Groups help organize immigration rallies

modbee ^ | 4-12-06 | peter prengamen

[LouAvul]

They invoke the names of Martin Luther King Jr. and Cesar Chavez, but the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have marched nationwide are not following one charismatic leader.

Instead, they're loosely guided by Hispanic advocacy groups, churches and labor unions - organizations that have helped transform isolated campaigns in major cities into a broad movement with a coordinated strategy.

"There is no one leader, and that's a good thing," said Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican-American Political Association, a central organizer of rallies in Southern California. "It's a shared leadership among people who we don't even always know."

What began with a national organizational meeting just two months ago has resulted in unions blanketing workers with fliers at hotels, restaurants and stores, Roman Catholic churches accelerating their campaign of preaching to immigrants and pressuring politicians, and Hispanic community leaders working with radio deejays to give protesters detailed instructions: wear white, remain peaceful and be positive. And when marchers were criticized for carrying Mexican flags, organizers quickly spread the word to carry U.S. flags instead.

[LouAvul]

Roman Catholic churches accelerating their campaign

Figures.

[stopem]

ALERT!
The illegal invaders are threatening to shut down our ports, the marxist and communist groups on May 1 are threatening PORT SECURITY!!!!

When port security was told about their threats they said there will be a ton of security on our ports.

FOLKS lets get serious here!

We are talking about people who came here illegally and are now threatening to shut dwn our ports!

And these are people DEMANDING they get amnesty

And our (R) politicians say they will not make them felons?

What do you call threatening to shut down our ports on May 1? Not a felony? That's terroism plain and simple!!

Look at all the names on the list who are supporting the illegals:http://actionla.org/features/view.php?id=472

[Argus]

One thing they all have in common is their devotion to hard-line Stalinism.

[Thrusher]

Don't forget: May 1st is "National Patriotic Imperialistic Capitalist Shopping Spree Day"!

Credit: cripplecreek

[Thrusher]

Don't forget: May 1st is "National Patriotic Imperialistic Capitalist Shopping Spree Day"!

Credit: cripplecreek

[infidel29]

"There is no one leader, and that's a good thing," said Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican-American Political Association, a central organizer of rallies in Southern California. "It's a shared leadership among people who we don't even always know."

Hmm.... no one leader.... shared leadership... sounds like some sort of communal movement or a social netowrk. A movement of the people as it were.

[cripplecreek]

I'm thinking of buying a good ole American flag made in the USA by American workers is a good place to start.

[Right Wing Assault]

I know one hugh leader is ANSWER. Check this out. They are really psyched for this one. Good old May Day.

http://www.internationalanswer.org/

[NormsRevenge]

No leaders, Nativo?

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa speaks outside La Placita Church in Los Angeles, Monday, April 10, 2006, during an immigration rally. (AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian)

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Los Angeles-based Cardinal Roger Mahoney addresses demonstrators during the national day of action for U.S. immigration law reform in Los Angeles, California April 10, 2006. Hundreds of thousands of people rallied in U.S. cities from Boston to Phoenix on Monday, calling for dignity and rights for millions of illegal immigrants. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson

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Protestors hold an 'Uncle Sam' placard during the march for immigrants rights on the National Mall in Washington, April 10, 2006. Tens of thousands of people rallied in U.S. cities from Boston to Phoenix on Monday, waving American flags and banging drums to demand dignity and rights for millions of illegal immigrants. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

Hey, Nativo.. Who is A.N.S.W.E.R. and who do they answer to?

[backhoe]

A fast grab of some samples:

http://jihadwatch.org/

Into the Lions Den, Vital Perspective Infiltrates A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition

Speaking of the affinity and collaboration between the Left and the jihad, don't miss "Into the Lions Den, Vital Perspective Infiltrates A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition" at Vital Perspective:  Comments (15) "Both A.N.S.W.E.R. amd C.A.I.R and their ilk are salivating over the Eurabia example and are keen on applying the same techniques here through laws that hamstring dissent, and of course, through large scale immigration."

