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Summer 2002 Document: Destruction And Hiding of WMD Documents and Archives (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO Iraq Pre-war documents ^ | April 12 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 04/12/2006 5:53:51 PM PDT by jveritas

Memos in document CMPC-2003-002284 that are dated in June and August 2002 present another great evidence of Saddam Regime deceptions to hide his WMD programs and this time by destroying the WMD files or hiding them in a secure location. Saddam knew that summer that the UN inspectors are coming back to Iraq so he ordered these actions hoping that he will fool them, and he did fool Hans Blix and company.

Translation of Page 3

In the Name of God the Merciful The Compassionate

Subject: Destruction

On Friday that coincides on 23/8/2002 were destroyed the primary archives for the Atomic Energy Commission according to the instructions issued regarding this and it was destroyed (burned) in the outside warehouses and it was carried on Compact Discs and the destruction operation was achieved by the presence of:

1. Mr. Director of Energy Security- Mr. Saher Nassif Jasem

2. The Representative of the National Monitoring Department; General Kamal Abed Mohamad

3. Mr. The Director of the Disarmament Section- Mr. Maatook Abed Al Satar

4. Mr. Director of Monitoring Section in the Organization- Mr. Hani Hassan Ahmad

And according to this the document was signed (Remark: The remaining of the documents that are related to the purchasing of the Nuclear Program and that is 22 steel boxes will be received from the Monitoring Department to be dealt with)

Signatures…

Mr. Hani Hassan Ahmad, General Kamal Abed Mohamad, Mr. Maatook Abed Al Satar; Mr. Saher Nassif Jasem 23/8/2002

23/8/2002.

End of Translation of Page 3

Now on 4 you see a memo about the transfer of Top Secret and Very Important WMD documents from the Iraqi National Monitoring Agency (the agency that is supposed to discuss and report Iraq WMD issues with the UN) to more secure locations where it will be harder for the UN inspectors to find it.

Translation of page 4

Subject: Receiving documents

The documents preserved by the National Monitoring Department were accounted for and received by Mr. Ayad Kihtan Talab, the representative of The Military Industrial Security Agency and its details are shown in the attached tables and its numbers (12) are twelve pages and in (9) nine cardboard boxes

The Representative of the National Monitoring Department.. Signature… General Kamal Abed Mohamad 17/6/2002

The Representative of the Intelligence Apparatus.. Signature… Hamood Awde Salem 17/6/2002

The Representative of the Industrial Military Security.. Signature.. Ayad Kihtan Talab 17/6/2002.

End of translation of page 4

Now page 6 and 7 are two of the 12 pages of documents list shown above it and refers to a “Very Important file about Chemical Equipments” and “Special Equipement”.

Beginning of partial translation of Page 6

Box number 4 (Chemical-K)

1. Document folder of the Air Force Equipment in the Glorified Qadisya Saddam, correspondences regarding the Chemical Equipments (all assembled in a Red folder mark on it Very Important) 16. File regarding the examination of the Special Equipment

End of partial translation of page 6 and 7.

Special Equipment are designated by the Iraqi as Chemical Weapons and it is the same term they used in the already translated document when they attacked the Kurds with Chemical Weapons (Special Equipment or Special Ammunition) back in 1987.


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1 posted on 04/12/2006 5:53:53 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: jveritas
You know, the docs are really a Bush/Rove fabrication to cover up the fact that there never was WMDs. /sarc

Thanks for all the hard work.

2 posted on 04/12/2006 5:56:37 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: jveritas

Incredible...hang on a second while I check the NYTimes, WaPo etc. to see what pages their translations are on...

Nevermind....

G


3 posted on 04/12/2006 5:57:08 PM PDT by GRRRRR (ACLU, Hitliary and DemonRats are the Enemies of AMERICA and FREEDOM)
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To: eyespysomething

More deception by Saddam to hide his WMD programs, this time it is in the Summer of 2002 few months before the UN inspectors returned to Iraq.


4 posted on 04/12/2006 5:57:27 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: neodad

Yep this Bush guy sent Bill Burkette to forge these documents so we will translate and show that he was right :)
(Extreme sarcasm of course)


5 posted on 04/12/2006 5:59:09 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Anothger big BUMP to ya. Ar you gonna yak with Tony Snow Tomorrow?


6 posted on 04/12/2006 6:00:47 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jveritas

Mr. Hani Hassan Ahmad, General Kamal Abed Mohamad, Mr. Maatook Abed Al Satar; Mr. Saher Nassif Jasem 23/8/2002

These are people who should be compelled to testify before a commission (not the hucksters on the 9/11 Commission) or a court concerning Saddam's WMD programs.


