Youths are destroying Oslo (Norway)

1 posted on 04/14/2006 6:57:07 AM PDT by Eurotwit

This seemed to have become an epidemic the last couple of years in most European cities over the last couple of years. A couple of links from today.

Brussels:

The boy was waiting with a friend for another friend's train at Brussels Central, when two other youths approached them in the ticket hall and attempted to snatch the victim's mp3 player at about 4.30pm.

The boy was stabbed in the cardiac region when he refused to hand over the mp3 and died later in hospital.

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=24&story_id=29312&name=Safety+doubts+raised+inwake+of+station+murder

Three sixteen year olds in Malmo was robbed and threatened and forced to undress, whilst it all was filmed with a cell phone camera. The perpetrators later robbed a 14 year old boy. The pressed a knife against his throat and stole his cell phone.

http://sydsvenskan.se/skane/eslov/article153226.ece

"We are fighting a war against the Swedes. Power for me is to get the Swedes to lie down and kiss my feet." Young immigrants in Sweden on why they engage in robberies.

www.sociologi.lu.se/krim/vi_krigar.pdf

2 posted on 04/14/2006 6:57:21 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)

isn't multi-culturalism grand?

3 posted on 04/14/2006 7:01:24 AM PDT by celejrm313

All suspects are of foreign origin.

Could they be ... adherents of the Religion of Peace?

4 posted on 04/14/2006 7:01:27 AM PDT by Rummyfan

”They got into the car and threatened us. One of them laid his arm around my neck and squeezed. We saw no other opportunity other than to get out of the car and run away. They took off with the car, my money and all my valuables”, says Ole-Even Hebbenes (19).

“When we met them in court, the shook our hands and seemed really nice.

“When we met them in court, ~~the shook our hands and seemed really nice~~ I pulled out a pistol and shot them in the head. (How this SHOULD have read).

5 posted on 04/14/2006 7:01:37 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)

To: Eurotwit; rmlew

6 posted on 04/14/2006 7:01:37 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

Thanks for the translation -- extremely interesting. Even the Europeans cannot have missed the connection between "foreign youts" and their... er, antisocial tendencies. The past year's spate of violence is a wake-up call.

And I begin to think that Europe may well wake up in a manner that the youts consider to be rather impolite.

7 posted on 04/14/2006 7:01:57 AM PDT by r9etb

"sent to jail in order to protect society. "

These miscreants are the scum of the earth and should be dealth with as brutally as possible.

Send them all back to the hell holes from which they came.

Any European country that is still letting these animals into their populations is asking for big trouble.

8 posted on 04/14/2006 7:01:58 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)

The 17 year old Somalian has several serious crimes on his conscience, but the worst is probably the rape of a young girl at Hoybraaten (Oslo suburb) one year ago. Oslo Court states that the rape was unusually brutal, and lasted for several hours. The young girl was threatened with a knife and beaten. The Somalian choked the girl so brutally and for so long, that the medical doctor who afterwards treated the girl, said that she could have died.

1000 years ago, Norwegians were known for a practice called the "Bloody Eagle." I say it's time to bring it back, starting with this Somalian individual.

9 posted on 04/14/2006 7:03:01 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn

To: SirJohnBarleycorn

One day the non muslim world will realize that Milosevic was ahead of his time.

10 posted on 04/14/2006 7:08:22 AM PDT by muslims=borg (You don't own property in New Jersey; you rent it from your local school board.)

Did it ever occur to them to deport these animals and their families back to their lovely countries of origin? Seems to me a government's first priority ought to be protecting its citizens, not worrying about the unhappy childhoods experience by rapists and other predators. They have screwed up their own countries, and now they've come to Europe and are screwing up the countries that have taken them in.

11 posted on 04/14/2006 7:09:30 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Thanks for the report. It was interesting that the 'youth' were actually identified as of Somali and Moroccan extraction, etc, fairly early in the article. Is this typical of Norwegian media, or is the situation so dire and well-known to the public that the normal European media whitewash of muslim behavior is being abandoned?