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/013728.php

Demonstrations, From Coast to Coast

As an exercise in citizen journalism, we put out a call to readers to attend yesterday's demonstrations in support of illegal immigration, film them, and send us the resulting video. We didn't know what to expect, but the results were gratifying. We got lots of submissions, both of video and photographs. As a result, we've put together a Power Line Video of yesterday's rallies, from Seattle to Washington, D.C., which you can watch here.

In fact, as our video shows, the New York demonstration (like those in some other cities) was organized and controlled in substantial part by International A.N.S.W.E.R., the Communist organization that we have written about many times, most recently here. A.N.S.W.E.R.'s National Coordinator, Brian Becker, was prominent at the New York rally; he is the man in the blue shirt on the right in the photo below. Click to enlarge:

Note A.N.S.W.E.R.'s large "amnesty" banner with the words "Full Rights For All Immigrants!" as well as the Che Guevara banner.

International A.N.S.W.E.R. passed out thousands of mass-produced, yellow and black signs with exactly the same message. You can see them prominently displayed in our video footage from New York.

ARAB LEAGUE AND MEXICO SIGN A COMMUNIQUE

April 10, 2006 11:34 PM 

http://thomistic.blogspot.com

Some of the connections are out in the open, but there are many murky "organizers" whose identity is not revealed. I've gone to some web sites and drawn some connections, like to Workers' World and to Troops Out Now, and earlier, into some Chicanoist sites with ties to Communist organizations. CAIR is calling for active involvement in these protests."

"Rally organizer tied to Marxist party"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060410-094710-4817r.htm

 

Democrats Recruiting at Illegal Immigrant Protests

 

Many interesting characters are showing up at the illegal alien demonstrations against immigration enforcement. Black Panthers. A.N.S.W.E.R. agitators. And...America-bashing Muslim activists.

LGF has lots of background on the militancy of SoundVision's audience. See also Daniel Pipes: "SoundVision.com Visitors Applaud Jerusalem Suicide Bombing."

CAIR and friends have opposed immigration enforcement, border security, and national security profiling initiatives vigorously since 9/11.

Lest you bury your heads in the sand about the radical sabotage of our immigration laws embraced by the CAIR-La Raza-A.N.S.W.E.R.-SEIU-Big Business alliance, I am posting as a reminder the deadly results of our open borders policies--summarized by Steve Camorata of the Center for Immigration Studies:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004954.htm

MUSLIMS FOR OPEN BORDERS

By Michelle Malkin   ·   April 10, 2006 11:00 AM

Illegal alien protest in Detroit. Sunday, April 9, 2006. Second from right is guest speaker Dawud Walid, 34, of Detroit, executive director of Council on American-Islamic Relations-Michigan.

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS GROUP BEHIND IMMIGRANT RALLIES (A.N.S.W.E.R)

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/013711.php

Ready. Aim. Shoot!

Another round of pro-illegal immigration demonstrations is scheduled to take place tomorrow. One of the groups organizing tomorrow's demonstrations is a Communist organization called International A.N.S.W.E.R. A.N.S.W.E.R., which has championed every tyrant from Kim Il John to Fidel Castro to Saddam Hussein, has now taken up the cause of illegal immigration, and was the principal organizer of the massive demonstration in southern California a week or two ago. Unfortunately for A.N.S.W.E.R., the meeting was attended by a couple of bloggers from Vital Perspective, who taped the meeting and reported on it on their site. They shared their audiotape of the proceedings with us, and we have posted a short excerpt on Power Line Video. In this excerpt, you can hear Becker wonder whether there are undercover policemen present (he forgot about bloggers), pose a tough question to his audience, and speculate about how illegal immigrants could be the "catalyst for a broader class struggle, even possibly a revolutionary struggle."

The Dallas Immigration MegaMarch

LGF reader mjolnir910 has photos from the Dallas Immigration MegaMarch.  " A.N.S.W.E.R. is at it again, eh? And the Lamestream Media breathlessly announces that the Government should listen to these people..."