7 posted on 04/12/2006 6:08:53 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly

Agree 100%.


8 posted on 04/12/2006 6:09:36 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: onyx; Grampa Dave; Calpernia; NerdDad; FlashBack; Petronski; Ernest_at_the_Beach; STARWISE; ...

Ping


9 posted on 04/12/2006 6:09:56 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: pissant

I am going to call him, and I hope I will get through :)


10 posted on 04/12/2006 6:10:35 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
Jveritas Rocks!


11 posted on 04/12/2006 6:11:52 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: jveritas

BTTT


12 posted on 04/12/2006 6:12:43 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: COEXERJ145

You see, you are still coming up with great graphics :)


13 posted on 04/12/2006 6:13:08 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

And the big story on the drive-by-media today was the fact that the intelligence agency knew the so-called biological weapons trailers were not that at all two days before the President used the information in a claim that the trailers were evidence of WMD's.

The media hates the President and this country so much that they focus on this obscure bit of information as proof Bush Lied and ignore the masses of doucments that show Saddam was preparing for UN inspections and possible war by moving and hiding his weapons. How I hate and despise the media. Their paper is not worth use as fishwrap.

Thank you for all you are doing in translating these documents and exposing Saddam and his regime for what we knew it to be in the first place.


14 posted on 04/12/2006 6:13:08 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: jveritas; Tony Snow

Tony,

Please be sure to tell your screener to put Jveritas at the front of the line. Better yet, freepmail him and arrange a time for him to call in. This is going to be huge news and we want you to be out in front as you usually are. Thanks


15 posted on 04/12/2006 6:14:13 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jveritas

Yeah but I'm using up my supply pretty fast.


16 posted on 04/12/2006 6:16:22 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: CedarDave

and buried in paragraph 12 of the compost article was the statement that two other independent evaluations said that the trailers were capable of producing Bio weapons.


17 posted on 04/12/2006 6:26:29 PM PDT by GreyFriar ((3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead))
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To: jveritas; pinz-n-needlez; onyx; ohioWfan; Texasforever; BigSkyFreeper; Tamzee; mrs tiggywinkle; ...

You've been busy, jveritas

Thanks for all the great work in getting the information out there!

Ping!


18 posted on 04/12/2006 6:27:10 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: jveritas; All

More good work jveritas. Email links.


tonysnow@foxnews.com
Special@foxnews.com (Brit Hume)
Hannity@foxnews.com
Oreilly@foxnews.com
Studiob@foxnews.com (Shep Smith)
Hardball@msnbc.com
Imus@msnbc.com
Myword@foxnews.com (John Gibson)
Drudge@drudgereport.com
writemalkin@gmail.com
hhewitt@hughhewitt.com
rush@eibnet.com
http://www.michaelmedved.com/askmike


19 posted on 04/12/2006 6:27:34 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: neodad
You know, the docs are really a Bush/Rove fabrication to cover up the fact that there never was WMDs. /sarc

I can now see the MSM headlines tomorrow morning ... The Free Republic conservative website has just confirmed that the WMD Documents supposedly discovered in Iraq are a Rove fabrication ... film at 11

20 posted on 04/12/2006 6:28:28 PM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: jveritas

Can't wait until Scott Ritter finds out he was lied to.


21 posted on 04/12/2006 6:29:37 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: neodad

It appears that since the release of these docs, the media has made a conscience effort to renew their claims that Bush lied about WMDs. From the NIE/Libby and Fitz flub to the mobile labs, the media is again rallying to portray Bush as deliberate liar...even misrepresenting these very stories in the process.


22 posted on 04/12/2006 6:31:48 PM PDT by cwb (Our melting-pot is becoming a pressure-cooker about to explode)
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To: jveritas

bump


23 posted on 04/12/2006 6:31:51 PM PDT by lesser_satan
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To: Captain Ed

Fyi..


24 posted on 04/12/2006 6:34:09 PM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: jveritas
I had a friend who simply would not accept that any of these documents were either existent or verifiable. He had not heard anything about it on the MSM, so it was not true. Minutes later, ABC News ran a report regarding the new translations and transcripts of the Saddam tapes, and of course, he took their attempt to spin it and claimed that these have not been authenticated. Since then, they have been. Now, like the MSM themselves, they are not in any position to make claims in any direction. They are stymied. For once...
25 posted on 04/12/2006 6:35:26 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: Mo1; jveritas

Thanks Mo for the ping


Jveritas..if you were one of the so called "elite" reporters you'd get a Pulitzer for this. Thanks for all your hard work. Maybe someday this will break through to the American Pravda..I mean the American press.


