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March 2003 Top Secret Memo: TRANSFER OF SPECIAL AMMUNITION (POTENTIAL CHEMICAL WEAPONS) Translation
Pentagon/FMSO Iraq Pre-War Documents ^ | April 17 2007 | jveritas

Posted on 04/17/2006 8:40:37 AM PDT by jveritas

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1 posted on 04/17/2006 8:40:42 AM PDT by jveritas
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To: jveritas

American Hero, Jveritas Bump


2 posted on 04/17/2006 8:42:02 AM PDT by mnehring (NeoCon and Proud of it! - http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: jveritas

Our national treasure.


3 posted on 04/17/2006 8:42:47 AM PDT by Peach
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To: jveritas

Too bad we don't have a free press to help with this...


4 posted on 04/17/2006 8:45:27 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: jveritas
Bless you jveritas!!!!!

Lord how I pray that FoxNews discovers ya and puts ya on the air with a recurring continuing story line, "JV's Translations"!!!

That kind of recognition of what you are doing for this Country is the LEAST you deserve!

Thank you!!! Thank you thank you thankyouthankyouthankyou!!!!
5 posted on 04/17/2006 8:46:01 AM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: jveritas
It's my understanding the the UN inspectors as of FEB. 2003 were destroying 155mm war heads filled with mustard gas -- total of 50 liters of mustard gas. This is documented somewhere by the UN and Dr. Hans Blix in a testimony.

It's no surprise that Saddam may have still had some left and that the UN inspectors did not get them all.
6 posted on 04/17/2006 8:47:30 AM PDT by avacado
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To: eyespysomething
Transfer of SPECIAL AMMUNITION a day before the war began. Saddam Regime always designated CHEMICAL WEAPONS as SPECIAL AMMUNITION.
7 posted on 04/17/2006 8:47:56 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

BTTT and thanks.


8 posted on 04/17/2006 8:48:16 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Danae

Thank you very much Danae and God bless you too.


9 posted on 04/17/2006 8:48:58 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Speculation / Question: Could this movement of arms represent the centralization of "Special Weapons" before moving them out of the country?


10 posted on 04/17/2006 8:49:09 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why did Allah create free will and then demand submission? Wouldn't robots have been easier?)
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To: jveritas

Thank you!!!


11 posted on 04/17/2006 8:49:35 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: jveritas

Some body had better tell Juan Williams about this........


12 posted on 04/17/2006 8:50:22 AM PDT by yoe (Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright did what with the UAE?!! - and Hillary didn't know?)
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To: mnehrling; jveritas

A quick search on the Web shows Iraq delivered chemical weapons with its 130mm and 155mm artillery shells.


13 posted on 04/17/2006 8:50:34 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: All
“SPECIAL AMMUNITION”

It's just some EXTREME SHOCK Ammo...........

Nothing to see here.

14 posted on 04/17/2006 8:50:50 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: jveritas

Is ANYBODY covering this? ANYONE at ALL?!

Thanks, JV. You are the best.


15 posted on 04/17/2006 8:51:20 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: jveritas
Go Jveritas!


16 posted on 04/17/2006 8:51:32 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: jveritas
Awesome job! I'll say it again. The White House should hire you to hold briefings on these documents along with a Pentagon official. The president should follow up the briefings with a re-cap/address to the nation
17 posted on 04/17/2006 8:52:37 AM PDT by slowhand520
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To: avacado
That is correct. However this top secret memo seems to indicate a huge quantity of the SPECIAL AMMUNITION to be transfer from one depot to other depots.

Regardless of the quantity, if as we think that these SPECIAL AMMUNITION shells are CHEMICAL WEAPONS it is yet another proof that Saddam did not destroy his WMD arsenal and thus President Bush did not lie to get us into the war, and we had all the right to remove Saddam regime from power.

18 posted on 04/17/2006 8:52:47 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Superb work!

Keep it up!

BTW, are you forwarding on your translations to CIA/DIA? If not, you absolutely should.


19 posted on 04/17/2006 8:53:12 AM PDT by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: jveritas

Bimp.


20 posted on 04/17/2006 8:53:15 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: OXENinFLA; jveritas
From the CIA:

16 June 2004: Two 122mm SAKR-18 Artillery Rockets

An Iraqi source turned over to Polish Forces two 122mm rockets obtained at the Khamisiyah Depot—a former CW storage site declared by Iraq to have housed 122mm filled rockets (see Figure 6). Details about the provenance of these rounds remain unclear but the source Sarin/Cyclosarin believes the missiles were housed in a bunker struck during the Gulf war and subsequently hidden in canals and lakes in the area. Analysis of the liquid residue revealed the nerve agents Sarin (GB) and Cyclosarin (GF) as well as a number of impurities and known degradation products of GB and GF. Given the age, leakage, decomposition of nerve agent, and small quantity of remaining liquid, these rounds would have limited, if any, impact if used by insurgents against Coalition Forces (see Figure 7).

Historical context: Iraq declared having produced the following numbers of 122mm nerve agent rockets, but made no distinction in its declaration about the type of sarin fill: GB, GF, or GB/GF mix. We suspect, based on data from the declaration and the UNSCOM 239 Report that GB/GF-filled rockets were included in the 1988 and 1990 declaration figures. Although the origin of these rockets has not been clearly stated, the Khamisiyah Ammunition Storage Depot where the rockets were found has a long history of CW storage, Coalition bombing, and UN investigation.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/chap5_annxF.html

21 posted on 04/17/2006 8:53:28 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Brad Cloven

It is a very possible scenario.