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004946.htm

SCHOOL CREDIT FOR PRO-ILLEGAL KIDS?!

By Michelle Malkin   ·   April 08, 2006 04:59 PM

Monday is national illegal alien day. (List of events here.) Some schools are suspending students who walk out, but not here in the People's Republic of Montgomery County, Md. They're going to earn school credit for skipping school* and protesting enforcement of our immigration laws (via WaPo):

CASA of Maryland is a taxpayer-funded, open-borders organization whose leader made headlines in February when he threatened the children of pro-immigration enforcement advocates:

http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2006/04/leftist-thug-alliance-tradition.html

 

The Leftist & Thug Alliance: A Tradition

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Increasing numbers of westerners are raising alarm over Muslim expansion into liberal democracies. From bloggers, to academics, to various pundits, right of center and former left of center individuals are becoming increasingly concerned over what they see as a potential clash of civilizations. In the mean time, socialist utopians are dismissing the whole hubbub as nothing more than Islamophobic paranoia and typical rightwing bigotry...There is no amount of terrorism, no amount of western Muslim radicalization, no amount of Muslim persecution of others, and no amount of human rights abuse by Muslims, that will shake leftists from their religion of blaming western capitalism.

 

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/013699.php

Not Dhimmitude but attitude, Part Two

Our friend Diana West writes the following in response to my post about her column comparing the Islamic concept of dhimmitude to the attitude of many illegal immigrants in this country: The similarities that really hit home for me lie in the attitudes of the host cultures: Europe and the US. Both are being irreversibly transformed by demographic changes wrought by influxes of peoples, legal and illegal, who are not going to assimilate in such a way as to perpetuate the culture as it exists--existed. But in both Europe and the US it is verboten to notice, discuss, debate, and certainly oppose this epochal--irreversible (Europe) or soon to be (US)--turning point in the history of mankind.

Domestic Terrorist Group Behind Immigrant Rallies

 

José, Can't You See? Communist Linked Groups Push For More SA Student Walkouts

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Source: "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:

What is happening under the radar is that the alien lobby, certain elements of radical Islam, and some on the Left share common goals, tactics, and exploitations of our system and society.

Not a conspiracy, but rather a "coming together on common points."

[visualops]

The commies are gleeful since they get their dream of calling for a "general strike".

[B4Ranch]

It's almost Tea Time.

[Gator113]

My mom raised me not to be a racist.

After 57 years on this rock, I find it very difficult to remember why...........

[Liz]

FREEPER ACTIVISM


EXHIBIT ONE These matches and boycotts by illegals to hurt the economy could be a violation of RICO laws----under RICO, organized activity that deliberately hurts the US economy is prosecutable. Report the activities of these boycott organizing groups to the US Dept of Justice---email ASKDOJ@USDOJ.gov.



EXHIBIT TWO Boycotts could also violate The Hobbs Act if public officials are aidng and abetting these activities----The Hobbs Act covers extortion by public officials, as follows: 2403 Hobbs Act -- Extortion By Force, Violence, or Fear.


The Hobbs Act regulates extortion and robbery, which Congress has determined have a substantial effect on interstate and foreign commerce by reason of their repetition and aggregate effect on the economy. Therefore, the proscribed offenses fall within the category of crimes based on the Commerce Clause whose "de minimis character of individual instances arising under [the] statute is of no consequence." Primary investigative jurisdiction of offenses in 18 U.S.C. § 1951 lies with the FBI.


The Inspector General's Office of Investigations, Division of Labor Racketeering (formerly the Office of Labor Racketeering), United States Department of Labor, is also authorized to investigate violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1951 in labor-management disputes involving the extortion of property from employers by reason of authority conferred on nvestigators as Special Deputy United States Marshals. Supervisory jurisdiction over 18 U.S.C. § 1951 is exercised by the following offices with respect to the offenses noted:


1. Extortion under color of official right or extortion by a public official through misuse of his/her office is supervised by the Public Integrity Section, Criminal Division.

