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First Knights Templar Discovered
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 4-10-2006

Posted on 04/17/2006 2:34:31 PM PDT by blam

First Knights Templar are discovered

April 10, 2006

LONDON: The first bodies of the Knights Templar, the mysterious religious order at the heart of The Da Vinci Code, have been found by archaeologists near the River Jordan in northern Israel.

British historian Tom Asbridge yesterday hailed the find as the first provable example of actual Knights Templar.

The remains were found beneath the ruined walls of Jacob's Ford, an overthrown

castle dating back to the Crusades, which had been lost for centuries.

They can be dated to the exact day -- August 29, 1179 -- that they were killed by Saladin, the feared Muslim leader who captured the fortress.

"Never before has it been possible to trace their remains to such an exact time in history,' Mr Asbridge said. "This discovery is the equivalent of the Holy Grail to archaeologists and historians. It is unparalleled."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: churchhistory; discovered; first; godsgravesglyphs; knights; knightstemplar; templar
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1 posted on 04/17/2006 2:34:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 04/17/2006 2:35:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

More info please....


3 posted on 04/17/2006 2:37:19 PM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: blam
The first sentence makes most people interested in history dismiss the article. It's too bad the media is so obsessed over this fiction novel as this is quite an interesting find.
4 posted on 04/17/2006 2:38:20 PM PDT by mnehring (NeoCon and Proud of it! - http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: blam
"This discovery is the equivalent of the Holy Grail to archaeologists and historians...."

Release the Monty Python's upon this thread!

5 posted on 04/17/2006 2:38:32 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: blam

bttt


6 posted on 04/17/2006 2:38:54 PM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: blam

Thanks for posting this article.

So far, their claims seem a bit outrageous as they offer no validation nor give any explanation as to the 'how' of their ability to so precisely date this find.


7 posted on 04/17/2006 2:39:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I will go down with this ship, and I won't put my hands up in surrender.)
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To: blam

More info, please! Extremely interesting...and relevant.


8 posted on 04/17/2006 2:39:27 PM PDT by hershey
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To: blam
The first bodies of the Knights Templar, the mysterious religious order at the heart of The Da Vinci Code, have been found by archaeologists

How convenient. Just in time for the motion picture release.

9 posted on 04/17/2006 2:39:52 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: blam

Boy is Sony Pictures going to be loving these guys. Heck, they even managed to work in a "Holy Grail" reference into their quote.

One might even think the timing of this was planned?...


10 posted on 04/17/2006 2:41:11 PM PDT by Gator101
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To: blam

I'm amazed at the amount of people who rather believe the DaVinci Code rather than the Bible. Will the DaVinci Code still be a bestseller a thousand years from now?


11 posted on 04/17/2006 2:41:14 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Rennes Templar; Merovingian; Dagobert

Ping!


12 posted on 04/17/2006 2:41:40 PM PDT by Xenalyte (You're not the boss of Tiger Bot Hesh!)
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To: blam

"British historian Tom Asbridge yesterday hailed the find as the first provable example of actual Knights Templar."

Is someone questioning the actual existence of Knights Templar? I don't "get" this statement at all. The first known instance of my own surname appears in the Templar Inquisition of 1185. I wish I could say I had proved my line, uninterrupted, back to that point, but that doesn't change the earliest record of it.


13 posted on 04/17/2006 2:42:26 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: blam

14 posted on 04/17/2006 2:42:47 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: cyborg

You are correct. It takes more to believe something like the Da Vinci code than to belive in Jesus.


15 posted on 04/17/2006 2:43:03 PM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: ExcursionGuy84
"This discovery is the equivalent of the Holy Grail to archaeologists and historians.

"I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries."

16 posted on 04/17/2006 2:45:35 PM PDT by Gator101
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To: blam

Cool.


17 posted on 04/17/2006 2:46:33 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: cyborg
Will the DaVinci Code still be a bestseller a thousand years from now?

Will anyone be literate a thousand years from now?
18 posted on 04/17/2006 2:47:01 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: cyborg
If you think The DaVinci Code was funny, you should read "The Templar Legacy", it's out now and a real hoot! The author does make a point of telling the readers what parts of the book are real, and which are fiction. I liked his explanation of how the Templars got so rich and influential. When I finished it, I thought "hmmmm, how soon before this explanation becomes accepted as truth?". Thank goodness we have the real primary document to go to for truths.
19 posted on 04/17/2006 2:47:16 PM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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To: blam
....hailed the find as the first provable example of actual Knights Templar."

Really?

20 posted on 04/17/2006 2:47:22 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Meadow Muffin

Someone doubted the historical record of Templars?


21 posted on 04/17/2006 2:47:50 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ExcursionGuy84

What is your quest?


22 posted on 04/17/2006 2:48:27 PM PDT by speedy
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To: ClaireSolt

I'm a little mystified at this assertion myself.


23 posted on 04/17/2006 2:48:57 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: blam
Ah yes, the Da Vinci code. Foucault's Pendulum for retarded people.
24 posted on 04/17/2006 2:49:31 PM PDT by Wormwood (I! I! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: blam

Oh, I've already seen one of those knights. He was in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.


25 posted on 04/17/2006 2:49:57 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: blam

Very cool.


26 posted on 04/17/2006 2:51:15 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: hershey; Meadow Muffin
This may help:

Israel Antiquities Authority

Dig around the site (no pun intended). I heard of the Authority on a Discovery Channel episode where they were excavating a structure believed to be once occupied by the Knights Templar.