22 posted on 04/17/2006 8:53:41 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: mnehrling; Peach

Just a humble freeper :)


23 posted on 04/17/2006 8:54:09 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Are you posting all of this on a website somewhere (other than FR, of course)?

Thank you for your valuable work.


24 posted on 04/17/2006 8:54:49 AM PDT by alnick (1)
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To: All

By the way this document was posted few weeks ago on the Pentagon/FMSO web site, it is a long 262 pages document, and unfortunately when I read it the first time (few weeks ago) I missed the "SPECIAL AMMUNITION" term used in this 9 pages top secret memo.


25 posted on 04/17/2006 8:57:04 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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Ping!


26 posted on 04/17/2006 8:57:29 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: alnick; jveritas
A. The first priority

First. Ammunition (122 mm)
Second. Ammunition (130 mm)
Third. Ammunition (155 mm)

To the depots and storage of the Second Corp and the two ammunition depot groups Dijla/2/3

The top three types of priority ammunition have all been associated with Iraqi WMD on open-source documentation.

B. Second priority.

First. Ammunition (23 mm)
Second. Ammunition (14.5 mm)

To the ammunition depots of the air defense and distributed to the ammunition depot groups in (Al Mussayeb- Al Sobra- Saad).

The latter two are air defense weapons, which fits in perfectly with their described destination.

27 posted on 04/17/2006 9:00:12 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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bump


28 posted on 04/17/2006 9:00:18 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Only 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: jveritas

How do we get ANYBODY to notice this??

This is a HUGE smoking gun!
The Media will spend DAYS covering unprovable, unverifiable memos, but we can't get them to say ANYTHING about the FACTS coming out??


29 posted on 04/17/2006 9:01:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: jveritas

BTTT!


30 posted on 04/17/2006 9:03:34 AM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

You're wlecome. I like you freeper name :)


31 posted on 04/17/2006 9:05:34 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Coop

That is exactly correct Coop.


32 posted on 04/17/2006 9:06:14 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: COEXERJ145

LOL :)


33 posted on 04/17/2006 9:06:38 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, we need a permanent header on top.


34 posted on 04/17/2006 9:07:40 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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To: Nightshift

ping...


35 posted on 04/17/2006 9:07:42 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: roaddog727

I am not forwarding my translations to any intelligence government agency. Do you think they will consider it seriously?


36 posted on 04/17/2006 9:08:02 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Flyer; humblegunner; Allegra; TheMom; Xenalyte; thackney; Eaker; stevie_d_64; TXBSAFH; ...

Ping


37 posted on 04/17/2006 9:09:04 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: alnick; LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; eyespysomething
Indeed I have a blog http://iraqdocs.blogspot.com/ where freepers LTGM and eyespysomething are doing the brunt of the work in maintaining and updating this blog.
38 posted on 04/17/2006 9:12:06 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
By the way this document was posted few weeks ago on the Pentagon/FMSO web site, it is a long 262 pages document, and unfortunately when I read it the first time (few weeks ago) I missed the "SPECIAL AMMUNITION" term used in this 9 pages top secret memo.

I'm sorry, but I'm afraid we'll need to dock your pay for that error.

Carry on! :-)

39 posted on 04/17/2006 9:14:29 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop
Great find Coop. Regardless of when these 122 mm shells that were filled with Chemical Weapons were made, it was still a clear violation of UN resolutions where Saddam should have completely destroyed his WMD.

However this documents indicate a large quantity of SPECIAL AMMUNITION shells and not just few.

40 posted on 04/17/2006 9:16:15 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
It gives them a place to start.

Arabic speakers/readers are at a BIG premium. The docs you are translating are likely not getting much attention due to the sheer volume of materials and available resources (translators).

Contact them and tell them what you are doing - they will likely jump at the opportunity.
41 posted on 04/17/2006 9:16:56 AM PDT by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: jveritas

Exactly right. The burden was on Mr. Hussein, not President Bush as the media and Dems want us to believe.


42 posted on 04/17/2006 9:17:37 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: nutmeg; Peach; Cindy; Miss Marple; Howlin; jveritas

FYI, and your ping lists.

Free Republic's jveritas has translated another biggie for us and the world.


43 posted on 04/17/2006 9:18:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Captain Ed

PING


44 posted on 04/17/2006 9:19:07 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If low-skill workers were key to economic growth, Mexico would be an economic powerhouse.-Rich Lowry)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

bump


45 posted on 04/17/2006 9:19:55 AM PDT by pushforbush
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To: roaddog727; jveritas; Cap Huff; Straight Vermonter; ottersnot; Dog; DevSix; GOPJ; Wiz; ...

I agree, Road Dog. I would imagine that more than a few FReepers might have some suggestions as to where within the Intel community JV could start. Pinging a few and asking them to spread the word and/or give some suggestions.


46 posted on 04/17/2006 9:20:01 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop

Please do not cut a lot from my paycheck :)


47 posted on 04/17/2006 9:20:04 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: alnick

Yes, he is:

http://iraqdocs.blogspot.com/


48 posted on 04/17/2006 9:20:09 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If low-skill workers were key to economic growth, Mexico would be an economic powerhouse.-Rich Lowry)
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To: American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; bannedfromdu; Beckwith; ...

fyi and ping lists


49 posted on 04/17/2006 9:20:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Coop

"A quick search on the Web shows Iraq delivered chemical weapons with its 130mm and 155mm artillery shells."

But of course the left wing maggots of the media and the DNC have told us that Saddamn had no WMDs to put into these shells.


50 posted on 04/17/2006 9:22:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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