2. Extortion and robbery in labor-management disputes is supervised by the Labor-Management Unit of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section, Criminal Division.


3. All other extortion and robbery offenses not involving public officials or labor-management disputes are supervised by the Terrorism and Violent Crimes Section, Criminal Division.

SOURCE October 1997 Criminal Resource Manual 2403 http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm02403.htm

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EMAIL

enforcement@SEC.gov


ASKdoj@USDOJ.GOV


PHONE ICE 1-866-347-2423 http://www.ice.gov/graphics/about/index.htm

[luckystarmom]

I think we also need to put together a list of companies that do not hire illegal aliens to do their work.

For one thing, I'm pretty sure that In-n-Out Burgers do not hire illegal aliens. It's the one fast food chain that I can go to in San Jose, and they understand what I am saying!!!! They all speak perfect English!!!

If I go to McDonalds, half the time they don't get my order correct. I rarely go to McD's because of this.

[buccaneer81]

My mom raised me not to be a racist. After 57 years on this rock, I find it very difficult to remember why...........

My Mom raised me to be Catholic. After 42 years on this rock, I find it very difficult to remember why.....

[sinkspur]

My Mom raised me to be Catholic. After 42 years on this rock, I find it very difficult to remember why.....

Because you never made your momma's faith your own.

Faith is not about what churchmen do or don't do. It's about your own relationship with the Son of God who saved you.

It would be a very useful thing, over the next three days, to find where you left that relationship and pick it up again.

[sinkspur]

My mom raised me not to be a racist.

After 57 years on this rock, I find it very difficult to remember why...........

She knew that white skin is not better than brown skin, or black skin, or yellow skin.

[DumpsterDiver]

Hey, Nativo.. Who is A.N.S.W.E.R. and who do they answer to?

"There is no one leader, and that's a
good thing. It's a shared leadership
among people who we don't even always
know."

[buccaneer81]

Faith is not about what churchmen do or don't do. It's about your own relationship with the Son of God who saved you.

And my relationship with The Lord is fine. The Catholic Church is lost. I am Christian. I am also an American. A citizen of the nation that has promoted the fairest and best way of life ever known to man. Also the nation that has sent forth millions to spread the word of Jesus far more than any other.

But the RCC is not what Jesus had in mind. Art treasures? Property? Indulgences? All are a big part of the Church. But they don't feed the poor or spread the true word.

If Jesus came back today, he would chase the bishops out.

Time for the Church to realize that we Americans respect our laws. Illegal means illegal.

[sinkspur]

But the RCC is not what Jesus had in mind. Art treasures? Property? Indulgences? All are a big part of the Church. But they don't feed the poor or spread the true word.

Well, the Church wouldn't be able to do some of the good it does without assets to leverage.

The canard of "feeding the poor" is a false one, as even Jesus Himself didn't feed all the poor when He was alive.

If Jesus came back today, he would chase the bishops out.

He might, but you are being presumptuous if you think Jesus would be standing with you against these illegal immigrants.

[Gail Wynand]

If Congress and the President are ultimately only willing to offer a "virtual wall" to prevent unauthorized entry of foreign aliens into this country over our southern border with Mexico, why should the "estimated 11 million" "undocumented' aliens currently living in the US be offered anything more than "virtual amnesty"in return?

"Amnesty": an act by authority by which a pardon is granted to a large number of persons for past transgressions. Interstingly derived from the same root as amnesia.

