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Minutemen to Bush: Build Fence or We Will
Associated Press ^ | ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN

Posted on 04/20/2006 6:12:54 AM PDT by 300magnum

TUCSON, Ariz. - Minuteman border watch leader Chris Simcox has a message for President Bush: Build new security fencing along the border with Mexico or private citizens will.

Simcox said Wednesday that he's sending an ultimatum to the president, through the media, of course — "You can't get through to the president any other way" — to deploy military reserves and the National Guard to the Arizona border by May 25.

Or, Simcox said, by the Memorial Day weekend Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteers and supporters will break ground to start erecting fencing privately.

"We have had landowners approach," Simcox said in an interview. "We've been working on this idea for a while. We're going to show the federal government how easy it is to build these security fences, how inexpensively they can be built when built by private people and free enterprise."

Simcox said a half-dozen landowners along the Arizona-Mexico border have said they will allow fencing to be placed on their borderlands, and others in California, Texas and New Mexico have agreed to do so as well.

"Certainly, as with everything else, we're only able to cover a small portion of the border," Simcox said. "The state and federal government have bought up most of the land around the border. I suspect that's why we'll never get control of the border."

But he said the plan is to put up secure fencing that truly will be an effective deterrent, and to show how easily it can be accomplished.

Simcox gave this description of the envisioned barrier-and-fencing complex:

Start with a 6-foot deep trench so a vehicle can't crash through; behind it, roll of concertina (coiled, razor-edged barbed wire), in front of a 15-foot high heavy-gauge steel mesh fence angled outward at the top.

Behind the fence will be a 60- to 70-foot wide unpaved but graded dirt road, along with inexpensive, mounted video cameras that can be monitored from home computers. On the other side of the road will be a second, 15-foot fence, with more concertina wire on its outside.

"It's a very simple, effective design based on feedback we've had from Border Patrol and the military," Simcox said. "It's a fence that can be built on the cheap, effective and secure."

Simcox said supporters will try to build the fencing with volunteer labor. Surveyors and contractors have offered to help with the design and survey work, he said, and some have said they will provide heavy equipment.

Simcox said those involved in the planning hope to keep costs to between $125 and $150 a foot.

Access to land literally on the border is an issue because so much is state-leased trust property or federally owned, he said.

"You may have to deal with a situation where private property owners erect their own fences and may be faced with the president sending the National Guard to prevent them from protecting their private property," Simcox said.

He said the Minuteman plan is "to keep turning up the heat" until President Bush has to respond somehow.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: borderfence; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; minutemen; openborders
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To: MadeInAmerica

Bubonic plague hits LA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617345/posts

LA Woman Hospitalized With Bubonic Plague
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617454/posts


161 posted on 04/20/2006 8:54:51 AM PDT by InfraRed
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To: swain_forkbeard; LPM1888
Do you think a nation should exercise control over the flow of non-citizens into its territory?

I see there is still no answer to your very simple question! Let's try posting it again, shall we?

162 posted on 04/20/2006 8:55:48 AM PDT by houeto (Report Illegals. http://www.ice.gov/partners/employers/worksite/index.htm)
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To: InfraRed

Bubonic plague has been present in California for years.


163 posted on 04/20/2006 8:56:22 AM PDT by tertiary01 (May 1st-- PINKO DE MAYO shop til you drop)
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To: ridesthemiles
They cannot read ...

How about some of these signs. ;-)


164 posted on 04/20/2006 8:56:25 AM PDT by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: InfraRed

Bubonic plague hits LA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617345/posts

LA Woman Hospitalized With Bubonic Plague
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617454/posts
________________________________________________________

This fun is just getting started. Thanks for the links.


165 posted on 04/20/2006 8:58:43 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: LPM1888

"Fourth Generation New Mexican landowner, my family Homesteaded here before it was a State. Tenth or eleventh Generation American.
Some of my ancestors were living in what is now America before there was an America. Others came later, my namesake sold his ship in what is now South Carolina in about 1750 and headed West.

We welcome all except racists and bigots."

