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Path to Deportation Can Start With a Traffic Stop
NY Times ^ | 4/13/06 | Paul Vitello

Posted on 04/13/2006 10:14:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

While lawmakers in Washington debate whether to forgive illegal immigrants their trespasses, a small but increasing number of local and state law enforcement officials are taking it upon themselves to pursue deportation cases against people who are here illegally.

In more than a dozen jurisdictions, officials have invoked a little-used 1996 federal law to seek special federal training in immigration enforcement for their officers.

In other places, the local authorities are flagging some illegal immigrants who are caught up in the criminal justice system, sometimes for minor offenses, and are alerting immigration officials to their illegal status so that they can be deported.

--snip--

In Suffolk County, on Long Island, where a similar police training proposal was met with angry protests in 2004, county officials have quietly put a system in place that uses sheriff's deputies to flag illegal immigrants in the county jail population.

In Putnam County, N.Y., about 50 miles north of Manhattan, eight illegal immigrants who were playing soccer in a school ball field were arrested on Jan. 9 for trespassing and held for the immigration authorities.

As an example of the uneven results that sometimes occur in such cross-hatches of local and federal law enforcement, the seven immigrants who were able to make bail before those agents arrived went free. The one who could not make bail in time, a 33-year-old roofer and father of five, has been in federal detention in Pennsylvania ever since.

"I took an oath to protect the people of this county, and that means enforcing the laws of the land," said Donald B. Smith, the Putnam County sheriff. "We have a situation in our country where our borders are not being adequately protected, and that leaves law enforcement people like us in a very difficult situation."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deportation; dhpl; lawenforcement; path; trafficstop
Titled on Drudge as

LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT BEGINS A CRACKDOWN ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS...

1 posted on 04/13/2006 10:14:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

BACK TO THE TOP!


2 posted on 04/13/2006 10:17:44 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh my goodness!
Enforcing the laws already on the books.

What a concept!

< /sarc >

3 posted on 04/13/2006 10:20:04 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: NormsRevenge
forgive illegal immigrants their trespasses

Trespassing? How about breaking and entering?

4 posted on 04/13/2006 10:20:24 PM PDT by opinionator
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To: TigersEye; freedumb2003; rolling_stone; ideas_over_party

ping


5 posted on 04/13/2006 10:22:23 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: NormsRevenge
Bail for the eighth man, Juan Jimeniz, a roofer, was set at $3,000 because he was not able to provide his home address?????
6 posted on 04/13/2006 10:23:20 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: NormsRevenge

or this http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614825/posts


7 posted on 04/13/2006 10:24:37 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Thatnks , the Sonora amigo had 30 some aliases from the 80s and likely as many deportation actions.. wow..


8 posted on 04/13/2006 10:43:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (May 1st: - PINKO DE MAYO / STINKO DE MAO)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is one reason why the LA protests didn't go anywhere near Costa Mesa! They have been checking ID and locking up illegals for years, unofficially. Just last month or so the city council voted to make it official!

The boys in blue love being able to do their job, securing citizens from those that would do the citizens harm.


9 posted on 04/13/2006 10:45:00 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: SFC Chromey

I had to snip the Costa Mesa mention in the article , unfortunately, Great job that the Costa Mesa Mayor and crew is doing.


10 posted on 04/13/2006 10:46:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (May 1st: - PINKO DE MAYO / STINKO DE MAO)
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To: NormsRevenge
In other places, the local authorities are flagging some illegal immigrants who are caught up in the criminal justice system, sometimes for minor offenses, and are alerting immigration officials to their illegal status so that they can be deported.

Good luck with having the immigration officials respond to the police when they call. This has been a big part of the problem and why many police dept's don't bother with illegals unless they break the law but even then, they may go to jail but are released back into the population.

11 posted on 04/13/2006 10:51:41 PM PDT by Texas Mom (When they kill enough of us will we finally start profiling??)
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To: SFC Chromey

"This is one reason why the LA protests didn't go anywhere near Costa Mesa!"

I hear what you're saying, but they did have rallies in Santa Ana. Wouldn't be hard to walk a few blocks in the wrong direction and be in Costa Mesa.

That would be just too bad, wouldn't it?


12 posted on 04/13/2006 10:55:21 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: NormsRevenge

bfl


13 posted on 04/13/2006 11:03:45 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Publius6961; NormsRevenge

<< Oh my goodness!

Enforcing the laws already on the books.

What a concept!

< /sarc > >>

Hear! Hear!