"Virtual Amnesty". You can stay as long as and only as long as,

a) you have a job no american wants -- if an American shows up at your place of employment and asks for your job at any rate of pay up to 200% of your current wage and such person is ready able and capable of assuming your duties, you can move aside and leave. You have 60 days to find new employment or leave the country;

b) all your pay is reported as income to governmental authority and social security and income tax is properly withheld and paid (aliens are not eligible to receive social security benefits, the money would fund the inadequate SS reserve);

c) you pay all your own expenses and do not receive any public assistance for housing, medical care, food stamsp, aid to dependant children, or public education;

d) if you do receive public assistance, such as for emergency medical care, you will reimburse the full costs of any assistance received; if you are here with a spouse, family or 'domestic partner' de jure, your offspring are not U.S citizens, you waive that right on their behalf by remaining here.;

e) if you have children of school age, public authority will provide you with books, software and programs authorized for home schooling families. Statiistics indicate this is a much effective and valuable educational assistance than participating in public education;

f) you will not engage while in the United States in any political activity;

g) in particular you will not vote or attempt to vote;

h) membership, participation, active support or conspiracy with any organized criminal gang shall be the equivalent of a "third strke" felony. Conviction of same shall mean immediate and permanent deportation or incarceration for life at the option of the government. A criminal history prior to US entry shall be grounds for immediate deportation with a permanent bar to reentry;

i) If you commit any "malum per se" or "specific intent" crimes while present in the U.S, you shall serve your sentence and then be deported with a permanent bar to reentry;

j) At all times, any and all covered persons shall carry upon their person, sufficient and accurate identifying information as to the covered persons, identity, place of residence in the US., country of national citizenship, date of birth, place of birth, names of parents, and dates of entry into the United States; and,

k) At no time shall a covered person occupy, hold, or be compensated for performing any public sector job or position.

Conditions of limited license to remain in the US:

By electing to remain within US territory on or after 30 days after the enactment of this legislation, a covered individual voluntarily waives any protections of law, including any application of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, and consents at any reasonable time and upon any reasonable circumstance, such as but not limited to in any public place at any time, to being detained for a reasonable time without suspicion or other cause by law enforcement in order for governmental authority to verify the persons identity and compliance with these "tempory worker" statutes.

"Jail Tax" All covered persons and only such persons shall be subject to a 10% tax on income earned over and above all other taxes and assessments on income, to fund reimbursement of state and federal penal incarceration of undocumented aliens

Citizenship: If and when an applicant can affirmatively demonstrate 10 continuous years of compliance with the foregoing, or alternatively upon completion of a full term of service with any branch of the Armed Services of the United States resulting in an honorable discharge; and,
If and when the applciant can demonstrate fluency in the English language; and,

If and when the applicant can demonstrate a 12th grade equivalency of knowledge of American history and American literature and American Laws

Said applicant may then apply for American citizenship.

Notwithstanding any of the above, not more than 750,000 complying alien persons shall in any year become citizens of the United States.

[NavySon]

"The only thing you have to lose is your chains."

- Lenin... or was it Clinton?

[Right Wing Assault]

She knew that white skin is not better than brown skin, or black skin, or yellow skin.

Very true. But I cannot say the same for different cultures. When I hear people say that our culture in no better than some other culture, I freak out. I am a "culturist" who believes that certain cultures are defective.

[Right Wing Assault]

The Catholic Church is lost.

The people are the Church. Those who are active that I know are far from lost.

Indulgences? All are a big part of the Church.

Not the last time I looked.

But they don't feed the poor or spread the true word.

No, artwork and property (church buildings?) don't feed the poor. Money collected from the Church feeds the poor. Catholic Charities is huge. (OK, hugh.)

If Jesus came back today, he would chase the bishops out.

Some of them, yeah. He could do the same to ANY clergy from ANY church.

Time for the Church to realize that we Americans respect our laws. Illegal means illegal.

I agree.

[HiJinx]

Nativo Lopez Ping!

Isn't his name really something like Sam or Fred?

[Ladycalif]

Larry. And He hates it.

[NRA2BFree]

"There is no one leader, and that's a good thing," said Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican-American Political Association, a central organizer of rallies in Southern California. "

This man is trouble. He's a VERY angry man and IMO he hates America/Americans. He's got plans to put ALL Mexicans in our government, so we can become a corrupt nation like Mexico.

[TigersEye]

Who are these people? Take a look...