12 posted on 04/14/2006 7:10:39 AM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")

Excerpt from another site: CRIME VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS There is an enormous number of Americans who have been harmed by the criminals who pass through the nation's open borders. For that reason, this section can only provide a symbolic tribute to the many unnamed victims who have been killed, raped, robbed, crippled and otherwise personally violated. It is particularly shocking that even in post-911 America, the government still refuses to protect the people in the most basic ways from the world's terrorists and criminals who enter at will to do as they please. The borders remain a sieve while the human carnage from crime perpetrated from illegal aliens continues to mount. In another stunner of INS malfeasance, the agency often cannot even manage to deport dangerous criminal aliens when they reach the ends of their prison terms.

In another case of justice denied, the murderer of Phoenix high school student Tanee Natividad merely crossed the border into Mexico to escape law enforcement. A local television station was able to track down the murderer in a bar just a few miles across the border without much effort. Max LaMadrid has no reason to hide because the Mexican government actually helps violent criminals escape American justice. According to Arizona Attorney General Janet Napolitano, action by the Mexican supreme court making it more difficult to extradite criminals has "created an incentive for people to flee into Mexico as a safe harbor." At one time, Mexico would not extradite criminals who might be subject to the death penalty; the Mexican court recently extended this "protection" to any Mexican who might receive a life sentence, thereby giving a free pass to rapists, kidnappers and child molesters. In fact, the investigating reporter found 100 cases of violent criminals from the Phoenix area escaping into Mexico in just the last few years. Meanwhile, the grieving family of 16-year-old Tanee gets no justice — like thousands of others in the southwest.

At the left is shown Darlene Squires, the distraught mother of a disabled teenager, one of two girls who were raped on October 24, 2002, by three members of a Salvadoran street gang located in Somerville, Massachusetts. Aged 17 and 14, both victims are deaf and one has cerebral palsy. Mrs. Squires believed that the attacks were a retaliation against her family because her husband confronted the young men after they had harassed the Squires son. Later reports indicated the men arrested for the crime were illegal aliens.Law enforcement officials were concerned about increased violence from the MS-13 gang which was "believed to have originated in part with soldiers and their families who left El Salvador." Local residents estimate the gang has more than 100 members in their community. An update a few months after the Squires crime showed that the gang problem in the community has only gotten worse.

13 posted on 04/14/2006 7:11:10 AM PDT by texas_mrs (Immigrants made this country great - Illegal immigrants are now destroying it)

"Could they be ... adherents of the Religion of Peace?"

The one kid who attended a Quranic school where he was frequently beaten is a prime tip-off.

14 posted on 04/14/2006 7:12:26 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)

No one likes to hear of the abuses and violence perpetrated against young people anywhere in the world. But Americans are slowly learning a critical lesson.

"...When we met them in court, the(y) shook our hands and seemed really nice. Weird. But, I am not going to be bothered to think about it anymore. I just want to forget about it”, says Nebbenes..."

What Nebbenes doesn't apparently care a whit about is what will happen to the next dozen victims, simply because she thinks that the street crud "seem really nice" once they are caught. She has the right just to forget about it.

What will she say, however, when her younger sister is brutalized and killed for the enjoyment of such crud?

I suspect that she, along with the other good liberals in Europe, will just want to forget about it.

Don't call America, once it sweeps over you, Norway.

Just do the job in front of you. Clean your own house; or else prepare, on your knees, for when these crud reach their late twenties.

15 posted on 04/14/2006 7:13:06 AM PDT by pickrell (Old dog, new trick...sort of)

LEWISTON, Maine -- Every week, another four or five Somali families arrive in this workaday city on the Androscoggin River.

