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Pope Calls Judas Double-Crosser in Homily (Adios National Geographic's romantic notion!)
AP ^ | April 34, 2006 | Daniela Petroff

Posted on 04/13/2006 7:47:16 PM PDT by NYer

Pope Benedict XVI Thursday recounted the Biblical betrayal of Jesus by Judas, calling the apostle a double-crosser for whom "money was more important than communion with Jesus, more important than God and his love."

Benedict's traditional depiction of Judas came during his Holy Thursday homily, a week after the release of an ancient Egyptian Coptic text dubbed the "Gospel of Judas," in which Judas is portrayed not as Jesus' betrayer but as his confidant who was doing his will by handing him over to his enemies to be crucified.

Holy Thursday marks the start of a series of solemn ceremonies in the Catholic Church in which the faithful relive Jesus' suffering, crucifixion and death — and then his resurrection on Easter Sunday.

During the service, the holy father humbly washed the feet of 12 men, re-enacting Jesus' washing of his apostles' feet during the Last Supper and saying the act cleansed the "filth" of mankind.

As a choir's hymn filled St. John Lateran Basilica in Rome, Benedict poured water from a golden vase over each of the men's feet and scrubbed each one dry in an act of humility and service.

In his homily, Benedict said Jesus washed his disciples' feet to purify them so they could join him at the Last Supper, the meal which the faithful believe Jesus shared with his apostles before he was betrayed by his apostle Judas and crucified.

"God comes down and becomes a slave; he washes our feet so we can be at his table," Benedict said. "The bath in which he washes us is his love, ready to confront death. Only love has the purifying force that takes away our filth and elevates us to God."

Benedict's homily adhered to the traditional portrayal of Judas as betraying Jesus.

The "Gospel of Judas" tells a far different tale from the four gospels in the New Testament. It portrays Judas as a favored disciple who was given special knowledge by Jesus — and turned him in at Jesus' request. It portrays Judas as being told spiritual secrets that the other apostles were not.

The Egyptian Coptic text, one of several ancient documents found in the Egyptian desert in 1970, was preserved and translated by a team of scholars. The text was made public last week.

Benedict presided over another Mass dedicated to priests during which he recalled the sacrifice of a cleric slain in Turkey.

Benedict read a letter written by Rev. Andrea Santoro in which the Italian prelate spoke of his willingness to offer his own body for the sake of preaching Catholicism in largely Muslim Turkey.

Santoro, 60, was shot and killed Feb. 5 while he prayed in his parish in the Black Sea city of Trabzon. Witnesses said the killer, a 16-year-old boy, screamed "Allahu Akbar," Arabic for "God is great," before firing two bullets into Santoro's back.

Benedict quoted Santoro as saying in his letter that he had chosen to live in Turkey to be among its people, "lending" his body to Christ to do so.

Santoro's slaying occurred at the height of unrest in the Muslim world over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad published in Europe. Top church officials have called Santoro a martyr.


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Reuters - Thu Apr 13, 4:47 PM ET

Pope Benedict XVI washes the feet of a worshipper during the beginning of the Paschal Triduum Mass of the Last Supper at the St. John in Lateran Basilica in Rome, April 13, 2006. Pope Benedict on Thursday washed and dried the feet of 12 men at a traditional Holy Thursday service commemorating Christ's gesture of humility to his apostles the night before he died.REUTERS/Osservatore Romano


1 posted on 04/13/2006 7:47:21 PM PDT by NYer
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Reuters - Thu Apr 13, 3:36 PM ET Pope Benedict XVI looks on during the beginning of the Paschal Triduum Mass of the Last Supper at the St. John in Lateran Basilica in Rome April 13, 2006. Pope Benedict on Thursday washed and dried the feet of 12 men at a traditional Holy Thursday service commemorating Christ's gesture of humility to his apostles the night before he died. REUTERS/Giampiero Sposito

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2 posted on 04/13/2006 7:53:45 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

"Benedict's homily adhered to the traditional portrayal of Judas as betraying Jesus."

The pope didnt change 2000 years of church doctrine because of a TV show? How shocking....


3 posted on 04/13/2006 7:54:26 PM PDT by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: All
From Zenit News Agency

Date: 2006-04-13

Pope Focuses on Mystery of Judas' Betrayal

Apostle Rejected God's Love, Says Benedict XVI

VATICAN CITY, APRIL 13, 2006 (Zenit.org).- In his homily at the Mass of the Lord's Supper, Benedict XVI assured the faithful that the mystery of Judas consists precisely in his rejection of God's love.

