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Bush Was Right About Iraq's Quest For Uranium
Real Clear Politics ^ | April 16,2006 | Jon Leo

Posted on 04/16/2006 4:38:57 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Bush Was Right About Iraq's Quest For Uranium By John Leo

In a surprising editorial, The Washington Post deviated from the conventional anti-Bush media position on two counts. It said President Bush was right to declassify parts of a National Intelligence Estimate to make clear why he thought Saddam Hussein was seeking nuclear weapons. And the editorial said ex-ambassador Joseph Wilson was wrong to think he had debunked Bush on the nuclear charge because Wilson's statements after visiting Niger actually "supported the conclusion that Iraq had sought uranium."

In the orthodox narrative line, Wilson is the truth-teller and the Bush the liar. But Wilson was not speaking truthfully when he said his wife, Victoria Plame, had nothing to do with the CIA sending him to Niger. And it obviously wasn't true, as Wilson claimed, that he had found nothing to support Bush's charge about Niger when he (Wilson) had been told that the Iraqis were poking around in that uranium-rich nation.

Testifying before the Senate intelligence committee, Wilson said that the former prime minister of Niger told him he had been asked to meet with Iraqis to talk about "expanding commercial relations" between the two countries. Everybody knew what that meant; Niger has nothing much to trade other than uranium.

Christopher Hitchens made the latter point last week in a muscular column subtitled "Sorry, everyone, but Iraq did go uranium shopping in Niger."

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: declassification; iraq; iraqdocs; johnleo; niger; prewardocs; uranium; washingtonpost; wilson; wot
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Anybody have the Link for the original Article?
1 posted on 04/16/2006 4:39:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf; Peach; prairiebreeze; Coop; Dog; Howlin; Miss Marple; Carolinamom

bttt


2 posted on 04/16/2006 4:47:57 PM PDT by kayak (Praying for MozartLover's son, Jemian's son, all our military, and our President every day!)
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To: tcrlaf


The Big Lie begins to unravel.


3 posted on 04/16/2006 4:52:12 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: All

Joe Wilson .. a perfect example of the out-of-Control Media.

He and has wife was the victim and Bush was the oppressor.

Wilson lied and lied big time. His wife went to bat for him to secure that he would be picked to make the trip. The information that Wilson would report (and the info he would ignore) was preordained. It was dishonest to select him.

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4 posted on 04/16/2006 4:53:54 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: tcrlaf
And the editorial said ex-ambassador Joseph Wilson was wrong to think he had debunked Bush on the nuclear charge because Wilson's statements after visiting Niger actually "supported the conclusion that Iraq had sought uranium."

You know, some of us had the sense to actually read exactly what Joe Wilson said, and listen again to exactly what President Bush said. So we knew this two years ago. But I welcome this editorialist to reality, however late he might be.

5 posted on 04/16/2006 4:54:21 PM PDT by wizardoz
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To: Para-Ord.45

*** The Big Lie begins to unravel***
The "Great Liberal Lie" has been unraveling for some time now, I'm just concerned that few seem to be noticing!!!

50 years from now, PoliSci classes will be studying this, and how so many people could be so easily decieved by DNC/Soros/Moonbat-paid propoganda.....

If we have a nation at all in 50 years.......


6 posted on 04/16/2006 4:55:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

I saw Christopher Hitchens making the same points that are in this article on Hairball with Chrissy Matthews..and Chrissy either talked over him, cut him off...or called him a liar...


7 posted on 04/16/2006 4:56:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: wizardoz

You know this, I know this, then why is it most Americans DO NOT??
Why does this din from the leftists go on DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY, with nary a challenge???


8 posted on 04/16/2006 4:56:38 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Yes he was. Furthermore, Saddam DID have UN banned weapons and they were being found before and after the start of the war. But he was also right about Saddam's connection to Al Qaeda. THAT TRUMPS ALL. The WH seemed to drop that ball politically and they ran with and went on the defensive about WMD.


9 posted on 04/16/2006 4:58:50 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: tcrlaf

We may not have one without revolution. I say split the country in half & let the liberals run one half & the conservatives run the other. It would only be a matter of time before the liberals destroyed themselves & we could take over everything again. Of course, once the liberal got control...they would be ripe for invasion as they would be defenseless..