They are refugees from the clan-wracked ruins of their homeland on the Horn of Africa, from years of waiting in camps in Kenya. And they are migrants from their place of first resettlement in America, more often than not trekking 1,000 miles from the heat and multihued humanity of metropolitan Atlanta to this sparse, wintry, whitest of all states.

They are nomads, their ancient instincts honed to a 21st century edge. Pioneers in a new world, they discovered Lewiston and claimed a bit of it for themselves.

"It's like finding a small island in the middle of the Pacific," says Mohammed Abdi, who last year moved here from Decatur, Ga., and was quickly hired as the liaison between the city's schools and the burgeoning Somali community. "We put it on the map."

Not since 1965, when Muhammad Ali knocked out Sonny Liston a minute-46 into the first round of a heavyweight championship fight here, has Lewiston gained so much attention "from away," as Mainers warily describe the world beyond the state's borders.

At the start of 2001, not a single Somali lived in Lewiston. The old textile mill city of 35,000 had been losing population for 20 years, and in the 2000 Census counted but 361 black residents.

Today, there are some 1,000 Somalis, black and Muslim, in this sheltered redoubt of Franco-American Catholicism, where the 4 p.m. French Mass still packs them in at St. Peter and Paul Church. Lewiston has its first mosque, operating from a storefront on Lisbon Street, which en route to a neighboring town becomes a highway dedicated to the memory of Sgt. Thomas Field, a native son killed in Somalia in the battle depicted in the book and movie "Black Hawk Down."

The newcomers are arriving from several Somali communities in the United States, but mostly from Clarkston, Ga., an old railroad town outside Atlanta that in the last decade was transformed into an ersatz Ellis Island for refugees from every ravaged corner of the globe.

In their exodus, they say they are looking for peace and quiet, cheaper housing, a more benevolent welfare system, better schools and a place to raise their children -- families of seven or more are common -- with fewer perils and temptations. That they are leaving a metro area renowned as an African-American mecca to resettle in Maine, home to fewer than 7,000 blacks in 2000, is less a matter of irony than intent, given the prickly state of their relations with African-Americans and a desire to protect their children from assimilating too quickly.

"`Kids wearing bandannas, pulling their pants down, walking funny. It's no good," says Abdiaziz Ali, a buoyant, boyish-looking 31-year-old father of five who came to Lewiston in April 2001.

Ali, the son of a physician in Somalia, was hired as a welfare caseworker and is now the nimble impresario of Lewiston's Somali influx, greeting new arrivals, signing them up for emergency financial assistance, finding them places to live. When Mohammed Abdi arrived, Ali made the introductions that led to his job.

There is nothing new about immigrants collecting together and re-creating community.

But the Somali migration to Lewiston is different in tempo and coordination. The process is organically Somali, merging the timeless habits of a communal, nomadic, oral society (there was no written language until 1972) with a sophisticated cost-benefit appraisal of which American community best suits their needs.

It's executed at warp speed courtesy of the Internet, telephone cards and air travel. But it all begins with the Somali concept of "sahan."

"Sahan in Somali means `send out,"' Abdi explains. It refers to the nomadic practice of sending out young men, scouts, in search of storm clouds. When they find them they return to their people and lead them and their herds to fresh water.

"The idea of sahan means a very systematic reconnaissance of the conditions of where you are going to go next," says Lidwein Kapteijns, who chairs the history department at Wellesley College and writes extensively on Somalia. And, she adds, "Somalis never stay in one place very long."

Fed up with life in Atlanta -- he was robbed twice -- Abdiaziz Ali said members of the Somali community there researched other places on the Internet, comparing crime rates, the cost of housing, test scores. Then they sent scouts to a handful of cities -- Kansas City, Mo., Nashville, Tenn., San Diego, Houston and El Paso in Texas, and Portland and Lewiston in Maine.

Maine was preferred, and Portland was full.

"These people are very sophisticated," says Mohammed Maye, president of the African Community & Refugee Center in Clarkston. "They read, they share information, they know state-by-state which state is good for this and which state is good for that. They see the living standard of the people in Maine and the educational level is very high and they say, `Why am I here?"'

