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ATF rids Univ. of ninja threat (University of Georgia)
Red and Black ^ | 4-12-2006 | CAROLINE ERVIN

Posted on 04/12/2006 1:02:51 PM PDT by Cagey

ATF agents are always on alert for anything suspicious — including ninjas.

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm agents, on campus Tuesday for Project Safe Neighborhoods training, detained a “suspicious individual” near the Georgia Center, University Police Chief Jimmy Williamson said.

Jeremiah Ransom, a sophomore from Macon, was leaving a Wesley Foundation pirate vs. ninja event when he was detained.

After being held in investigative detention, he was found to have violated no criminal laws and was not arrested.

“It was surreal,” Ransom said. “I was jogging from Wesley to Snelling when I heard someone yell ‘freeze.’”

Ransom said he thought a friend was playing a joke before he realized officers had guns drawn and pointed at him.

ATF agents had noticed Ransom’s suspicious behavior and clothing and gave chase, apprehending him, Williamson said.

“Agents noticed someone wearing a bandanna across the face and acting in a somewhat suspicious manner, peeping around the corner,” said ATF special agent in charge Vanessa McLemore.

Ransom was wearing black sweatpants and an athletic T-shirt with one red bandanna covering the bottom half of his face and another covering the top of his head, Williamson said.

“Seeing someone with something across the face, from a federal standpoint — that’s not right,” McLemore said, explaining why agents believed something to be amiss.

Agents noticed Ransom peering around a corner and said when police sirens sounded, he took off running.

After chasing Ransom and identifying themselves, ATF agents detained him, turning him over once University Police arrived, McLemore said.

Ransom said Williamson told him the incident should not have been handled in such a manner and he would file a complaint with the ATF.

“I was in shock, to say the least,” Ransom said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: academialist; atf; banglist; donutwatch; educationlist; highereducation; jackbootedthugs; jbt; jbts; libertarians; students; uga
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To: Cagey
They look like banditos to me. I don't see any badges, jackets, face masks, kevlar helmets, dogs, grenade launchers, armored personnel carriers, flamethrowers or select-fire weapons that might help me identify them as law enforcement officers.

Why do we have federal alphabet-agency enforcers doing neighborhood watch indoctrination duty anyway?

This outfit needs to be defunded and disbanded.

51 posted on 04/12/2006 1:27:33 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Joe 6-pack
the ATF is rounding up the last of the Heaven's Gate folks....

Oh man, that's funny!

Nike lost some of their best customers when they offed themselves, that's for sure.

52 posted on 04/12/2006 1:29:02 PM PDT by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Cagey
“Seeing someone with something across the face, from a federal standpoint — that’s not right,” McLemore said, explaining why agents believed something to be amiss.

Somebody please find where there is a legitimate federal interest in someone obscuring the face -- at least when not done in a bank. Also note that they were on campus for training on the Safe Streets program and not to implement it during their lunch hour.

The picture in post #2 PMO to no end...

53 posted on 04/12/2006 1:29:41 PM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: Cagey
This photo, taken by a student’s camera phone, shows ATF officials pinning down Jeremiah Ransom in front of Snelling dining hall. He was coming from a pirate vs. ninja event at the Wesley Foundation and was not arrested. (Kathleen Ruark | The Red & Black)

He should sue for assault. That's hardly a reasonable search they've got going on in that photo. As far as not being under arrest, he doesn't exactly appear free to go in that photo either.

Where are the marches and rallies with signs reading "BATFErs Off Campus"? Hmmm?

54 posted on 04/12/2006 1:30:44 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Supernatural
Hooray for the ATF. Maybe they will get a medal for this one.

Certainly, commendations and promotions for all involved. That's the BATFE way.

55 posted on 04/12/2006 1:31:35 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Cagey

WORST NINJA EVER!


56 posted on 04/12/2006 1:32:02 PM PDT by Daus
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To: Cagey
pirate vs. ninja event

Maybe it is against the law being a nerd..atf is on top of it..

57 posted on 04/12/2006 1:33:11 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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Seeing someone with something across the face, from a federal standpoint — that’s not right.

Apparently no federal agents anywhere have seen any of the illegal immigrant protests. Do the live on Mars?


58 posted on 04/12/2006 1:34:11 PM PDT by a_different_conservative
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To: El Gato

You make some very good points.

I'd love to be on a jury trying that case.


59 posted on 04/12/2006 1:34:16 PM PDT by Supernatural (When they come a wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: mysterio
"Your papers, please, citizen."

Real ID Act | USA

60 posted on 04/12/2006 1:35:58 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: Cagey

Those ATF guys couldn't have caught him if he kept running, but then they would have taken him out with a bazooka or something like that. What a bunch of losers those dudes are....I smell a lawsuit coming, holding a cuffed "prisoner" with a knee to the neck...what jerks!


