 04/12/2006 11:51:15 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Pyro7480
Ahh, I dunno...I know there are other patroitic songs out there, but I really do love the Star Spangled Banner.

I have a question though...I have been searching for a long time for a version where all four verses are sung. Does anyone know where I might find such a version? Thanks very much!
80 posted on 04/12/2006 11:51:20 AM PDT by MrBlueSky2005
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