The decision to move became even easier after Sept. 11, when many Atlanta-area Somalis who were scraping by in $7-an-hour jobs related to the airport and tourism were thrown out of work.

By last winter, Maye, who has a map of downtown Lewiston on his office wall in Clarkston, was advising folks, especially women and children, "go to Maine." He opened a part-time office on Lisbon Street.

"Maine is crazy cold," says Abdullahi Abdullahi, president of the new Somali Community Development Organization in Clarkston. But, he says, "the welfare system is much better."

Indeed, in moving from Georgia to Maine, Somalis are trading one of the nation's least generous welfare systems for one of its most generous.

Lewiston provides general assistance to anyone in need, splitting the cost with the state. Such relief was unavailable in Clarkston. In Georgia, there is a four-year time limit for receiving Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. In Maine it's five, but even that can be extended. About a quarter of Lewiston's Somali families receive that form of welfare, according to the state. And in Maine, a state-funded program assists single parents while they attend college.

There is a waiting list for public housing in Lewiston, but not nearly as long as back in Georgia. About a third of the more than 90 apartments at Hillview, Lewiston's largest public housing project, have Somali tenants, and about 35 more Somali families have received Section 8 vouchers, which subsidize the rent on private apartments.

On the first Monday after a new Somali family's arrival in town, Cheryl Hamilton, a 25-year-old cultural skills trainer who grew up across the river in Auburn, does a welcome-to-Lewiston slide show. On Tuesday, it's a bus tour.

A city brochure put out in April and titled "Who Are Our New Somali Neighbors?" informs readers in bold print that Somalians are "totally against terrorism" and "take great pride" in providing for their own families.

But many in Lewiston, at least on this last point, remain unconvinced.

Fernand "Frenchy" Langlois owns Frenchy's barbershop, adjoining the mosque on Lisbon Street. "Give them a chance," he tells his customers, who converse in a fluid patois of French and English. "Wait two years, then decide."

Langlois came to Lewiston more than 40 years ago, recruited for mill work from his home in Cornwall, Ontario. He has yet to become an American citizen.

When he arrived, Lewiston was producing a quarter of all American-made textiles. In Auburn it was shoes. But that is all gone. "Then there was more work than there were people," Langlois says. "Today, there are more people than there is work."

Lewiston has rebounded with an economy built on health care, banking and other services. But Renee Bernier, the City Council president, says the market for unskilled labor with limited English is gone.

Bernier, who has a security business, says that when she tried to hire 30 Somalis at $8 an hour to hold "stop and slow" signs at road construction sites, the few who showed interest wanted to work only from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. She was further irked when some Somalis sought low-interest loans for businesses downtown -- without good credit or a track record -- under an obscure city program.

"How the hell do they find out about this stuff?" she asks.

Like Bernier, Janice Plourde, director of curriculum for the Lewiston schools and widow of the city's former mayor, believes resentment will grow if the Somalis are not seen as pulling their weight.

"It isn't about color. It isn't about diversity. It's about welfare. It isn't about anything else," Plourde says. "The expectation is that everybody works. It's the theme of the place."

Fulfilling that expectation is complicated because so many of the Somali families are single mothers and children, the fathers dead, missing, still in Africa or still in Atlanta.

"The men don't like it here -- it's too cold or too quiet or too behind," says Fatuma Hussein, whose own husband still drives a taxi in Atlanta, making frequent visits to her and their three young children. She founded United Somali Women, whose purpose is to teach English, train day care providers and persuade employers to hire Somali women.

When Mohammed Abdi arrived in the United States he was resettled by Catholic Charities north of Atlanta in what he termed a war zone between Vietnamese and Mexican gangs, with no Somalis in sight. He moved to Decatur and others of his wife's family joined them.