61 posted on 04/12/2006 1:36:10 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Cagey
The picture should be sufficient to prosecute the asshole for excessive force and battery.
62 posted on 04/12/2006 1:37:06 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: flying Elvis
And why were no pirates arrested?

Clearly there is a double standard for their fellow worshippers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

63 posted on 04/12/2006 1:37:54 PM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: flying Elvis
And why were no pirates arrested?

After looking at their offensive production, it was determined that they are not a serious threat.


64 posted on 04/12/2006 1:38:23 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Cagey

Every agent in that picture should go to Federal P.M.I.T.A. Prison for at least a couple of years.


65 posted on 04/12/2006 1:39:47 PM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: Cagey
"The Wesley Foundation Would Like To Announce It's Inaugural "Ninja vs BATF: Loser Get's His Neck Snapped" event.
66 posted on 04/12/2006 1:42:46 PM PDT by Daus
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To: Cagey
Gee, too bad we can't have this hyper-vigilant, quasi-military federal law enforcement heroism DOWN AT THE BORDER!

I hope this kid's lawyer puts a real hurt on the F-troop.

67 posted on 04/12/2006 1:45:03 PM PDT by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA})
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To: TalonDJ

Clearly, this guy wasn't much of a ninja or he wouldn't have got his butt kicked by the feds.


68 posted on 04/12/2006 1:49:37 PM PDT by JenB
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To: USNBandit
“Seeing someone with something across the face, from a federal standpoint — that’s not right,”

Unless of course your are an illegal alien......

Or a BATFE agent.

Then you can even mask your badge number.

BTW, notice any badges on those "ATF agents?" in the photo in post 2? How was the guy supposed to know they weren't a couple of thugs, er criminal thugs, out to do him harm. Oh I forgot, schools are generally gun free zones, so anyone pointing a gun at you at a school must be assumed to be law enforcement or a state or federal agent.

69 posted on 04/12/2006 1:53:36 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Sloth
Every agent in that picture should go to Federal P.M.I.T.A. Prison for at least a couple of years.

These agents WILL be commended and promoted for this if history is any measure.

70 posted on 04/12/2006 1:57:07 PM PDT by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA})
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To: Cagey
Equal time for pirates! Image hosting by Photobucket
71 posted on 04/12/2006 1:59:03 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: AngryJawa
Gee, too bad we can't have this hyper-vigilant, quasi-military federal law enforcement heroism DOWN AT THE BORDER!

Oh no they might get hurt. The federales and Mexican Army types in the pay of the coyotes and drug gangs may shoot back, in fact they usually shoot first.

72 posted on 04/12/2006 1:59:49 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: a_different_conservative
Apparently no federal agents anywhere have seen any of the illegal immigrant protests. Do the live on Mars?

No but if you keep saying stuff like that, they will make an inspection tour of Uranus.

73 posted on 04/12/2006 2:02:01 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Cagey
Nice to see the BATFags doing such a wonderful job.

Salute to F Troop.

74 posted on 04/12/2006 2:04:05 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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To: Cagey

As I suspect, the Wesley Foundation is a Christian organization:

http://www.ugawesley.org/


75 posted on 04/12/2006 2:05:52 PM PDT by montanus
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To: Ditto

Ouch...


76 posted on 04/12/2006 2:07:33 PM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: Cagey

Violent crime in America is down by 60% per capita since the Republicans came into office. People try to claim its because of a demographic shift but because of demographics we should be seeing more, not less crime with the baby boomer's sons becoming young men.

As a result the government police forces are desperate to find new 'crimes' and uses for themselves. New crime - dressing up as a ninja.


77 posted on 04/12/2006 2:08:18 PM PDT by ran15
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To: Cagey
“Seeing someone with something across the face, from a federal standpoint — that’s not right,” McLemore said...

I see... I suppose we have to start living our lives by whatever the Great Federal Government deems right or wrong.

78 posted on 04/12/2006 2:10:54 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Cagey
And notice that in the photo they have the kid handcuffed yet they still have to have the obligatory knee smashing the fact into the concrete maneuver.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
-- George Orwell, 1984

79 posted on 04/12/2006 2:11:30 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: ran15
As a result the government police forces are desperate to find new 'crimes' and uses for themselves. New crime - dressing up as a ninja.

It is one of the basic problems with a "standing army." The troops get bored and start harrassing the innocent.

We had a Revolution because of this kid of stuff.
80 posted on 04/12/2006 2:16:15 PM PDT by montanus
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To: Sloth; Cagey
Federal P.M.I.T.A. Prison

Lol!

81 posted on 04/12/2006 2:33:58 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Cagey

Nice. We've got agents of the Federal gubermint roughing up college kids while millions of criminal aliens march openly in the streets.