You seriously need to pull your head out of your a$$. You have come to this forum and accused us of being racists and bigots for wanting to protect OUR country. I am a native New Mexican, born and raised in Bernalillo. My family has been there since the 1600's. My last name is Castillo, so your bullshiite race card will not work on me. I have stepped up to the plate, and have protected this country for the last 22 years. I enlisted in the Marine Corps after high school, giving up a track scholarship to New Mexico Highlands. ILLEGAL AILIENS have no right to be here, and you can kiss my a$$!!


166 posted on 04/20/2006 9:00:47 AM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: 300magnum

LOL! That's one of the various pet names I have for my ex.


167 posted on 04/20/2006 9:03:04 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: LPM1888

One wall kept people in, the other keeps people out. See the difference?


168 posted on 04/20/2006 9:05:05 AM PDT by FightThePower!
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To: LPM1888
Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?

The Berlin wall was built to keep people IN.

169 posted on 04/20/2006 9:07:42 AM PDT by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: sean327

Thank you for your service, and God bless you and your family.


170 posted on 04/20/2006 9:08:00 AM PDT by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: tx4guns

That's 1.5 billion, not trillion. Check your numbers.


171 posted on 04/20/2006 9:09:21 AM PDT by FightThePower!
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To: plain talk

A small price to pay in reality. But the issue is that private landowners dont own all of the border, so if the minutemen can show how relatively cheap it is, then perhaps the government will catch on. I think that was their point. $1.584B is a fraction of the cost of the WOT and will probably prevent future terror.


172 posted on 04/20/2006 9:09:50 AM PDT by gun_supporter
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To: LPM1888
Some of my ancestors were living in what is now America before there was an America.

What you don't realize, with your narrow and selective recall of your ancestor's history, is that those ancestors stole the land from the previous occupants. Your ancestors only succeeded because they had a bigger army than the previous owners.

Even if you could prove you were a direct descendant of the Olmecs, that still wouldn't legitimize your apparent claim to some moral superiority. There is evidence even the Olmecs were not the first civilization on this continent.

The Mayans stole from the Olmecs, the Aztecs stole from the Mayans, the Spanish stole from the Aztecs, and now the Half-Spanish/Half-Aztec are trying to steal from us. (And BTW, WE didn't steal this land from Mexico--we purchased it). The Aztecs at least put up a fight, but you deny us the same right? What chutzpah.

173 posted on 04/20/2006 9:12:18 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Wallace T.

Excellent post!


174 posted on 04/20/2006 9:12:28 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: LPM1888
That is exactly the same type of people who have created the America that we know today.

Nonsense.

My grand parents came here legally. They were invited.

175 posted on 04/20/2006 9:14:35 AM PDT by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: LPM1888
That is something for all Americans to be ashamed of.

I would be ashamed of you, if I gave a rip about you.

176 posted on 04/20/2006 9:17:12 AM PDT by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: LPM1888
I am a Native New Mexican, fourth generation.

So your people sneaked in as criminals?

177 posted on 04/20/2006 9:21:27 AM PDT by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: LPM1888

Millions of poor people all around the world "just want a better life for themselves and their families." Should they all be allowed to swarm in here too at will, and illegally? If your answer to the question is no, then why should Central and South Americans be allowed to come here illegally and at will?


178 posted on 04/20/2006 9:25:53 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: LPM1888
We welcome all except racists and bigots.

Interesting that you should bring this up. Every recent pro-illegal immigrant rally or march has been nothing less than bigotry on parade.

Anti-American bigotry, celebrated by the mainstream media - with a side dish of racism against white people.

You claim to not welcome such behavior - but here you are, defending the very same.

179 posted on 04/20/2006 9:30:12 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: LPM1888
"Your attempt to use fear tactics to promote your agenda is pathetic."

Your ridiculing someone who doesn't agree with you is what's pathetic. If they 'just want a better life for themselves and their families', then how do you explain the Mexican flags being displayed, all the talk about reclaiming what they lost to the U. S two centuries ago, and the simple fact that they acted illegally by simply entering this country in the first place?

If they are solely interested in bettering themselves, then they should have the character and comportment to go through the proper legal channels and obtain visas. If not, then they don't warrant or deserve my respect nor compassion. And, neither do you.

180 posted on 04/20/2006 9:30:25 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" - Anonymous)
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