14 posted on 04/13/2006 11:24:42 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: NormsRevenge

ping


15 posted on 04/14/2006 12:29:25 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: NormsRevenge
Our Arizona Legislature just passed such a law for the state, and our governor Napalitno (Anita Hill's lawyer in the C. Thomas hearings) has said she will veto it, for she has no money to fund it. She is an old lefty 8!tch from way back.
16 posted on 04/14/2006 12:51:56 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: opinionator
Like the joke about Bill and the Hitlery speeding, ran off the road and hit two conservatives. One was knocked over a fence into the brush, and the other went through the windshield. The first one was charged with leaving the scene of an accident, the other for breaking and entering.
17 posted on 04/14/2006 12:57:26 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: NormsRevenge

The path to deportation actually starts when they cross the border illegally


18 posted on 04/14/2006 1:00:56 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: 5Madman2
The path to deportation actually starts when they cross the border illegally

Couldn't that be classified as a hate-crime against humanity?

(/rolling eyed sarcasm)

19 posted on 04/14/2006 1:08:46 AM PDT by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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To: NormsRevenge

As Ann Coulter so lucidly pointed out on the O'Reilly Factor tonight, we can clean out the illegal aliens among us at the job interview, the hospital, at social service agencies, and in situations like this.

As she mentioned, Mohammad Atta was stopped for a traffic ticket.

I have thoroughly had it with the politicians in Washington, from the arch criminal Ted Kennedy who created the latest abortion of an "immigration bill", to John McCain who states that Americans are too lazy to pick lettuce at $50.00 per hour, to President Bush who refuses to enforce the laws he swore an oath to uphold, to Hillery Clinton the Presidentress in waiting, shilling to the illegals and their supporters on the far left.

I'm tired of having to choose between Democrats and Democrat light.

Its time for Americans to take back their government. It belongs to us, not to the pandering politicians who are resolutely ignoring the laws, their responsibilities to the public and nation, the wishes of the overwhelming mass of their constitutents, and all social logic in sucking up to illegals and the employers who exploit them for slave wages and no benefits.

Read the latest issue of the Austin Kiplinger Letter.

Kiplinger is the mouthpiece for corporate interests who put profit before conscience. Kiplinger calls for more illegal aliens or our economy will collapse. He transparently equates illegal invaders with legal immigrants. He lauds the fact that Congress has backed off aggrevating the Red Chinese, so Bush has a better chance to work out a trade deal with these killers in a future meeting at the White House.

He bemoans the fact that some federal law enacted several years ago (Sorbanes Oxley ??) is making it difficult for big corporations and favoring smaller privately owned business entities. America was built on American labor and on American small businesses, not on international conglomerates whose sole allegiance is to a bigger profit for themselves

People like Kiplinger represents the worst kind of selfish capitalism which encourages and welcomes foreign law-breakers and exports American jobs to third world foreign ratholes, and sees no problem in helping to improve the economy of a hostile and recalcitrant Red China with American jobs and American money so they can build up a military establishment to threaten us and the entire world.

When you view the growing mass of illegal invaders who flout our laws, refuse to assimilate, insist WE speak THEIR language, call for Aztlan or La Raza and attack traditonal American values and social norms, resmember Austin Kiplinger. People like him are bringing them here to further their goals of one-world globalism.


20 posted on 04/14/2006 1:28:57 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

"...John McCain who states that Americans are too lazy to pick lettuce at $50.00 per hour..."

He is such a codescending jerk. I heard this tape on Rush, and if the McCainiac attempts to run for president I hope to hear it over, and over, and over again.

Let a million lettuce pickers enter, but let it be done LEGALLY! And as for $50 a hour, does he really think that will ever be the prevailing wage for lettuce pickers?

Better we should all sell beer, like his wife.


21 posted on 04/14/2006 2:30:51 AM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: NormsRevenge

BTTT


22 posted on 04/14/2006 3:10:36 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: NormsRevenge

The rat, the ratmedia, the communists, the pimple faced kids and the illegal aliens can fool themselves, but the backlash is rolling to a town near them.


23 posted on 04/14/2006 5:43:08 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Everyday brings a new reason to distrust Hillary Clinton.)
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To: jocon307
There are already times of the year when iceberg lettuce sells for over a dollar a head here in the Heartland. So, people avoid it, it turns brown, gets cleaned up by removing the outer leaves & the core and ends up in the prepared deli salad for that day.

I am tired of being threatened by high produce prices. Much of our winter produce already is imported, from what I can tell.

Except in late summer, during peak harvest, prices are already high. A few dimes more would be a worthwhile price to pay for paying American citizens to harvest.

My thought has been to turn fields into Pick Your Own and to also have temporary picking jobs available for flexible periods of time. There used to be tobacco jobs available here to young people from planting through harvest that paid for shoes/clothes, used cars and college tuition costs for those willing to do hard work. How many people would be willing to work 3-4 hours at a time a few days a week for the harvest period? I would bet enough to do the job if the pay was $10/hr or so, or double the minimum wage, depending on location. Farm workers are organized and have been for 30 years. Do union workers work on piece rate or for below minimum wage?