On another note, when are our mealy-mouthed congress idiots gonna actually do something about ATF besides holding quasi-annual hearings about the abuses?


82 posted on 04/12/2006 2:47:40 PM PDT by jrp
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To: Cagey
"Seeing someone with something across the face, from a federal standpoint — that’s not right,”

Remember that if you have asthma, etc. and wear a mask to mow the lawn or when it is cold & snowing and you wear scarf over your face. Just make sure that ATF or any other federal agents are around.

83 posted on 04/12/2006 3:30:48 PM PDT by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: flying Elvis

Because pirates don't wear "something across the face", just over their eye. That is ok by federal standard.


84 posted on 04/12/2006 3:33:16 PM PDT by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: USNBandit

Wait a minute the guy on the left has "something across the face" doesn't he know that "from a federal standpoint — that’s not right?” He needs to be clean shaven or the ATF will make an example of him too.


85 posted on 04/12/2006 3:39:34 PM PDT by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: Rodney King

I am guessing to see which group of dorks, nerds, geeks, etc. can pick up the most girls. They didn't invite the trekkies cause they new the trekkies would win.


86 posted on 04/12/2006 3:41:39 PM PDT by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: jrp
On another note, when are our mealy-mouthed congress idiots gonna actually do something about ATF besides holding quasi-annual hearings about the abuses?

Just as soon as Republican's are in charge. You know, the "Adults". Blackbird.

87 posted on 04/12/2006 3:43:35 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Diapers, like Politicians, need regular changing for the same reason!)
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To: Cagey

Hard to pick the ass clown of the day award for this one...Ninja geek or ATF. Coin toss with ATF as a heavy favorite.


88 posted on 04/12/2006 3:44:19 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: gaijin
Has anyone ever heard of the ATF arresting an actual BAD GUY?

When was the last time you heard of ATF raiding a street-gang hangout looking for illegal guns?

89 posted on 04/12/2006 3:44:52 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: Cagey
How the EFF does BATF have ANY jurisdiction to apprehend someone in a mask running? Geez, I run outside in the morning on cold days and wear a mask. Are these @$$holes going to pull a gun on me?

THIS HAS TO STOP. This kid needs to sue these SOB's for about $10 mil each. That will make them stop and think twice.

And before anyone jumps on me, I AM NOT anti- law enforcement. The police do an impossible job against terrible odds. I am against a bunch of Federal "gun cops" arresting a guy in a mask just because they happen to see him running, with NO apparent probable cause whatsoever.

90 posted on 04/12/2006 3:53:54 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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To: traviskicks; Travis McGee

ping i cant post anythnig other then that right now or i will get zapped i'll be back on in an hour or two and post some more of exactly what i think if this and those jackbooted scumsucking dogs


91 posted on 04/12/2006 4:22:26 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: inneroutlaw

Enraging photo and news story ping.


92 posted on 04/12/2006 4:47:02 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Cagey

Did he have his knumbknuts on him? Hic


93 posted on 04/12/2006 5:30:38 PM PDT by Waco
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To: freepatriot32
I've been thinking about this for the last hour or so.

The BATFE agents' reaction is easily explained by the fact that they're afraid of us. That is why they're likely to look like this when we see them.


94 posted on 04/12/2006 6:17:30 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: freepatriot32; albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; Americanwolfsbrother; AlexandriaDuke; ...
See the pic and caption under post number 1.




Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
95 posted on 04/12/2006 6:45:37 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: Cagey

96 posted on 04/12/2006 6:53:20 PM PDT by Hoodat ( Silly Dems, AYBABTU.)
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To: eyespysomething

Athens has changed a lot since I was getting arrested there.


OTOH ... WTF are college kids doing playing "ninja and pirate"? I used to play "sheath the sword," but I get the impression it was a different game.


97 posted on 04/12/2006 6:55:49 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Cagey
The poor kid under the knee of the a$$hole is going to be a bazillionaire, thanks to the kid with the camera phone (who, BTW, is damn lucky he made it out of there without a bootprint on his neck and minus one camera phone!).
98 posted on 04/12/2006 7:20:05 PM PDT by inneroutlaw
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To: Cagey

"And notice that in the photo they have the kid handcuffed yet they still have to have the obligatory knee smashing the face into the concrete maneuver."

That ATFhole needs his walking papers handed to him. I hope this kid sues him for a neck injury.


99 posted on 04/12/2006 7:31:04 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff and the President related?)
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To: inneroutlaw
The poor kid under the knee of the a$$hole is going to be a bazillionaire, thanks to the kid with the camera phone (who, BTW, is damn lucky he made it out of there without a bootprint on his neck and minus one camera phone!).

Does anyone even remember freedom any more?

100 posted on 04/12/2006 7:34:09 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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