"She was like a queen surrounded by family," says Abdi, who resumed work abroad for Save the Children in refugee and disaster relief. On returning from an earthquake in India last year, he discovered that his family was moving to Lewiston the very next day, following the flight of others.

"The first impression the first morning I drove in here was like, `What on earth, where on earth is this place?"' Abdi recalls thinking. "How did they end up here? Who found this place?"

Lewiston's first Somali was Awil Odowa Bile, now the president of Somali Community Services, the city's first Somali organization.

Bile, a customs officer in Somalia, had spent nearly a decade in a refugee camp in Nairobi when he learned that he was being let into the United States. When he started to make inquiries in the camp he was told, "Our countrymen have moved to a small state in the north named Maine, a peaceful place."

After being resettled in Pittsburgh, Bile moved to Portland but found it full. He, his wife and six children spent four months in a shelter before officials in Lewiston invited them to come live there, where housing was still available.

And, as Abdi says, word spreads quickly among Somalis. "Everybody talks to everybody. They call each other. They ask questions."

Abdi warmed to Lewiston within two weeks of arriving. He liked that his children could play in the park without him or his wife feeling obliged to watch them. He liked seeing the same police cruiser with the same cop in it eight times a day.

Says Abdiaziz Ali, "It was a sleepy town before. We light the city a little bit."

On a recent glorious summer evening, Kennedy Park in the city's heart, its long verdant field bounded by church spires, city buildings and tenements, was alight with odd and beautiful juxtapositions.

At one end, near the Civil War statue and the Victorian bandstand, a small older white man in a gray suit led a holy roller revival. "There's only two places that people are going to end up with and that's heaven and hell, heaven and hell, no ifs, ands or buts."

On the other side, Muslim women, Somalis in bright long robes and head scarves of lavender, green, red and yellow, sat on the grass while others pushed small children with joyful abandon to the musical squeaking of the swings and the rhythm of young Somali men playing basketball on the nearby courts. From the distance the holy rollers sang out, "Joy, joy, in my Father's house."

That Saturday night is the first Somali wedding in Lewiston. A Somali woman living at Hillview has arranged the marriage of her brother from California and a cousin just arrived from Africa.

For the engagement ceremony, the men gather in a beautifully decorated basement -- each man's arrival announced by the eager trilling of the women upstairs -- to seal the deal, hear instructions for the husband recited from the Quran, and share cookies, tea, goat meat and bread. The men talk about their children, lamenting how some of the younger ones cannot speak Somali. "TV and school," says one, explaining.

Afterward, on the way to the mosque for another meal of celebration, Abdi tells his teenage son, who has just witnessed the ceremony, that this is how Somalis marry. He pauses, then tells his son it is also possible that he could choose the right mate.

The Somali migration to Lewiston has not been without a few incidents of anger, name-calling and fights. One man put a sign on his lawn expressing his displeasure with their presence. That angered Kaileigh Tara, who was mayor when the Somalis first started arriving.

"It blows my mind that they can't connect the dots, that to sit here in their little world and say, `We don't want these other people here, the rest of the world can take care of itself,' that that's why we were attacked on Sept. 11, that that's how we get airplanes slamming into buildings," Tara says.

But, in the spirit of the sahan, Abdiaziz Ali figures if the mood sours or if Somalis keep coming and Lewiston, like Portland before it, fills to overflowing, they will simply move on to the next city or town, to Augusta or Bath.

He is not worried. "We can spread out," he says, "anywhere we want."

16 posted on 04/14/2006 7:13:07 AM PDT by Leisler (Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim.)

To: muslims=borg

17 posted on 04/14/2006 7:13:46 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

Well, it hasn't occurred to OUR govenment to listen to the citizens about illegal immigrants.

Why should theirs be any different?

18 posted on 04/14/2006 7:13:49 AM PDT by bordergal

The joys of letting muslims immigrate to your country...