10 posted on 04/16/2006 5:00:04 PM PDT by Feiny (I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed over the fact that I have a drinking problem.)
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To: tcrlaf

It is good to see that some in the MSM are being forced to finally start reporting the truth.


11 posted on 04/16/2006 5:00:20 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: feinswinesuksass

<<< Of course, once the liberal got control...they would be ripe for invasion as they would be defenseless..>>>

Don't be so sure...

Hitler, The Soviet Union, Saddam and others provide historical examples of what happens when leftists gain control...

Indoctrinate them at an early age, and they will commit ALL KINDS of horrific crimes in the name of the state...


12 posted on 04/16/2006 5:02:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: Para-Ord.45
The Big Lie begins to unravel.

One would hope, but I'm not holding my breath.

13 posted on 04/16/2006 5:03:05 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: tcrlaf

John Leo is allowing the truth to trump partisanship? "I can see! I can see!"


14 posted on 04/16/2006 5:05:30 PM PDT by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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To: tcrlaf

Yes, but they will have no guns...as guns are the big evil with libs. No one will be armed....the ones in charge will take out their hate on their subjects.


15 posted on 04/16/2006 5:05:32 PM PDT by Feiny (I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed over the fact that I have a drinking problem.)
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To: tcrlaf
The Lefties have an Agenda:

There is a book,:

Unholy Alliance : Radical Islam and the American Left (Hardcover)

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And a review:

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Communism is dead. Long live Islam!, September 30, 2004

Reviewer: Kevin Beckman (Sacramento, CA) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
It sounds absurd: why would Leftists make common cause with a religion that is diametrically opposed to everything the Left stands for? David Horowitz explains that it is really quite logical given the Left's first principle: America is evil and anything or anyone opposed to America is good.

Part I of the book is a brief history of 9/11 through the end of major combat operations in Iraq, and the Left's behavior during this time. Horowitz includes the reaction of Katha Pollitt of The Nation magazine: "The flag stands for vengeance, and jingoism, and war." Anthropology Professor Nicholas De Genova of Columbia University said he hoped for "a million Mogadishus." His colleagues objected, not to the despicable sentiment, but because of the bad publicity it brought their "teach-in." Our tax dollars at work!

Part II is the heart of the book: a history of the American and international Left. Horowitz calls them Neo-Communists or Neocoms. The Neocoms of old believed in the Soviet Union the way religious people believe in God. Those who spied for the USSR didn't see themselves as traitors to their country, but rather loyalists to humanity and an ideal of America that's never existed. When the Soviet Union fell, a few of them stopped for some introspection but most pressed on as if nothing happened. Communist historian Eric Hobsbawm put it nicely: "Without the Revolution, my life and my work are meaningless."

Now that they no longer have to defend an indefensible regime, modern Neocoms are simply nihilists. They know what they oppose but they have no plans for the aftermath of the revolution which they still believe will happen. They don't know what they want, but they know what they hate: the United States, capitalism personified.

So why are they allying with radical Islam? Horowitz says that the Neocoms still believe in Marx's dictum that "religion is the opiate of the masses." Once private property is abolished, the need for religion will vanish, and Islamic radicals will stop being Islamic and radical. The only thing standing in the way is the United States.

Sound insane? It is. They are. I highly recommend this book. Horowitz makes the insanity understandable.

16 posted on 04/16/2006 5:06:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: tcrlaf

major bump


17 posted on 04/16/2006 5:13:52 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: tcrlaf

Too little, too late. None but us will take any notice.


18 posted on 04/16/2006 5:15:06 PM PDT by newzjunkey (America for Americans: No amnesty.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

"The Big Lie" has become "common knowledge" and thus anything to the contrary will be dismissed or ignored. The Left are BRILLIANT propogandists. We can't even make a splash with the truth on our side. It's pathetic!


19 posted on 04/16/2006 5:16:27 PM PDT by newzjunkey (America for Americans: No amnesty.)
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To: tcrlaf

This has been obvious to any ordinary trucker or plumber for over a year now. Glad to see a few journalists are finally re-discovering some portion of their lazy brains.


20 posted on 04/16/2006 5:17:19 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: newzjunkey

I am afraid you are right....

And now we face an even GREATER threat in Iran, and it's happening again....

While the media bleats, leftists are all but openly supporting a Mad Mullah. It seems that if it's GOOD for America, it's BAD for Liberals/Democrats now......