26 posted on 04/12/2006 6:39:08 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: jveritas

Saddam didn't have to fool Hans Blix or the other "inspectors"...(I'm just waiting for the document that shows that) they were on Saddam's payroll!


27 posted on 04/12/2006 6:44:02 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: jveritas
You're amazing!
28 posted on 04/12/2006 6:44:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mo1

Many thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 04/12/2006 6:45:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: CedarDave

"And the big story on the drive-by-media today was the fact that the intelligence agency knew the so-called biological weapons trailers were not that at all two days before the President used the information in a claim that the trailers were evidence of WMD's."




Yeah...and they deliberately ignored that Bush didn't see this report and was relying on another report by the CIA and DIA that said they were bio-labs. Even if Bush knew of both reports, it wasn't unreasonable for Bush to assume the worst; it certainly doesn't make him a liar in light of Saddam's record. Hell, I remember the investigation of these labs and how there were reports that they were scrubbed with chlorine and other chemicals to hide the evidence.

At the very least, Democrats and the media are attempting to criminalize policy matters, disputes and executive decisions...which if this continues, could seriously jeopardize the security of this country. Making judgement calls on intel that may be contradictory, in no way constitutes a lie...especially when a record of deciet or manipulation already exists from the offending party.


30 posted on 04/12/2006 6:54:51 PM PDT by cwb (Our melting-pot is becoming a pressure-cooker about to explode)
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To: jveritas
On Friday that coincides on 23/8/2002 were destroyed the primary archives for the Atomic Energy Commission according to the instructions issued regarding this and it was destroyed (burned) in the outside warehouses and it was carried on Compact Discs and the destruction operation was achieved by the presence of...

Are you sure this isn't a memo on the destruction of the archives as required by the UN resolutions?

31 posted on 04/12/2006 6:55:36 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: jveritas

My hamster could fool Hans Blix and company :P

BTTT and thank you again!


32 posted on 04/12/2006 6:59:57 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ziggy_dlo; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; ..
Memos in document CMPC-2003-002284 that are dated in June and August 2002 present another great evidence of Saddam Regime deceptions to hide his WMD programs and this time by destroying the WMD files or hiding them in a secure location. Saddam knew that summer that the UN inspectors are coming back to Iraq so he ordered these actions hoping that he will fool them, and he did fool Hans Blix and company.
33 posted on 04/12/2006 7:01:56 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: jveritas

I can't get your link to open.


34 posted on 04/12/2006 7:03:59 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: GreyFriar; cwb

Drive-by-media still at it -- listening to ABC news' take on it just now -- playing up Press Secretary McClellan's remarks that the Bush administration admits it was wrong on the WMD issue.


35 posted on 04/12/2006 7:05:15 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: jveritas
AUGUST 2002 : (US SATELLITES DETECT ACTIVITY AT IRAQI BIOWEAPONS FACILITY) US satellites detect a convoy of 60 trucks at a one of main suspected biological weapons factories, called the Taji Cell Protection Plant.- Iraq - Scotsman says Saddam has weapons to wipe out world's population, nuclear bomb within 3 years "The Scotsman dossier - SPECIAL REPORT ON IRAQ" by Fraser Nelson, Westminster Editor

AUGUST 2002 : (IRAQ TRIES TO DISCREDIT IRAQI DEFECTOR ADNAN SAEED AL-HAIDERI ) Iraq is so worried about what Adnan Saeed al-Haideri told the CIA that a senior Iraqi official took reporters in early August to a Baghdad site he claimed al-Haideri had identified as a biological-weapons production plant. Instead, the official claimed, it was a "livestock vaccination laboratory." Reporters were shown abandoned monitoring cameras installed by the United Nations. Dust-covered equipment and bottles littered the floor. Pointing to this "evidence," their Iraqi escort claimed that al-Haideri "is lying to the CIA" and was "motivated by our enemies." - "How Saddam Got Weapons of Mass Destruction" By Kenneth R. Timmerman, Insight Magazine via WorldNetDaily.com , Tuesday, October 1, 2002

AUGUST 2002 : (IRAQ : ABU NIDAL DISCRETELY BURIED) Abu Nidal was buried quietly in Baghdad last August after reportedly dying of self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head. - "Gadhafi offers to mediate on Iraq: Libyan dictator wants 'to save international peace' ," WorldNetDaily.com , Wednesday, February 5, 2003

[wounds? How does one give oneself multiple gunshot wounds to the head?]