Judas Iscariot personifies "treacherous man," for whom money, power and success are more important than love and he does not hesitate to sell Jesus, the Pope said at the Mass on the evening of Holy Thursday.

The Holy Father's comments came in the wake of the recently divulged "Gospel of Judas," an ancient document that puts the apostle and his betrayal of Christ in a positive light. It describes Judas, in fact, as obeying a divine ordinance in handing over Jesus to the authorities.

In his homily, Benedict XVI, on the contrary, stressed the freedom of the apostle who betrayed Jesus for 30 denarii, as the canonical Gospels explain.

"The dark mystery exists of the rejection, made present with what happened to Judas and, precisely on Holy Thursday, on the day that Jesus gives himself up, should make us reflect," said the Pontiff. "The Lord's love knows no limits, but man can put a limit."

Rejection

Benedict XVI then asked: "What does this do to treacherous man?" And he responded: "The rejection of love, not wanting to be loved, not loving. Pride which thinks it has no need of purification, which closes itself to the saving goodness of God."

"In Judas," he said, "we see the nature of this rejection still more clearly. He judges Jesus according to the categories of power and success: For him, power and success alone are the reality, love does not count.

"And he is avid: Money is more important than communion with Jesus, it is more important than God and his love."

"In this way," the Holy Father explained, "he also becomes a liar, who plays a game of double jeopardy, and breaks with truth, someone who lives in lies, thus losing the sense of the highest truth, of God."

"In this way, he becomes hard and incapable of conversion, of the confident return of the prodigal son, and throws away his destroyed life."

4 posted on 04/13/2006 7:55:39 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: gondramB

Well one thing for sure, Judas WAS a Democrat.


5 posted on 04/13/2006 7:56:13 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: gondramB

The night before Jesus chose Judas to be an apostle, Jesus prayed all night. Jesus knew Judas would betray him.


6 posted on 04/13/2006 7:58:00 PM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: NYer
There has always been false gospels, probably a lot older than this one. That is why the early church had to weed out a lot of them to compile the Bible.

I have a book somewhere which contains a lot of the Apocryphal stories, this is just another one.

Maybe interesting but so what?

7 posted on 04/13/2006 8:01:08 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: NYer
It was preordained that Jesus be crucified for the sins of man.

Jesus knew it. God knew it. That was the reason Jesus was "sent" to Earth. That Jesus may have "revealed" Heavenly mysteries to someone, in return for that person fulfilling the destiny God had planned, seems an interesting concept.

8 posted on 04/13/2006 8:02:34 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (The enemy within: Demoncrats and DSA.ORG Sedition is a Liberal "family value".)
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To: NYer
The Egyptian Coptic text, one of several ancient documents found in the Egyptian desert in 1970, was preserved and translated by a team of scholars.

Ah yes, "a team of scholars". That settles it, who can argue with a team of scholars?! Certainly not some guy in a white robe in Rome. The MSM subversives get subtle all of a sudden.

9 posted on 04/13/2006 8:02:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: CAWats

Precisely, but Jesus would NEVER interfere with the free will of anyone. While He knew Judas would betray him, He had no interest in swaying Judas one way or the other because the will of Christ cannot be pushed on anyone.

They who come to Jesus do so of their own free will, and they who refuse Him also do so of their own free will.

The National Geographic show indicated that Jesus intentionally asked Judas to betray him, which is total nonsense.


10 posted on 04/13/2006 8:04:34 PM PDT by Emmet Fitzhume ("It is better to be alone than in bad company.")
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To: gondramB
The pope didnt change 2000 years of church doctrine because of a TV show? How shocking....

Well, it *was* Nat'l Geographic, ya know.

11 posted on 04/13/2006 8:06:06 PM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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To: SittinYonder

Ping


12 posted on 04/13/2006 8:06:33 PM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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To: NYer
Pope Benedict XVI Thursday recounted the Biblical betrayal of Jesus by Judas, calling the apostle a double-crosser for whom "money was more important than communion with Jesus, more important than God and his love."

Benedict's traditional depiction of Judas came during his Holy Thursday homily, a week after the release of an ancient Egyptian Coptic text dubbed the "Gospel of Judas," in which Judas is portrayed not as Jesus' betrayer but as his confidant who was doing his will by handing him over to his enemies to be crucified.

I don't know about the "confidant" part; but:
Christ had to die for mens' sins.
He had to be betrayed.
Somebody had to be the betrayer.
If everyone had free will and chose not to betray him, then wouldn't men have thwarted God's purpose/intent? (which cannot happen if God is omniscient?)
So, since someone had to be the fall guy, and it happened to be Judas, is it right to diss him because he had no control over his destiny and no choice not to point-out Christ? (not, of course, like the soldiers would never have found out who he was anyway - especially since they were looking for him?)

