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Another Day, Another Embarrassing Intelligence-Related Correction (NY Times correction)
Times Watch ^ | 4/14/2006 11:59:09 AM | Clay Waters

Posted on 04/14/2006 3:32:21 PM PDT by april15Bendovr

Another Day, Another Embarrassing Intelligence-Related Correction Posted by: Clay Waters 4/14/2006 11:59:09 AM

After correcting itself on the Lewis Libby leak yesterday, the Times on Friday corrects another Bush-related intelligence story by reporter Eric Lichtblau that brought much criticism from conservative bloggers like PowerLine.

This is what Lichtblau falsely claimed March 29: “In a rare glimpse into the inner workings of the secretive court, known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, several former judges who served on the panel also voiced skepticism at a Senate hearing about the president's constitutional authority to order wiretapping on Americans without a court order.”

Today the Times admits: “An article on March 29 about congressional hearings on the Bush administration's program of domestic eavesdropping referred imprecisely to testimony about the secretive court known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which requires warrants for eavesdropping under most circumstances. While two former judges said they believed that Mr. Bush was bound by federal laws governing intelligence gathering, they did not explicitly express skepticism about whether he has the constitutional authority to order wiretapping on Americans without a court order.”

As Times Watch pointed out at the time, “Lichtblau doesn’t quote any of the judges actually voicing that skepticism about Bush’s actions -- skepticism Lichtblau certainly feels, judging by his slanted reporting in the past.”


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KEYWORDS: cialeaks; correction; homelandsecurity; leaks; nsa; nyt; patriotleak
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1 posted on 04/14/2006 3:32:22 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

Where does the Times print corrections and retractions? Page A39?


2 posted on 04/14/2006 3:34:20 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Is that right next to the Want-ads?
3 posted on 04/14/2006 3:40:01 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Where does the Times print corrections and retractions? Page A39?

I think they print them under the gay "wedding" announcements.

4 posted on 04/14/2006 3:41:55 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: april15Bendovr
Sorry, but I think WE should SHOUT it from the rooftops...er...the internet....???

Today the Times admits: “An article on March 29 about congressional hearings on the Bush administration's program of domestic eavesdropping referred imprecisely to testimony about the secretive court known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which requires warrants for eavesdropping under most circumstances. While two former judges said they believed that Mr. Bush was bound by federal laws governing intelligence gathering, they did not explicitly express skepticism about whether he has the constitutional authority to order wiretapping on Americans without a court order.”

5 posted on 04/14/2006 3:42:57 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Its worse than that...

The Times reports it, AP picks it up and runs it. Thousands of newspapers and local news reports cover it...THEN the Times prints a retraction on page C14 and the thousands of media outlets feel no responsibility to retract since it was not their mistake.

We just had a letter to the editor in our local paper claiming that "Bush ordered the disclosure of Valerie Plame's identity".. where did he get that and where is the retraction?


6 posted on 04/14/2006 3:45:06 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: CFC__VRWC

yeah, so Republicans can't find the corrections and rub it in their faces.


7 posted on 04/14/2006 3:46:03 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: CFC__VRWC; Kenny Bunkport
I think I saw the retractions printed next to the article tittled

"More Layoffs at the New York Times

8 posted on 04/14/2006 3:46:56 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: goodnesswins

I do not think the shouting should be done by us, rather the
daily press briefings should begin by citing the corrections made by so many newspapers and page they were placed.


9 posted on 04/14/2006 3:47:00 PM PDT by pennboricua
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To: pennboricua
>>>... rather the daily press briefings should begin by citing the corrections made by so many newspapers and page they were placed.<<<

I like it. I can see the faces of the press now as Scott McClellan reads off the retractions in front of live TV......priceless!!

10 posted on 04/14/2006 3:52:17 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Get legal or get out!)
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To: pennboricua

"I do not think the shouting should be done by us, rather the
daily press briefings should begin by citing the corrections made by so many newspapers and page they were placed."

I think you have hit on a great strategy! Email it to the WH press office.


11 posted on 04/14/2006 3:55:17 PM PDT by RangerVetNam (Bill Clinton only lied to me. John Kerry lied about me!)
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To: RangerVetNam

Rush has it right in calling them the "drive by media".


12 posted on 04/14/2006 3:57:16 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: april15Bendovr
No biggie for the NYT, they still get 99% of their lies out there unchallenged.
13 posted on 04/14/2006 3:58:55 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: pinz-n-needlez; onyx; ohioWfan; Texasforever; BigSkyFreeper; Tamzee; mrs tiggywinkle; Dog; ...