This is not about workers rights or fair immigration policies. It has to do with international communist/socialist orgs looking to gain the political upperhand in the U.S..

Posted by JeffHead Jeff links to Mexica.org's 'after protest' pic fest. You can see there what the marchers thought they were marching for.

A poster for Friday’s march. March 31. This poster lists the Latino orgs that are promoting the protests. They are all communist/socialist front orgs.

Here is my analysis of what is going on behind the scenes.

Here is some evidence that 'amnesty' increases illegal entries. These people knew before the demonstrations that the time was ripe.

Smith Act of 1940 This is the U.S. statute that ought to apply to the organized gathering of tens of thousands of foreign nationals calling for the overthrow of our country.

H.R. 4437 At this link you will find a good exegesis of the only bill that doesn't offer some type of amnesty/pathway to citizenship/excuses for illegal entry. It is harsh on employers but has reasonable protections for employers who verify documents that are later shown to be false. It explains that the databases necessary are already in place. It provides for border security.

Understand that the provision that the protesters say is 'racist,' that makes illegals felons, was inserted by the Dems a short time ago. That clarifies why Hillary happened to discover the immigration issue a week before the marches. Why she demonized Republicans as "making Jesus a criminal."

Keep in mind just who organized these protests. Who provided the tens of thousands of T-shirts, the thousands of professionally made signs, the hours and hours of promotion on Spanish language radio and TV stations. It has been noticed that Islamic orgs names and logos appear on some of these signs as well. Remember that NEA teachers and administrators are the ones who have assisted the march organizers by providing bussing for their students, hoisting Mexican flags at school and overlooking the truancy.

Don't forget that the last two Presidential elections were nearly 50/50. Think about how our Congress is looking for a way to appease these foreign nationals through legislation. No election necessary. The outcome of legalizing 11 million illegals and encouraging more to come will be a solid lock for the left forevermore in national elections. We don’t need an ‘immigration’ bill. We need and want a border security and illegal aliens bill. An immigration/guest worker bill can come after that is done.

Mexico is Rich- Mexican wealthy play American taxpayers for suckers

Good thread for any that missed it. It should really make you mad.

Every dollar spent in U.S. taxes for social services for illegal aliens frees up additional cash to be sent south as part of the annual remittances which provided $20 billion in 2005. According to the CNN news show Lou Dobbs Tonight (3/21/05), "Remittances, as they're called, are expected to become Mexico's primary source of income this year, surpassing the amount of money that Mexico makes on oil exports for the first time ever."

Mayans in Chiapas Region Convert to Islam

The bill that was just defeated in the Senate was an amnesty, plain and simple. But take a look at what these treasonous scumbags tried to hide in it. They will be back and we can expect more of this if we do not act decisively.

Hidden Bombs (Extremely Important Article on Immigration)

The second nasty surprise? Just before the committee approved the bill on the evening of March 27, Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) offered the "DREAM Act" as an amendment. It passed on a voice vote.

The DREAM Act is a nightmare. It repeals a 1996 law that prohibits state universities from offering in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens. The principle, of course, is that no illegal alien should be entitled to receive a taxpayer-subsidized benefit that out-of-state U.S. citizens can't get. But the committee's bill allows illegals to be treated better than those U.S. citizens on tuition.

[LNewman]

'"There is no one leader, and that's a good thing. It's a shared leadership among people who we don't even always know."

That ousted, arrogant sack of lard (and that's just the "hairdo"!) actually spewed that? Amazing.

Then again, our local beret-wearing idiots started out attending public meetings declaring themselves Anahuac Nativists ... more recently they claim to be champions for "all oppressed peoples."

[SealSeven]

you are being presumptuous if you think Jesus would be standing with you against these illegal immigrants.

Why would he not be?

[sinkspur]

Why would he not be?

Jesus stood with the poor.

[adam_az]

[SealSeven]

Jesus stood with the poor.

Did he condone breaking the law?

[nopardons]

bttt

[sinkspur]

Did he condone breaking the law?