13 posted on 04/13/2006 8:08:21 PM PDT by VeniVidiAuferi
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To: VeniVidiAuferi
So, since someone had to be the fall guy, and it happened to be Judas, is it right to diss him because he had no control over his destiny and no choice not to point-out Christ?

Nonsense! Judas had free will. That Jesus Christ knew he would betray him, neither altered nor persuaded that decision.

Imagine yourself standing by a large picture window out of which you see a small child walking into a major thoroughfare. From the corner of your eye, you see a 16 wheeler barreling down on the child. You know what is about to happen. Does your 'knowing' make it happen? Of course not.

14 posted on 04/13/2006 8:17:42 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
We used to get National Geographic magazine, in fact we started getting it in 1950. We stopped getting it for a while and I never could remember why. A few years ago we took a 1 year subscription. They have many good articles. What made us not renew and never take another subscription was the political slant in some of the articles. Now that I think of it, political comments about Bush #1 was the reason we stopped taking Discover magazine.

I wrote both magazines when we cancelled our subscriptions telling them that if I had wanted a political magazine I would subscribe to one.

So with that said I have to say that we would never watch a show they produce that has anything to do with Christianity.

15 posted on 04/13/2006 8:17:51 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: Revolting cat!

It was already known from an early Christian author known as Pseudo-Tertullian that one group of gnostics, known as the Cainites, defended Judas...all the newly-published text does is fill in some of the details. From a Christian perspective, what the Gospel of Judas might say is of no more importance than what the Koran might say.


16 posted on 04/13/2006 8:19:10 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: NYer

Pope Benedict is an excellent communicator of the gospel message.


17 posted on 04/13/2006 8:20:03 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: NYer
I think it is only St Matthew's Gospel which sets a figure on how much Judas was paid for betraying Jesus, and that gospel speaks of 30 pieces of silver (argyria), not specifying the term denarii (26.15, 27.3).
18 posted on 04/13/2006 8:23:06 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: VeniVidiAuferi
Christ had to die for mens' sins.

Christ did not have to die for our sins. We did not have to be reconciled with God.

God chose to do this for us. He didn't have to.

He could have said I'm sick of them, I'm sending another rainstorm and nobody builds an ark this time. He could have simply said they don't want Me, I'm separating Myself forever from them, literally guaranteeing a Hell on earth.

But He didn't. He died for us and reconciled us to Him. He didn't have to.

Did Judas have to betray Christ? No. He could have stood up to temptation and pride, said this man is my friend and I'm going to do what's right. Maybe then he really would have been the hero as the Gnostics like to pretend, and the Precious Blood would not have needed to be spilled.

Or if Pilate said this man is innocent and I'm releasing Him whether you like it or not and to heck with my job. Maybe God would have accepted that as reconciliation.

Or if the Jewish authorities said "Hey, you are the Christ. We will follow."

Of course, maybe doesn't count. None of those things happened. The Crucifixion occurred followed by the Resurrection and our souls were purchased with pain.

19 posted on 04/13/2006 8:29:20 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Petronski

something to cheer you up ping!


20 posted on 04/13/2006 8:29:56 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Tribune7

Excellent synopsis.


21 posted on 04/13/2006 9:31:42 PM PDT by az wildkitten
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To: NYer
The Pope does Judas a great favor by condemning his betrayal and lack of reconciliation before death by suicide. If condemning the betrayer's actions is correct, as it is correct when the Pope speaks on the subject, then glorifying Judas brings his soul more suffering. Those who are truly interested in the life and death of Judas can help him by buying a Mass intention for his soul.

Being enamored by a so-called "gospel of Judas" is to be dangerously enthralled in Satan's role of spreading misery and sin. Rejecting both Satan, himself and all his works, and Judas' ACTIONS (not him personally) is in step to humbly submit in obedience of God's Judgment of what is righteous and what is evil.

Recognizing Jesus' Truth of His betrayer, "It would be better for that man if he had never been born." is to accept the terrible Fear of God's Judgment. I suppose the Reason is that if the gaining of Salvation is not enough to motivate your soul, then perhaps the loss of Salvation may help light a fire under your feet.