Ping


14 posted on 04/14/2006 3:59:30 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: HardStarboard

... rather the daily press briefings should begin by citing the corrections made by so many newspapers and page they were placed.<<<

I like it. I can see the faces of the press now as Scott McClellan reads off the retractions in front of live TV......priceless!!


I agree and Scott McClellan should set it up as a quiz in front of the press corps by first asking "Truth or retraction" then poll how many goy it right.


15 posted on 04/14/2006 4:00:56 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: pennboricua

YES, you ARE correct....but, maybe, if we put it in bold it will allow those who peruse this site to have EASIER ACCESS to it, and USE IT! (That's why I do it - to unbury it in the myriad of replies.) But, I love your idea!


16 posted on 04/14/2006 4:01:57 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: HardStarboard

I am becoming quite disappointed with our party, it seems that being diplomatic is more inportant than being direct.


17 posted on 04/14/2006 4:02:00 PM PDT by pennboricua
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To: april15Bendovr

HA ha...
and the RATS take another one in the...

18 posted on 04/14/2006 4:02:40 PM PDT by Chode (1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT. American Hedonist ©®)
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To: aflaak

ping


19 posted on 04/14/2006 4:03:11 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Black ribbon on my IPW card in memory of PaulaB)
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To: april15Bendovr

bump


20 posted on 04/14/2006 4:04:14 PM PDT by JPJones (First and foremost: I'm a Freeper.)
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To: april15Bendovr

This "imprecision" was no mistake. Eff them.


21 posted on 04/14/2006 4:05:01 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: All

I need to make a retraction.

goy it right should be "got it right"


22 posted on 04/14/2006 4:05:28 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Chode

Great caption. I have no use for the NY Times. I would not even use it as toilet paper because I would be afraid I would catch something.


23 posted on 04/14/2006 4:07:07 PM PDT by jrooney (Ny Times - what a joke)
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To: jrooney
We cant even burn that liberal rag without being threatened with global warning.
24 posted on 04/14/2006 4:11:14 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: pennboricua

I LIKE that idea! I REALLY like that idea. Think anyone can get Scottie to do it?????

[sigh]


25 posted on 04/14/2006 4:14:21 PM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: april15Bendovr

Isn't that true. I can just see the liberals screaming as we burned a pile of NY Times papers - "You are ruining the air quality!"


26 posted on 04/14/2006 4:14:23 PM PDT by jrooney (Ny Times - what a joke)
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To: RangerVetNam; pennboricua

My email to Scott McClellan.....

"We thank you for your tireless efforts.

On the Free Republic Forum there was a discussion today of the New York Times retractions and the effect on National coverage. It was noted that the Times will print a blatantly inaccurate piece and retract it later. But in the meantime the AP picks it up and papers all across the country prints the false article. They never print the Times retraction.

It was suggested that the first order on your daily agenda would be reviewing all the retractions to be sure the word gets out.

Such an action would be much appreciated and in the best interest of the country."


27 posted on 04/14/2006 4:15:40 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Mo1


It's the firsr blast of news that counts and this rag is perfectly willing to publish lies first and then retract.


28 posted on 04/14/2006 4:16:20 PM PDT by onyx (It's easier to indict a ham sandwich or Tom DeLay than it is to indict a Democrat.)
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To: jrooney

BUT, but, think of the number of trees they would save if they did NOT print these stupid LIES!!!


29 posted on 04/14/2006 4:16:34 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: goodnesswins
Sorry, but I think WE should SHOUT it from the rooftops...er...the internet....???

I think we should all get bumper stickers made that say
"Main Stream Media STUCK ON STUPID
Want to know why? CALL (put your phone number here)

I'll bet the local news reporters driving around will eventually see it and give you a call. Then you can tell them all about the Iraqi documents that Freeper jveritas has been translanting about Saddam and Al Quida connection and WMD, that NONE OF THE MEDIA are reporting on.

30 posted on 04/14/2006 4:19:02 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: bert

Bert,

If Scott followed your advice and starting doing that, it would drive the liberal moonbat reporters nuts. I could just see David Gregory cursing under his breath.

I really wish they would do it because it would throw it right back in the reporters faces and make them accountable for their crappy reporting. The world would see them for what we know they are.


31 posted on 04/14/2006 4:23:04 PM PDT by jrooney (Ny Times - what a joke)
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To: Spunky

They are ignoring the docs for now but they will not be able to ignore them for the next 7 months before the Nov. elections. They are hoping we will all give up and quit talking about them. They are in for a nightmare of a surpise because if I could wager a bet, I believe there will be many more documents that tie Saddam to al qaeda since 1995, tie him to 9/11 and or the Anthrax attacks.