19 posted on 04/14/2006 7:14:09 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)

Did it ever occur to them to deport these animals and their families back to their lovely countries of origin?

Because of globalism and "free trade" treaties, countries can no longer stop "migrants" from going where they will. The "free traders", the UN the World Bank ad nauseum all say people have the "right" to migrate. So how can you deport a criminal alien if all the global institutions who aren't supposed to have any real power, say that he can't be removed?

20 posted on 04/14/2006 7:14:37 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)

I can't believe how far and how fast so many proud and self-reliant people have fallen to parasitic elements. How did this happen? Who is to blame? This is cultural humiliation, pure and simple.

21 posted on 04/14/2006 7:15:03 AM PDT by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)

Norwegians live in a fog. Norway has the highest absenteeism in Europe and the highest paid vacation time. I don't think people there give a damn anymore. All the oil money has made them incredibly complacent. When the oil runs out that place is screwd.

22 posted on 04/14/2006 7:15:23 AM PDT by muslims=borg (You don't own property in New Jersey; you rent it from your local school board.)

Nah... in this case foreign extraction means Eskimos. Gotta watch out for those eskimos you know... too much whale blubber...

23 posted on 04/14/2006 7:19:22 AM PDT by Ronin

It has become fairly common these days. It is really impossible to hide anymore.

Incidently, one of the political parties in Norway used an election poster last year with the words "the criminal was of foreign origin". That has long been the medias catchprase. This party, which the Guardian newspaper calls neofascists, is now polling in as the largest party in Norway with close to 35 percent of the vote.

BTW: The Guardian is spouting crap as usual. The party is mainly libertarian, but strong on crime and out-of-control immigration. The party is also very pro-US, and pro-Israel.

Cheers.

24 posted on 04/14/2006 7:19:26 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)

13-year old rapist? Jail him with a pedophile.

25 posted on 04/14/2006 7:20:50 AM PDT by AntiGovernment (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)

There certainly a massive wakening up at the grassroot level. The government elites are trying to supress it to varying degrees. ie. In denmark, not that much. in Sweden, to a high degree. In Norway, somewhere in between.

For instance. In the Swedish article I linked to in post 2, there is no mention of ethnicity, but "everyone" knows that these type of crimes are commited pretty much exclusively by immigrant youth.

Cheers.

26 posted on 04/14/2006 7:22:38 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)

An old coworker of mine married a Brit about 2 years ago and it was their desire to live in France (she is a huge fan of everything French). I jus got word they are returning to nyc - living there wasn't nearly as good as they thought. She was living there during the riots and I think the genuine danger of living in Europe hit home.

27 posted on 04/14/2006 7:22:51 AM PDT by HitmanLV (Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)

A few items that jumped out at me:

"The Norwegian-Moroccan was on trip with city social services when he raped another 13 year old girl in the toilet at a major Oslo Cinema. Also this girl was raped in a very humiliating manner, and is suffering..."

Is it possible to be raped in a non-humiliating manner?

AND

"The Court showed leniency because the youths were young..."

Really, the youths were young? WHODATHUNKIT? I bet when they were born, they were really young.

28 posted on 04/14/2006 7:23:31 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)

To: muslims=borg

29 posted on 04/14/2006 7:24:33 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero » with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)

To: Caveman Lawyer; Eurotwit

This is cultural humiliation, pure and simple.

It is interesting to compare some basic elements of these cultures. Both Muslims and Hispanics value going around in large groups to physically attack weaker/out numbered victims.

Our Western industrialized nations have valued individual strength and a "fair fight", but also created supremely organized violence-dedicated organizations to handle all the brutality in life. In fact, we mop the floor with those other cruder cultures WHEN the other part of our culture goes into action, that is specialized, brutal, and well armed enforcement services.

But stop the internal enforcement (or the overseas war prosecution) and we will either have to start traveling in armed packs, skipping school and work to fight our group pitched battles on the streets, or we'll have to insist that the organizations we've invented to deal with just these kinds of threats DO THIER DAMN JOBS!!!!