Depended on the law. Jesus broke many of the silly 613 laws that the Pharisees established for Judaism.

[Zetman]

The Catholic Church, in it's Catechism, does NOT condone illegal aliens breaking the law, and it teaches that nations have the right to establish and enforce immigration policies. In addition, it says that immigrants have a duty to be grateful to their new home nation, and to assimilate. I have posted this in other threads, and will keep posting it. I am tired of hearing that the Catholic Church is behind this crap. As a Catholic, I MOST CERTAINLY AM NOT!! Certain members of the hierarchy ARE, however, and shame on them. They must be opposed. Cardinal Mahony, and all his fellow travellers, are apparently ignoring the doctrine of the Church in order to advance their own secular marxist agenda. I hope Benedict smacks them down, but I am not counting on it.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church....

"2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."

[SealSeven]

How do you think Jesus would treat our immigration laws?

[SealSeven]

You are a credit to your relegion.

[sinkspur]

How do you think Jesus would treat our immigration laws?

He would urge compassion and a consideration for those who have been here a good while, with kids in school and a life established.

Exactly what the Catholic bishops and the Senate are urging.

Jesus stood with the poor and with those who were shunned by Jewish society.

There is nothing to indicate in any of His actions or words that He would be on the side of those screaming for repatriation for every illegal here.

He would also be advocating for allowing more legal immigrants every year, and streamlining the process.

[no dems]

I love that picture. What are the chances of getting it on the cover of a national publication?

[sinkspur]

Cardinal Mahony, and all his fellow travellers, are apparently ignoring the doctrine of the Church in order to advance their own secular marxist agenda.

You best check the policy of the US Conference of Catholic bishops.

The US Bishops support an earned legalization program, and have, since 2003.

And John Paul II did as well.

[Zetman]

You best check the policy of the US Conference of Catholic bishops.

The US Bishops support an earned legalization program, and have, since 2003.

And John Paul II did as well.

I'll stick with Church teaching, as in the quote from the Catechism above. Hopefully, Benedict will show more common sense, and will reign in these fools (but I am not holding my breath). At the end of the day, all we can do is pray, and then leave it in the hands of God (well, we can also whine and complain a lot too!!).

[sinkspur]

I'll stick with Church teaching, as in the quote from the Catechism above.

The Catechism does not rule out earned legalization programs, which is why Benedict will say nothing about the US Bishops' policy.

[Zetman]

The Catechism does not rule out earned legalization programs, which is why Benedict will say nothing about the US Bishops' policy.

No, it does not rule out a great many things. However, if we pass an "earned legalization program" like Mahony and the other marxists are pushing, it will simply invite more abuse than it has already caused. Once we reward the illegal aliens for cheating, breaking our laws, and jumping to the head of the line, we will teach everyone else south of the border that they should follow suit. These people are swarming over the border not so much to get a better life for themselves, but to grab the free welfare goodies from the United States government that the Supreme Court is forcing us to provide. If we cut off the free housing assitance, medical treatment, and public education to the illegals (things which most U.S. citizens can't even obtain!!), how many of them would simply turn around and go back home on their own accord?? If you give something away for free, people will show up from miles around to take you up on it. If these illegals worked as hard building up Mexico, and making it a better place to live, as they do sneaking in here and sponging off our welfare system, and contributing nothing in return, Mexico would soon become a "paradise" which would rival the United States. But I digress.

I fear you are correct. Benedict will probably not see it this way, and as such will either do nothing, or will come down on Mahony's side. However, even if he does, that still doesn't make it right.

[DumpsterDiver]

That ousted, arrogant sack of lard (and that's just the "hairdo"!) actually spewed that? Amazing.

The quote I used came straight out of the article:

"There is no one leader, and that's a good thing," said Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican-American Political Association, a central organizer of rallies in Southern California. "It's a shared leadership among people who we don't even always know."

(and that's just the "hairdo"!)

Rumor has it he uses Crisco to achieve that look.

[magslinger]

ping