The left is rolling the dice and they are going to lose on this one.


32 posted on 04/14/2006 4:27:11 PM PDT by jrooney (Ny Times - what a joke)
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To: Spunky
I think we should all get bumper stickers made that say "Main Stream Media STUCK ON STUPID"

How about this for a bumper sticker

Mainstream Media

Fullfilling the needs for a socialist agenda and promoting the Communist manifesto

33 posted on 04/14/2006 4:28:56 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
The New York Times: "All the news that's fit to print fabricate to advance the Marxist agenda."
34 posted on 04/14/2006 4:29:14 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Paloma_55
Rush has it right when he calls them the "drive-by" media.

They drive up, fire a shot, then take off with a "talk amongst yourselves" mentality.

It's really all they have left as they cling to what little credibility they have while the American public, slowly but surely get on to them.

Hey, throw it out there, the NY Times figures. Say anything and hope those idiots out in la-la land busy carrying this country on their backs hear a couple of sound bites and summarize the bites into exactly the conclusion we want them to make. As I surmise is the Times' logic

Give it time. IT's not going to last much longer.

35 posted on 04/14/2006 4:30:17 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: bert
Image hosted by Photobucket.com it's an old lawyer trick... say something you want the jury to hear that you know they shouldn't know about,

the judge has it stricken from the record and tells the jury to ignore what was said. RIGHT!!!

right or wrong... you can't unring the bell.

36 posted on 04/14/2006 4:30:28 PM PDT by Chode (1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT. American Hedonist ©®)
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To: jrooney

.....I really wish they would do it .....

Send him a note. Can't possibly hurt.


37 posted on 04/14/2006 4:31:21 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: jrooney

Retort: Maybe, but we are improving the quality of life.


38 posted on 04/14/2006 4:43:35 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: bert

Way to go. I would love to see them implement this strategy.


39 posted on 04/14/2006 4:56:02 PM PDT by RangerVetNam (Bill Clinton only lied to me. John Kerry lied about me!)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Where does the Times print corrections and retractions? Page A39?

Corrections are always on even page numbers. That way you actually have to fold the paper back to find it. So I suspect either A38 or A40.

40 posted on 04/14/2006 5:04:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: goodnesswins

BTTT


41 posted on 04/14/2006 5:11:51 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: april15Bendovr

The Times is suffering from intelligence failure. They should read the bloggers first before printing anything except possibly the weather.


42 posted on 04/14/2006 5:16:30 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: onyx
I once wrote to the NYSlimes suggesting they were deliberately printing misrepresentations about republicans.

In addition to the response letter claiming they strive to get the correct information printed, blah blah blah they added a paragraph stating how offended they were that a reader would think the Times would deliberately print false information about republicans.

What a joke!

43 posted on 04/14/2006 5:19:54 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: OldFriend

HAR!
How utterly arrogant. It really is all about them, isn't it?


44 posted on 04/14/2006 5:20:57 PM PDT by onyx (It's easier to indict a ham sandwich or Tom DeLay than it is to indict a Democrat.)
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To: april15Bendovr

making the Post look rather credible, no?


45 posted on 04/14/2006 5:24:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Jesus' mission declared "complete failure" by religious experts.)
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To: HardStarboard
HERE IS HOW THE STINKING LA TIMES HANDLES THE NEWS
46 posted on 04/14/2006 6:19:58 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Where does the Times print corrections and retractions? Page A39?

I do not know where the NYT reports corrections but I do know where the effect of cumulative errors and bias are accounted.

NEW YORK, April 13 (Reuters) - New York Times Co. (NYT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) on Thursday said first-quarter profit fell 69 percent from a year earlier when it took a large gain, as higher newsprint costs and weak results from the Boston Globe outweighed strong Internet revenue.

47 posted on 04/14/2006 6:22:32 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: april15Bendovr

The NYT makes it up as it goes along. Facts be damned!


48 posted on 04/14/2006 6:31:02 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Chode

Its also like the quote about Lawyers.

"What are two lawyers in a court of law? They are like two pairs of shears that cut at everything but the truth and not each other."

The same could be said for newspapers and journalists.


49 posted on 04/14/2006 6:35:03 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Kenny Bunkport

"Where does the Times print corrections and retractions? Page A39?"

All corrections should be printed on Page 2. Force papers to think before they write something.


50 posted on 04/14/2006 6:41:12 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (To Serve Man......It's a cookbook!)
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