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Iranian Alert - April 16, 2006 - US has planned since 2003 to invade Iran
Regime Change Iran ^ | 4/16/06 | freedom44

Posted on 04/16/2006 5:13:55 PM PDT by freedom44


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Financial Times

WASHINGTON/TEHRAN: The US has prepared several plans to attack Iran since 2003, a former intelligence expert with the US military reported Sunday in the Washington Post.

According to security analyst William Arkin, the US Central Command has been devising war scenarios with Iran at least since May 2003, shortly after the US-led invasion of neighbouring Iraq.

One of the possible campaigns, entitled TIRANNT (theatre Iran near term) dealt with clash of US and Iranian ground troops, taking into account US experiences in its recent Iraq invasion, Arkin said.

In addition, the US drew up plans for missile attacks on Iran as well as held war games in cooperation with Britain "under a Caspian Sea scenario that could also pave the way for northern operations against Iran".

In response to reported US military threats, Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki said the US was not "in a position to start another regional crisis" due to its problematic involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq.


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1 posted on 04/16/2006 5:13:57 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Any Caspian sea scenario would need approval from Russia and surronding CIS states. A northern front, therefore, can be ruled out.


2 posted on 04/16/2006 5:16:54 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: freedom44

The planning for the invasion of Iran should have started on November 4, 1979 and carried out the moment we had enough troops in the area. Obviously, the traitor Carter never was going to do that; however, Reagan should have bombed them back into the stone ages on January 21, 1981.


3 posted on 04/16/2006 5:17:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: freedom44

Since 2003??? You mean that then president Carter didn't have a plan to invade and free the hostages? For all the money we give to them, the Pentagon BETTER have plans to invade just about anywhere for a whole host of scenarios. Therefore, it is a pretty lame headline when you think about it. Which means either there is an agenda behind sensationalizing a routine military function ... or the reporter is just clueless.


4 posted on 04/16/2006 5:20:31 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Too soon to remember??? How about TOO SOON TO FORGET!" from Mr. Silverback)
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To: NonValueAdded
I believe Carter rejected the plans. Thought he could conquer a whole country with a couple of helicopters.

Hope he wasn't typical of submariners.

5 posted on 04/16/2006 5:24:23 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: freedom44

And now a story that Iran is ready to attack us and British facilities with 40,000 suicide bombers if their "peaceful" nuclear program is attacked. Wow - 40,000 suicide bombers, the bulk of the program buried under hardened bunkers, etc. seems like an awful lot to protect a "peaceful" nuclear program. Who do they think theyre kidding?!?! It seems that if Ahdmadinajad doesnt make a provocative statement against us or Isreal at least several times a day, somethings wrong. I know theyre trying to draw us into a fight, but how much longer do we sit around and take this garbage? Theyre making North Korea look like pacifists!!


6 posted on 04/16/2006 5:29:14 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: freedom44

Planning and war games like this go on almost every day for almost every imaginable military situation in almost every corner of the globe. This really isn't much of a revelation.


7 posted on 04/16/2006 5:29:32 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: wagglebee

"Reagan should have bombed them back into the stone ages on January 21, 1981."

Well first of all they released the hostages on that date (I believe)... secondly he didn't want a military confrontation with them because they were a useful bulwark against the Soviets.


8 posted on 04/16/2006 5:31:37 PM PDT by Battleofbritain (")
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To: freedom44

And I'll bet we've got something in store for North Korea, too.


9 posted on 04/16/2006 5:32:17 PM PDT by x1stcav (Illegals go home! I'll mow the damned lawn myself!)
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To: freedom44

I would hope that the plan has been going on since 1980.


10 posted on 04/16/2006 5:36:57 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Battleofbritain

The hostages were released just after noon on January 20th, by the 21st they were safely in Germany. By the time Reagan took office, the Soviets were totally bogged down in Afghanistan and wouldn't have done a thing about Iran.


11 posted on 04/16/2006 5:37:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Iam sure we have plans to invade a lot of counties. I would be disapointed in are Miltary if we didn't.


12 posted on 04/16/2006 5:42:39 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: wagglebee
Reagan should have bombed them back into the stone ages on January 21, 1981.

That would have been a very very small bomb.

13 posted on 04/16/2006 5:47:20 PM PDT by mountn man (Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional.)
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To: freedom44

"IRAN is to give nearly £30 million to the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority"

This will anger all the unemployed and poverty stricken Iranian people. (if they hear about it)


14 posted on 04/16/2006 6:00:43 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: piasa

Arkin ping.