AUGUST 2002 : (ZARQAWI IS IN BAGHDAD, IRAQ) Abu Musab Zarqawi, aka Ahmad Fadeel al-Khalaylah, one of al Qaeda's top 24 leaders, was last known to be in Iraq by this time enjoying Baghdad's hospitality. Zarqawi was involved in the Millenium plots, which were to include the LAX airport (see Ressam, the guy captured trying to enter the US with explosives in December 1999) and some sites in Jordan including a hotel in Amman frequented by Americans and Israelis- his co-conspirator, Abu Zubayda, is in custody and doing some talking. Zarqawi also sent three terrorists to Tel Aviv, Israel to carry out bombing in Israel, they were captured in February 2002. He may have gone from Iraq to Syria by some reports. Another al Qaeda conspirator, and Iraqi, is still inside Iraq. He is linked to the Malaysia terrorist summit where the planning for the USS Cole bombing and 9/11 occured.

AUGUST 1, 2002 : (UNMOVIC : IRAQ INVITES BLIX TO DISCUSSIONS) In a letter to Annan, Iraq invites Blix to Iraq for technical discussions on remaining disarmament issues. - "Key events in UN weapons inspections in Iraq," By AP September 17 2002

AUGUST 6, 2002 : (UN ASKS IRAQ TO ACCEPT INSPECTIONS) UN's Kofi Annan writes to Iraqis pointing out that what they are proposing is at odds with UN resolutions and asks that Iraq accept inspections. - "Key events in UN weapons inspections in Iraq," By AP September 17 2002

36 posted on 04/12/2006 7:06:43 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa
The previous translation was about scientists using methods to hide their work. Their is also a translation telling certain scientists to hide from UN inspectors.

All the translations laid out tell an ominous story.
37 posted on 04/12/2006 7:13:47 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: jveritas
Great work.

1. Document folder of the Air Force Equipment in the Glorified Qadisya Saddam, correspondences regarding the Chemical Equipments (all assembled in a Red folder mark on it Very Important) 16. File regarding the examination of the Special Equipment

This looks like it could be a smoking gun....IF the examination occurred after say 9/11/2001, and is not merely a reference to some earlier examination.

38 posted on 04/12/2006 7:14:44 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Tymesup


Go here: http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm

Then to this file: CMPC-2003-002284


39 posted on 04/12/2006 7:15:07 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cwb
NY Times'insistance [based on the claims of anonymous individuals who had never even seen the labs] that the trailers were for making hydrogen, all three of the international teams assigned to look at those vehicles concluded their most likely use was as mobile labs for bioweapon production.
40 posted on 04/12/2006 7:36:23 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: jveritas

You, sir, are making history. Humbled to be in your presence, and thankful that FR is here to serve as your platform.


41 posted on 04/12/2006 7:38:39 PM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: Calpernia

A slow site to navigate, link still doesn't open. Will try it at work tomorrow.

Thanks, anyway!


42 posted on 04/12/2006 7:38:49 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: jveritas

major bump


43 posted on 04/12/2006 7:47:22 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: jveritas

Isn't this about the time Rocky paid Saddam a visit?


44 posted on 04/12/2006 7:48:11 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: jveritas; Mo1; Calpernia
So we have aNational Monitoring Department ,....wonder what building they were located in and if we found anything there,....it was likely burned up.....
45 posted on 04/12/2006 7:56:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: cwb
Great observation. A preemptive strike by the liberal media.
46 posted on 04/12/2006 8:01:46 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Richard Axtell
Please tell you friend that these documents were captured from the Iraqi Intelligence headquarters, Iraq defense ministry, Iraqi military bases, Saddam palaces, and other government sites. There is no way that someone go and plant these documents right after the war.
47 posted on 04/12/2006 8:05:49 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: piasa
NO it is not because there was no UN inspectors in Iraq in August 2002 and why did the Iraqi keep these top secret files about the WMD if the UN wanted them destroyed earlier. Why they did not destroy them prior to December 1998 before the UN inspectors were kicked out of Iraq.
48 posted on 04/12/2006 8:10:48 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: hipaatwo
I am very glad that I am not an "elite" reporter but rather a humble freeper posting on the greatest forum on the net and in company of great freepers :)
49 posted on 04/12/2006 8:12:43 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: nopardons; Mo1

Thank you very much.


50 posted on 04/12/2006 8:13:32 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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