27 posted on 04/17/2006 2:51:25 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat Party = Culture of Treason)
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To: blam
The remains were found beneath the ruined walls of Jacob's Ford, an overthrown castle dating back to the Crusades, which had been lost for centuries

How does one misplace a castle for a few centuries? I guess they didn't have Amber Alerts back then.

28 posted on 04/17/2006 2:52:10 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: rvoitier
So, they're referring to physical remains and artifacts, as opposed to historical records?
29 posted on 04/17/2006 2:53:30 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: UCANSEE2

probably the calendar watches that were worn by the knights were broken during the battle, so the archaeologists just had to read the time and date.


30 posted on 04/17/2006 2:54:16 PM PDT by nechayev
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To: UCANSEE2
So far, their claims seem a bit outrageous as they offer no validation nor give any explanation as to the 'how' of their ability to so precisely date this find.

The date the castle fell?
31 posted on 04/17/2006 2:55:03 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: blam
The first bodies of the Knights Templar.....

HUH?

They FOUND BODIES from the 12th Century??

And they KNOW the exact date of death?

32 posted on 04/17/2006 2:55:17 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Dog Gone

"How does one misplace a castle for a few centuries?"

Well, we "lost" James Cittie (Jamestown) for a few centuries, and it's only 400 years old, so I guess it's possible to lose a castle over a much longer period of time.


33 posted on 04/17/2006 2:55:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: mnehrling

My thoughts, too. Shouldn't it be "the Knights Templar, the most important Christian military order during the Crusades..."


34 posted on 04/17/2006 2:57:04 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: RegulatorCountry
"The first bodies of the Knights Templar"

Sounds like it, huh?

35 posted on 04/17/2006 2:57:14 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat Party = Culture of Treason)
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To: hershey; Meadow Muffin

This place, too.

http://vadumiacob.huji.ac.il/


36 posted on 04/17/2006 2:58:08 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat Party = Culture of Treason)
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To: blu
"The author does make a point of telling the readers what parts of the book are real, and which are fiction."

Unlike the NY Times!

37 posted on 04/17/2006 2:58:23 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: blam
that they were killed by Saladin, the feared Muslim leader

That can't be... I thought Saladin was the wise and peaceful ruler who only wanted muslims, christians, and jews to all get along.

38 posted on 04/17/2006 2:58:50 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Dog Gone

well, if you read the sentence very carefully, it is clear that it was the Crusades, not the castle, that had been lost for centuries.
i always embed gps chips in my castles, and i have never lost any of them.


39 posted on 04/17/2006 2:58:55 PM PDT by nechayev
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To: rvoitier

"Sounds like it, huh?"

It also sounds as if the very existence of the order was being questioned, further into the article.


40 posted on 04/17/2006 2:59:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: PISANO

The new hit show "CSI Jerusalem".


41 posted on 04/17/2006 3:00:40 PM PDT by true_blue_texican ((grateful Texan!!))
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To: RegulatorCountry

I lost my house, one night. Then I sobered up.


42 posted on 04/17/2006 3:01:26 PM PDT by true_blue_texican ((grateful Texan!!))
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To: true_blue_texican

"I lost my house, one night. Then I sobered up."

Don't you just hate it when that happens?


43 posted on 04/17/2006 3:04:00 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: blu

Funnier still you should read the story of a guy named Joseph Smith.


44 posted on 04/17/2006 3:04:30 PM PDT by fish hawk (TU)
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To: ExcursionGuy84
We're knights of the round table
We dance whene'er we're able
We do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable.
We dine well here in Camelot
We eat ham and jam and spam a lot.

We're knights of the Round Table
Our shows are formidable
But many times we're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable
We're opera mad in Camelot
We sing from the diaphragm a lot.

In war we're tough and able.
Quite indefatigable
Between our quests we sequin vests
And impersonate Clark Gable
It's a busy life in Camelot.

I have to push the pram a lot.

Let's not go there... 'Tis a silly place.

45 posted on 04/17/2006 3:04:47 PM PDT by Redcloak (Messing up perfectly good threads since 1998.)
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To: blam
The first bodies of the Knights Templar, the mysterious religious order at the heart of The Da Vinci Code, have been found by archaeologists near the River Jordan in northern Israel.

Well, isn't that convenient!

46 posted on 04/17/2006 3:05:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: blu

There's a quite good novel by Umberto Eco (author of "The Name of the Rose" which became a movie) called "Foucault's Pendulum"...it's sort of "The DaVinci Code" for intelligent people...and has a sort of clever, unusual take on secret societies and conspiracies - has nothing to do with any purported family of Jesus or anything, but does center on the Templars.

It's long, and the first 50 pages are pretty boring, but then it gets good and you'll learn more about the Templars, Assassins, Rosicrucians, Bavarian Illuminati, etc. than you ever wanted to know.


47 posted on 04/17/2006 3:05:52 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: RegulatorCountry

That tone seems to be prevelant in the msm. One can sense the msm only judges from afar without doing real investigative work. But what else is new? lol


48 posted on 04/17/2006 3:05:53 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat Party = Culture of Treason)
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To: mnehrling

Totally agree, anytime the MSM gets involved the tend to screw up the facts with their stupid spin. Amen.


49 posted on 04/17/2006 3:06:42 PM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: rvoitier

Thanks for the site to review.


50 posted on 04/17/2006 3:07:13 PM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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