Thus, I can only imagine that Judas would prefer to be scorned rather than be held up as exemplary. Even a soul bound to the torments of the netherworld would much prefer to warn those still living sinfully. Even Jesus instructs us (Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus):

Luke 16:

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When the poor man died, he was carried away by angels to the bosom of Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried,
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and from the netherworld, where he was in torment, he raised his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.
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And he cried out, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me. Send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am suffering torment in these flames.'
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Abraham replied, 'My child, remember that you received what was good during your lifetime while Lazarus likewise received what was bad; but now he is comforted here, whereas you are tormented.
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Moreover, between us and you a great chasm is established to prevent anyone from crossing who might wish to go from our side to yours or from your side to ours.' 27
He said, 'Then I beg you, father, send him to my father's house,
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for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they too come to this place of torment.' 29
But Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them.'
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He said, 'Oh no, father Abraham, but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'
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Then Abraham said, 'If they will not listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone should rise from the dead.'"







After betraying Our Lord with a kiss, artistic license has Judas' lips irritated and "burning" in the movie, "The Passion of the Christ."
23 posted on 04/13/2006 9:49:43 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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To: gondramB

I would like media watch to do a study on how many negative and anti Christian stories appear on TV and in the press a few weeks before easter. That would be a telling study.


24 posted on 04/13/2006 10:03:56 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Tribune7; NYer

The result(s) of Judas having said "nope - I ain't doin' it" would have kind of made a mess out of all the OT prophecy concerning Christ's coming and his sacrifice and crucifixion, no?


25 posted on 04/13/2006 10:18:35 PM PDT by VeniVidiAuferi
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To: VeniVidiAuferi

yes, and you not harming your brother would make kind of a mess out the need for God's forgiveness.

So sin and harm away. You are only doing God's will after all. Right?


26 posted on 04/14/2006 12:25:00 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: NYer

Remembering the martyrdom of Rev. Santoro -- may his example inspire the world.


27 posted on 04/14/2006 12:42:18 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Rome2000

CNN's Larry King "honored" Holy Week with a Thursday evening show discussing the "controversy" of priestly celebacy, dealing with other topics such as whether gays and lesbians are welcome in the church, and running the much-publicized United Church of Christ advertisement, "We don't turn anyone away" with photos of an inter-racial couple and a gay couple.


28 posted on 04/14/2006 12:48:15 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Dustbunny

National Geo had an article in a recent issue slobbering all over Hugo Chavez and his socialist revolution in Venezuela. It was blatantly pro-revolution, quoting Venezuelans who support Chavez and his "reforms" and casting aspersions on the rich citizens who do not. In fact the slant reminded me of similar pro-revolution articles written in past decades about Fidel Castro and Cuba.


29 posted on 04/14/2006 12:52:43 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: gondramB

Egads... you are very funny :):):)


30 posted on 04/14/2006 12:55:16 AM PDT by Cate
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To: VeniVidiAuferi
When Andrew Lloyd Webber's rock opera "Jesus Christ Superstar" came out circa 1970, I remember being a big fan. But now when I see the DVD of the musical, it's astonishing to see how sympathetic it is of Judas, who at one point sings to Jesus, "You have murdered me." The play was written from the persepective of Judas and purports to show how Judas was "manipulated" by Jesus, was a helpless puppet.

I don't agree with that position, of course. I just find it astonishing that the slant of the musical never dawned on me when I as a college student saw it some 35 years ago.

31 posted on 04/14/2006 12:58:48 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: NYer

"Benedict read a letter written by Rev. Andrea Santoro in which the Italian prelate spoke of his willingness to offer his own body for the sake of preaching Catholicism in largely Muslim Turkey.

Santoro, 60, was shot and killed Feb. 5 while he prayed in his parish in the Black Sea city of Trabzon. Witnesses said the killer, a 16-year-old boy, screamed "Allahu Akbar," Arabic for "God is great," before firing two bullets into Santoro's back."

In the controversy over Judas the above seems to have been overlooked.

Another shocking crime perpetrated by the lunatic followers of the "peaceful religion" in a so-called "secular" Islamic state. Such an entity does not, cannot and never did exist.

And these people want in to the European Common Market???

The Turk should be driven from Constantinople, Hagia Sophia should be cleansed of the pollution inflicted on it by the Turk, and the Turk should be driven from Anatolia, back into the wastes of Central Asia which spawned him - and locked up there. Anatolia, once the seat of the Christian religion, should be restored to its ancient faith.


32 posted on 04/14/2006 1:08:44 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

There is a move to give the patriarchate of the orthodox church the status of independent nation.

In addition there was a thread here on FR about restoring Agia Sofia to christians as a condition of EU membership.


33 posted on 04/14/2006 1:59:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rome2000

"Well one thing for sure, Judas WAS a Democrat."

That's an interesting leap of logic, given that the Democratic party in the U.S. didn't exist until almost 1800 years after judas' death.

I've read the Gospels on numerous occasions, and I don't recall reading any passage where Our Lord registered a party preference.