15 posted on 04/16/2006 6:02:15 PM PDT by Fedora
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16 posted on 04/16/2006 6:04:38 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: freedom44

Lugar, on the ABC television program “This Week,” said it was too soon to press hard for sanctions aimed at halting Iran’s suspected nuclear weapons program..."

"“I think that would be useful ... the Iranians are a part of the energy picture. "......Maybe we need to focus our attention less right now on the centrifuges than on how power is going to come out..."

Lugar is either getting money from the regime or he's completely out of his mind. (the latter also covers RINO thinking)
He's the one who's been holding up the dispensing of funds for Iranian democratic opposition groups.


17 posted on 04/16/2006 6:15:38 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert
Lugar is either getting money from the regime or he's completely out of his mind. (the latter also covers RINO thinking)

Lugar has been institutionalized by the beltway boys for decades now. He is like a resident of a longterm mental ward--he would be petrified by any change no matter how small.

18 posted on 04/16/2006 6:24:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: freedom44

Throughout the Cold War the US had war plans drawn up against Warsaw Pact countries and the Soviet Union, including plans for preemptive strikes. We didn't use any of them. Just because we have plans drawn up, doesn't mean we're going to use them. Prudence and logic would dictate that plans be drawn up so that if we had to do something about a certain country, then we would have a plan ready to go. But then, prudence and logic escape most Liberals.


19 posted on 04/16/2006 6:31:08 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: freedom44
The US has prepared several plans to attack Iran since 2003, a former intelligence expert with the US military reported Sunday in the Washington Post.

We've had plans to attack Iran before 2003. Even Jimmah Carter had one, sort of.

20 posted on 04/16/2006 6:46:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: wingsof liberty
I know theyre trying to draw us into a fight...

Yes they are. The question is, why.

I'm not necessarily saying that we shouldn't attack Iran. However the potential for serious retaliation against civilians on US soil does exist with these guys unlike with Iraq. That's assuming that they don't already have a nuke and the capability to lob one over the lower 48 and use it as a pulse weapon.
21 posted on 04/16/2006 6:52:16 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Old_Mil

I am shocked by how many people keep rushing to microphones in an effort to limit our options. Looe lips sink ships.


22 posted on 04/16/2006 7:00:27 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: x1stcav

Let us not forget Somalia!


23 posted on 04/16/2006 7:20:39 PM PDT by takeemout (God Bless Jesse Helms!)
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To: maquiladora

Exactly. We have "contingency plans" for practically any situation.
I believe the Israelites will strike them next week. The Soviets did nothing when they hit Iraq, and the Russians will do nothing now.
(And if I'm wrong, there's always the 2000 year old `Armageddon Plan')


24 posted on 04/16/2006 8:33:33 PM PDT by OkieDoke
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To: nuconvert; freedom44
Lugar was mayor of Indianapolis when I was in college; made "history" letting IPD take cruisers home to "increase police presence"--

Thus in his two little gray cells simply HAVING troops in Iraq next door to Iran is an act of war.

The Iranians are only "a part of the energy picture" because pukes like Lugar won't drill ANWR and elsewhere, build refineries and atomic reactors, and generally put the nation's interests before their bribes.

25 posted on 04/16/2006 10:46:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: freedom44

If we only started planning in 2003, as this article suggests, I am deeply disappointed.


26 posted on 04/17/2006 3:42:55 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: NonValueAdded
Which means either there is an agenda behind sensationalizing a routine military function ...or the reporter is just clueless.

Um...I would say...both.
27 posted on 04/17/2006 6:21:06 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The Democrat Party is engulfed in a Culture of Hypocrisy)
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To: nuconvert
the Iranians are a part of the energy picture.

Sounds to me like Lugar is afraid that Iran will play the Oil card. It just sickens me to think how many Senators and Congressmen think that this country is made up of a bunch of wusses who will just utterly freak out if we do have to face a hardship.
28 posted on 04/17/2006 6:29:06 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The Democrat Party is engulfed in a Culture of Hypocrisy)
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To: wagglebee

"The planning for the invasion of Iran should have started on November 4, 1979, and carried out the moment we had enough troops in the area. Obviously, the traitor Carter never was going to do that; however, Reagan should have bombed them back into the stone ages on January 21, 1981."

He would have, but they released the hostages on his way to take the oath. Remember, his campaign promise, 10 seconds after he took the oath, the whole world expected a certain aircraft carrier to start turning.

We would spend the next quarter of century paying for Jimmy Carter's gift to the Ayatollah.


29 posted on 04/17/2006 6:42:03 AM PDT by TET1968
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To: freedom44
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30 posted on 04/17/2006 7:50:30 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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