21 posted on 04/16/2006 5:17:39 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

We won't have a nation you or I can recognize in 50 years. At my age I don't anticipate being alive in 50 years which might be for the best.


22 posted on 04/16/2006 5:18:20 PM PDT by newzjunkey (America for Americans: No amnesty.)
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To: aflaak

ping


23 posted on 04/16/2006 5:18:40 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Black ribbon on my IPW card in memory of PaulaB)
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To: tcrlaf
And now we face an even GREATER threat in Iran, and it's happening again....

Deserves repeating.

24 posted on 04/16/2006 5:19:03 PM PDT by newzjunkey (America for Americans: No amnesty.)
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To: newzjunkey

The other thing here is that the Dems are zeroing in on NIGER. There are several Uranium producing countries in Africa. Niger is not Africa.


25 posted on 04/16/2006 5:19:06 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: kayak
"The Drive-by Media"

A more apt description og these ninnies would be impossible to imagine.

26 posted on 04/16/2006 5:21:25 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Txsleuth

Matthews is a particularly juvenile Democrat politico.


27 posted on 04/16/2006 5:30:40 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Wristpin
"The other thing here is that the Dems are zeroing in on NIGER. There are several Uranium producing countries in Africa. Niger is not Africa."

But look at the facts:

Background: In the eighties, Iraq did purchase uranium from Niger,

Then, in the late 90's the Iraqis sent a high-level trade mission to impoverished Niger, whose primary export is URANIUM (mostly to France. The trade mission was top-heavy with military and scientific types. Any REASONABLE person would suspect that Saddam was likely trying to by uranium. Joe (if we can believe him) asked the President of the country if that's what the trade mission was doing there, and the Nigeri President told him "no."

28 posted on 04/16/2006 5:31:00 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: tcrlaf

That is quite a position for the Washington Post to take, since the Post is the Bible of political liberalism in Washington.


29 posted on 04/16/2006 5:32:04 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: cookcounty

I truly believe they were trying to procure it. In the late 90's Bill Richardson was sent to another African nation (Gabon I beieve) to check out another purchase. It is mentioned in the Senate Intelligence Report.


30 posted on 04/16/2006 5:33:33 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: tcrlaf
Anybody have the Link for the original Article?

Here's the FR discussion of it (and a link to the original):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1611966/posts

31 posted on 04/16/2006 5:34:09 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Joe (if we can believe him) asked the President of the country if that's what the trade mission was doing there, and the Nigeri President told him "no."

I'm pretty sure that's not the question asked, or the answer given. As I recall, the question was whether Niger had sold Uranium, and the answer was "not officially"( along with some concern that there were mines not under the governments full control).

32 posted on 04/16/2006 5:39:15 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: tcrlaf
Anybody have the Link for the original Article?
Here is a SHORT EXCERPT from www.washingtonpost.com:
A Good Leak
President Bush declassified some of the intelligence he used to decide on war in Iraq. Is that a scandal?

Sunday, April 9, 2006; B06

PRESIDENT BUSH was right to approve the declassification of parts of a National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq three years ago in order to make clear why he had believed that Saddam Hussein was seeking nuclear weapons. Presidents are authorized to declassify sensitive material, and the public benefits when they do. But the administration handled the release clumsily, exposing Mr. Bush to the hyperbolic charges of misconduct and hypocrisy that Democrats are leveling...

-- snip --

...The affair concerns, once again, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV and his absurdly over-examined visit to the African country of Niger in 2002. Each time the case surfaces, opponents of the war in Iraq use it to raise a different set of charges, so it's worth recalling the previous iterations. Mr. Wilson originally claimed in a 2003 New York Times op-ed and in conversations with numerous reporters that he had debunked a report that Iraq was seeking to purchase uranium from Niger and that Mr. Bush's subsequent inclusion of that allegation in his State of the Union address showed that he had deliberately "twisted" intelligence "to exaggerate the Iraq threat." The material that Mr. Bush ordered declassified established, as have several subsequent investigations, that Mr. Wilson was the one guilty of twisting the truth. In fact, his report supported the conclusion that Iraq had sought uranium...


33 posted on 04/16/2006 5:40:21 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: FreedomCalls

It's taken A WEEK for me to hear about it, and I'm a NEWS HOUND!

If THAT doesn't tell you something about how deeply the MSM wants to bury this, NOTHING will....

