Seven Days in April -- Generals Prepare to 'Revolt' Against Rumsfeld

Real Clear Politics ^ | April 18, 2006 | Tony Blankley

[Gamecock]

Untill then, keep your piehole shut.

I suppose the same could be said about you and everyone else on this board. Who died and left you the suspender of Constitutional rights?

[Coldwater Creek]

They just thought that they did it with DeLay.

My guess is that he will be found not guilty, and then move on too making life miserable for the Dems.

[SubMareener]

This sounds like either Holbrooke's daydream, or the old Oxford-Fulbright cell is getting desperate!

[ChinaThreat]

Can you tell me what is wrong with the statement "You go to war with the Army you have." Its the truth. What other Army are you going to go to war with? The one you WISH you had? What nonesense. Rumsfeld is an innovator and has ruffled feathers as any trailblazer would. These upstarts are just pissed because he rained on their parade or canceled their pet projects.

Some people have a hard time with reality. Apparently you are one of them.

[dfwgator]

The generals need to be reminded of the words of Clemenceau, "War is a series of calamaties that result in victory." And we are getting victory in Iraq, regardless of what the MSM says.

[ChinaThreat]

Nobody. As a citizen it is my duty to uphold the constitution. Sedition in war time used to be a serious offense. Nowadays, it is treated as "free speech". That is why we can't prosecute a war without encouraging the enemy. Ask the VC what they think about "free speech".

[dfwgator]

but one of the problems with THAT particular style is that when things go south, you don't have any friends to help you out.

Rumsfeld has the only friend that matters, President Bush.

[Coldwater Creek]

Isn't that the truth!!!!!!!!1

[johnny7]

RATher/Mapes/DNC... Wilson/Plame/DNC... Zinni/Batiste/DNC...

[cookcounty]

"Consider two hypothetical situations. In the first, a United States Army general officer in a theater of war decides by himself that he strongly disagrees with the orders of the secretary of defense. He resigns his commission, returns to private life and speaks out vigorously against both the policy and the secretary of defense. "

The first example is the proper and correct way to act. That General Baptiste went along with everything, going out of his way to thickly slather praise upon Rumsfeld (while Rumsfeld could promote him) , and now, 18 months later claims to have held secret opposition to the plan is ridiculous. Typical careerist garbage.

[gogeo]

(Remember his flippant "You go into battle with the Army you've got sergeant!" made to the National Guardsman complaining about lack of armor in Iraq?)

That comment was spot on; don't forget the question that led up to it was a set up.

Rumsfeld has my support, and if anything I think a few more Generals need to retire.

[Rokke]

"How can one story have so many errors? Easy, this is a pipe dream by the defeatist, military hating media."

I can't believe it took until your post to read some common sense. Sometimes it just baffles me that people can still be so naive as to believe anything they read in the media. Especially when it concerns attacks against Bush, Cheney or Rumsfeld.

Excuse me, but does everybody realize this work of fiction was suggested by Richard Holbroke in the Washington Post?!?! This is so much baloney it isn't even worth reading, nevermind discussing.

[Rokke]

" "Dumsfeld" (his Pentagon moniker) is the most hated SECDEF by the military since McNamara!"

Sorry, but you simply have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. None.

[dfwgator]

What Would Patton Do?

[gogeo]

But, as I said, there are all kinds of leaders, but one of the problems with THAT particular style is that when things go south, you don't have any friends to help you out.

I don't want Rumsfeld making friends at the Pentagon.

[dfwgator]

McNamara isn't worthy to shine Rumsfeld's shoes.

[Gamecock]

***Ask the VC what they think about "free speech".***

Ask any tin-pot dictator the same. If you like stomping out dissent so much I'm sure there are a wide variety of third world dictatorships that would welcome you with open arms.

[gogeo]

I suppose the same could be said about you and everyone else on this board. Who died and left you the suspender of Constitutional rights?

I'm amazed at the number of posters who don't understand the difference between "You sound stupid," and "Shut up or I'll arrest you."

I suspect they only shut up when forced, which is not a good commentary on them at all.

[NAVY84]

Mutiny is not valid, however Treason does not require them to be in uniform.

[jimfree]

When you consider the different times and locations of the generals' remarks, then a "mutininy" seems unlikely. Also, the author fails in one very important point: If a general is retired, he no longer is subject to UCMJ and can no longer be a "mutineer". Once retired, he becomes nothing more than a loud, informed, critic just like any other US citizen.

The supposition is that some form of conspiracy was committed prior to retirement. Assuming that the statute of limitations hasn't expired one may be recalled to active duty to answer charges for crimes committed while on active duty. Uncommon, but possible. Certainly in this political environment any attempt to recall one of those generals would be viewed as a political attack. Will not happen or even be considered.