30 posted on 04/14/2006 7:24:37 AM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))

"The 17 year old Somalian has several serious crimes on his conscience,"
That's an odd pc way of putting it! they're assuming he has a conscience.

31 posted on 04/14/2006 7:25:36 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")

How is this any different from all the fatherless black male teens moving from major urban areas to small towns and cities throughout the United States?

32 posted on 04/14/2006 7:26:42 AM PDT by D-Chivas

Fast public televised executions in the main square should help. Personally I prefer a slow tortuous form of execution but then there are those who prefer neat and quick. Choices, choices, choices!

33 posted on 04/14/2006 7:26:48 AM PDT by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)

Let the mutts in and what do you expect?

34 posted on 04/14/2006 7:27:28 AM PDT by Pittsburg Phil

What Europe clearly needs is more Muslims.

(sarcasm)

35 posted on 04/14/2006 7:32:24 AM PDT by Emmet Fitzhume ("It is better to be alone than in bad company.")

36 posted on 04/14/2006 7:32:52 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)

To: Paleo Conservative

Slobodan Milosevic....The Serbian leader who was recently murdered by the U.N. in a U.N. jail.

37 posted on 04/14/2006 7:33:58 AM PDT by muslims=borg (You don't own property in New Jersey; you rent it from your local school board.)

Enforcement seems to be in various stages of falling apart in America and in Europe. Law enforcement is still pretty good where I live (NYC) but the attitudes of people here are shocking in their "tolerance" of truly assaultive behavior by certain individuals. As soon as that enforcement is unavailable, bam, we're dead. I abhor brutality and racist policies, but the failure of governments and more liberal-minded civilians to at least acknowledge the crimes committed by foreigners and deal with them firmly is going to lead to true brutality - either the mother of all backlashes or the complete breakdown of civil order. I am mystified as to the reasons why people who say they value peace and human rights above all else cannot see the trajectory that we're on.

39 posted on 04/14/2006 7:35:19 AM PDT by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)

Hey Ole, Lars and Inge -- diversity sucks!

40 posted on 04/14/2006 7:35:27 AM PDT by Dionysius (ACLU is the enemy)

I'm not able to find the link to the English version.

41 posted on 04/14/2006 7:35:34 AM PDT by Jason_b

Also this girl was raped in a very humiliating manner, and is suffering..." Is it possible to be raped in a non-humiliating manner?

That probably meant that she was anally raped.

42 posted on 04/14/2006 7:36:10 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)

My brother-in-law and sister-in-law who live in Oslo 2 have moved their 17 year old (very pretty) daughter to boarding school abroad.

43 posted on 04/14/2006 7:38:28 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)

To: muslims=borg

maybe in the battle but definitely not in the technique.

44 posted on 04/14/2006 7:39:40 AM PDT by kpp_kpp

To: Caveman Lawyer

There are examples in Sweden of vigilante groups being organised.

45 posted on 04/14/2006 7:40:15 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)

To: Caveman Lawyer

When they start raping their daughters and burning their churches in the name of Islam maybe then they will wake up. Oh yeah I forgot hardly anyone goes to church anymore in Europe.

46 posted on 04/14/2006 7:40:18 AM PDT by muslims=borg (You don't own property in New Jersey; you rent it from your local school board.)

To: Barney Gumble

or the throat based on the rest of the description

47 posted on 04/14/2006 7:40:39 AM PDT by kpp_kpp

Your are looking at the only translated English version in existance as far as I am aware. I just translated it.

Cheers.

48 posted on 04/14/2006 7:41:08 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)

To: Paleo Conservative

"Spirited Youths" no doubt.

49 posted on 04/14/2006 7:54:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)

Wow. The kid only got 1.5 yrs for a brutal rape of a child?

Unreal.

50 posted on 04/14/2006 7:57:03 AM PDT by Pessimist

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