34 posted on 04/14/2006 2:23:27 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Ciexyz
I just find it astonishing that the slant of the musical never dawned on me when I as a college student saw it some 35 years ago.

Ditto. Somehow or other, the expression - 'Wisdom comes with age' - takes on a new meaning. :-)

35 posted on 04/14/2006 4:21:07 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Thank you, Pope Benedict XVI, for speaking the truth! National Geographic should stick to what it does well, shows about animals, travel, etc., and stay out of the religion area.


36 posted on 04/14/2006 4:45:12 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (I wanna be an illegal alien so Washington will give me my "rights" in my own country.)
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To: VeniVidiAuferi
The result(s) of Judas having said "nope - I ain't doin' it" would have kind of made a mess out of all the OT prophecy concerning Christ's coming and his sacrifice and crucifixion, no?

Of course. Which means?

37 posted on 04/14/2006 4:49:59 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: NYer
Gospel of Judas?

LOL!

Next up: The contract Jesus made with the Romans to roll away the stone, bury his body in another part of the cemetary and then tell everyone they were sleeping.

38 posted on 04/14/2006 4:50:42 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

When it comes to human behaviour, there's nothing new under the sun.

Shifting principles, flexible morality, the expediency of the moment, and the betrayal of anyone else's person or property or soul for gain is not the exclusive and proprietary practice of today's Democrats.

They've just taken it to new levels.


39 posted on 04/14/2006 6:37:04 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: VeniVidiAuferi

I agree , what if Judas "saw the light " before he turned in Jesus and changed his mind ? Then where would the story go ? He was part of the grand plan .


40 posted on 04/14/2006 6:59:46 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: NYer

"Top church officials have called Santoro a martyr."

I'm a Southern Baptist boy. I'd call Rev. Santoro a martyr, too.


41 posted on 04/14/2006 7:03:16 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Jesus was GOP all the way and Judas was of the Jackass party.


42 posted on 04/14/2006 8:04:52 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: SJackson; Alouette; Salem

ping


43 posted on 04/14/2006 8:09:01 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Tiberius109
I agree , what if Judas "saw the light " before he turned in Jesus and changed his mind ? Then where would the story go ? He was part of the grand plan .

Yup ... in order for Christ's Church to come into being and thrive, Christ had to be crucified. In that sense, Judas was acting, wittingly or not, as an instrument of His will.

I've always wondered why, if Judas was really interested in the money, he ended up killing himself after Jesus' execution. If it were all about the money, wouldn't he have just taken off for Vegas or something? I don't necessarily buy the "Gospel of Judas", but I think there was definitely something more at work than Judas' greed.

On a related note, I did once read an alternative history where Pilate's wife demands that he spares Jesus' life and, not wanting to deal with her nagging, decideds to send Barabas to the cross instead ... leaving a very perplexed Jesus to go on his way.
44 posted on 04/14/2006 8:20:39 AM PDT by tanknetter
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45 posted on 04/14/2006 9:28:41 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: NYer
The Egyptian Coptic text, one of several ancient documents found in the Egyptian desert in 1970, was preserved and translated by a team of scholars. The text was made public last week.

Which doesn't stand up to scrutiny and it's very easy to debunk. I'm glad Pope Benedict called it like it is, “a double-crosser for whom money was more important than communion with Jesus, more important than God and his love."

46 posted on 04/14/2006 10:02:56 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Which doesn't stand up to scrutiny and it's very easy to debunk.

You're right. This text has been around for a long time and was already debunked in the 2nd century.

47 posted on 04/14/2006 10:42:59 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
As opposed to Christianity, which has been around for so many centuries and stood up to scrutiny, and still does.

Happy Easter, NYer.

48 posted on 04/14/2006 10:46:02 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Ciexyz

They did the play 'way back in high school, everyone thought it was 'cool' because of the music - then they sat down and read the lyrics: the play died right there on the table because nobody wanted to have anything to do with it.


49 posted on 04/14/2006 12:36:33 PM PDT by VeniVidiAuferi
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To: Ciexyz

Oh, hey (I just remembered it) - on the subject of theater:

Remember the movie Godspell? DID YOU KNOW that Christ was played by Victor Garber (alias Jack 'Spy Daddy' Bristow on ABC's 'Alias')? Think about THAT next week when the show comes back! :) Every time he comes in-scene, all I can ever see are the suspenders, striped pants, and the big red 'S'...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002VDU.01._PE24_.Godspell-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

"...Yes, it's all for the best!..."


50 posted on 04/14/2006 12:52:35 PM PDT by VeniVidiAuferi
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