I know many older women who pick their own strawberries at commercial farms every year and then freeze them or use them to make jam.

By doing all this, I bet we could expose the lies about "jobs Americans won't do" and $5/head lettuce prices. There is also a supply of gourmet bagged salad greens at nearly $3/bag that sell very well. Decent tomatoes are already almost $3/lb in the winter at discount stores, while ordinary tomatoes can be as low as $.68/lb. People still buy them and there is a plentiful supply. Canned tomato products are comparatively cheap.

I am not even sure any longer if we need masses of guest workers. I fear they just don't go home, stay for the benefits and I am pretty sure that some of them are voting illegally.

None of this is about produce prices. It is good to have McCain exposed on this issue. I do not want him as even a candidate and I would not vote for him. I used to say I would if he was the R nominee, but I have read too much about him. He is unstable and I do not trust him as POTUS. He also appears to be in the pocket of the large produce growers, meat packers and whomever else is looking for cheaper labor.
24 posted on 04/14/2006 6:47:19 AM PDT by reformedliberal (May 1st, 2006 is American Citizen Shop 'Til You Drop Day!)
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25 posted on 04/14/2006 7:07:03 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: NormsRevenge

It's a start....


26 posted on 04/14/2006 7:07:36 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Feds will probably threaten to withhold Highway Funds.


27 posted on 04/14/2006 7:08:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: NormsRevenge

With all the uproar and outrage and claims that Americans are united against illegals the real info here is that A DOZEN jurisdictions out of tens of thousands have joined this program. WHERE are ALL the rest?


28 posted on 04/14/2006 7:10:07 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: NormsRevenge
George A. Terezakis, a Long Island immigration lawyer, said that in his practice, he had seen a trend. "The heat is definitely getting turned up. Not just on criminals, but against people I would consider charged with relatively minor offenses: Having an invalid driver's license, a fake Social Security card.

Silly me, and I thought that a having a fake Social Security card was a serious offense. Had I gone to law school, I would have known that! /end sarcasm

29 posted on 04/14/2006 7:11:08 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes, but what about the "asylum cities" that refuse to investigate, let alone incarcerate illegal aliens?


30 posted on 04/14/2006 7:13:12 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: HiJinx

ping


31 posted on 04/14/2006 7:17:59 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: NormsRevenge

....this is how it should be done. No "mass deportations" needed.

Just a steady stream of those picked up during routine traffic stops by local and state police. Let ICE go after the gangs and where more than a few illegals are known to congregate.

No fuss, no muss....just good law enforcement work.


Combine this with a wall...and we might get a handle on the problem before too long.


32 posted on 04/14/2006 7:42:05 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: NormsRevenge

BTTT


33 posted on 04/14/2006 7:57:19 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This should have been encouraged long ago! Ann Coulter
proposed this very thing on O'Reilly, last night.


34 posted on 04/14/2006 8:58:10 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Cut off all Federal Funding to those cities. The Solomon Amendment is the precedent: don't follow the law, lose funding. . .


35 posted on 04/14/2006 10:42:08 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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 T H U N D E R B A L L 





36 posted on 04/26/2006 11:38:15 AM PDT by devolve ((----Kimberly Guilfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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To: opinionator
It's a play on words.

Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. The writer wants you to feel the Biblical overtone so your heart will feel warm and fluffy. Unfortunately he has forgotten about God's penchant for righteousness.
37 posted on 04/26/2006 11:43:37 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ditto.


38 posted on 04/26/2006 11:48:00 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: devolve

39 posted on 04/26/2006 1:32:51 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: devolve

You captured McNoodle so perfectly, hey would you do that to Turbin Durbin?


40 posted on 04/26/2006 7:39:27 PM PDT by JustPiper (It is all about Stupidity Stupid!)
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To: potlatch


Raw clams & raw oysters are eaten live.....

A little lemon juice -


41 posted on 04/26/2006 7:55:53 PM PDT by devolve ((----Kimberly Guilfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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To: devolve

I've seen many a raw oyster being eaten, but not me!

Wrap each one in half a slice of bacon and put under the broiler a minute or two and they are great for company - or anytime.


42 posted on 04/26/2006 8:14:02 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: devolve

That is the perfect reply!
I love the addition of the beer.

That McRat creeps me out....ugh.
So, it's perfect!

Well done! ;o)


43 posted on 04/26/2006 9:20:57 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: dixiechick2000; potlatch


Budweiser beer too

That's what McRat married into

A huge Budweiser operation


44 posted on 04/26/2006 10:07:55 PM PDT by devolve ((----Kimberly Guilfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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To: opinionator
Trespassing? How about breaking and entering?

How about vehicular homicide and child rape?

45 posted on 05/10/2006 4:00:54 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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