I think it's pretty clear that WILSON LIED once he got on Kerry's Payroll, yet on other boards I keep getting the same old "Bush Lied" lines!

When will it begin to sink in to the Media??


34 posted on 04/16/2006 5:40:25 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: Txsleuth

I also caught that show. I could not believe Mathews, continually stepping on Hitchens points so nobody could hear what he was saying and then letting the liberal talk forever. Did you see at the very end of that segment Hitchens was still trying to talk and Mathews says ''we have no more time for this,'' ? and then going on and plugging some show he was on the night before?...... Even for Mathews ,the guy was particularly vile that day.....


35 posted on 04/16/2006 5:42:49 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yes, the lie continues to unravel. However, why were Bush and Company so quick to say the statement should not have been in the SOTU message? Too often, the Bush team has a collective knee-jerk response when the MSM hurls accusations.


36 posted on 04/16/2006 5:47:50 PM PDT by freedom4me ("Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom."--Ben Franklin)
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To: tcrlaf

Bookemarked


37 posted on 04/16/2006 5:48:37 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Bush gal in LA

Yes...LOL

Christopher got so frustrated that I think he just kept talking, even though Chrissy was trying to wrap up the show...just to pay Chrissy back for being so OBVIOUS in his attempts to keep Hitchens from being heard.

It must really panic the libs when Christopher speaks out about this...since he is one of "them"....LOL


38 posted on 04/16/2006 5:50:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: tcrlaf

You are right on!! Keep it up!!


39 posted on 04/16/2006 5:52:43 PM PDT by BobFromNJ (out dthere)
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To: tcrlaf
"When will it begin to sink in to the Media??"

The question should be: "What will it take to sink the media?"
Why isn't what Wilson did treasonous?

40 posted on 04/16/2006 5:58:11 PM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA

***Why isn't what Wilson did treasonous?***

Because the Liberal definition of "Treason" is now anything that helps Bush, or makes him look good in ANY light....

Just as defeating Democrats at the ballot box has become a crime, so is believing that America has the right to protect itself, it's people. and it's interests from those that wish us harm........


41 posted on 04/16/2006 6:05:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf
Hitchens made another point. The forged documents claiming an Iraq-Niger connection were so crude that they could never have fooled the CIA or British intelligence for very long. Who would do this, and do it so badly? Nobody knows. But if the forgeries were meant to distract from other evidence that Bush was right, then they certainly worked. Look around in American journalism, and you will find great certitude that the forgeries destroyed Bush's claim.

Should we ask Dan what he knows about the forged documents ??

Just kidding

Though it is interesting that media is ignoring who could have written them

42 posted on 04/16/2006 6:06:01 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: tcrlaf

bump


43 posted on 04/16/2006 6:28:09 PM PDT by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tcrlaf
50 years from now, PoliSci classes will be studying this, and how so many people could be so easily decieved by DNC/Soros/Moonbat-paid propoganda..... If we have a nation at all in 50 years.......

I'm not sure 50 years from now there will be Poli-Sci classes in any of the Wahabi schools in the great North American Caliphate of Islam ... based on the way US and Europe is taking the threat Islam poses to the rest of the world.

44 posted on 04/16/2006 6:40:46 PM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: tcrlaf

I have my doubts about our nation surviving another 50 years as well.


45 posted on 04/16/2006 6:58:12 PM PDT by mcshot (Many of our enemies are busy - pouring through our gates .)
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To: newzjunkey

We have to be prepared to fight for what we love.


46 posted on 04/16/2006 7:06:12 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: RonDog

bttt


47 posted on 04/16/2006 7:13:19 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Txsleuth
Yup, I'm sure he is thoroughly and absolutely despised by the left. I think he used to work at ''The Nation''magazine but quickly left there after 911, cause he felt we needed to fight back against the terrorists and all the creeps there flipped out and told him it was ''all our fault.''
48 posted on 04/16/2006 7:19:26 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: tcrlaf

So when does Wilson get sued and/or go to jail over his false and defamatory testimony?


49 posted on 04/16/2006 7:27:11 PM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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To: tcrlaf
While the media bleats, leftists are all but openly supporting a Mad Mullah.

One of the Mad Mullah's most fervent apologist at this time is Pat Buchanan, the antisemitic rightist. Buchanan. is joined in his venomous bigotry by Charley Reese, another columnist of similar feverish propensities.

50 posted on 04/16/2006 8:25:59 PM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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