Posted on 04/20/2006 6:12:54 AM PDT by 300magnum
TUCSON, Ariz. - Minuteman border watch leader Chris Simcox has a message for President Bush: Build new security fencing along the border with Mexico or private citizens will.
Simcox said Wednesday that he's sending an ultimatum to the president, through the media, of course — "You can't get through to the president any other way" — to deploy military reserves and the National Guard to the Arizona border by May 25.
Or, Simcox said, by the Memorial Day weekend Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteers and supporters will break ground to start erecting fencing privately.
"We have had landowners approach," Simcox said in an interview. "We've been working on this idea for a while. We're going to show the federal government how easy it is to build these security fences, how inexpensively they can be built when built by private people and free enterprise."
Simcox said a half-dozen landowners along the Arizona-Mexico border have said they will allow fencing to be placed on their borderlands, and others in California, Texas and New Mexico have agreed to do so as well.
"Certainly, as with everything else, we're only able to cover a small portion of the border," Simcox said. "The state and federal government have bought up most of the land around the border. I suspect that's why we'll never get control of the border."
But he said the plan is to put up secure fencing that truly will be an effective deterrent, and to show how easily it can be accomplished.
Simcox gave this description of the envisioned barrier-and-fencing complex:
Start with a 6-foot deep trench so a vehicle can't crash through; behind it, roll of concertina (coiled, razor-edged barbed wire), in front of a 15-foot high heavy-gauge steel mesh fence angled outward at the top.
Behind the fence will be a 60- to 70-foot wide unpaved but graded dirt road, along with inexpensive, mounted video cameras that can be monitored from home computers. On the other side of the road will be a second, 15-foot fence, with more concertina wire on its outside.
"It's a very simple, effective design based on feedback we've had from Border Patrol and the military," Simcox said. "It's a fence that can be built on the cheap, effective and secure."
Simcox said supporters will try to build the fencing with volunteer labor. Surveyors and contractors have offered to help with the design and survey work, he said, and some have said they will provide heavy equipment.
Simcox said those involved in the planning hope to keep costs to between $125 and $150 a foot.
Access to land literally on the border is an issue because so much is state-leased trust property or federally owned, he said.
"You may have to deal with a situation where private property owners erect their own fences and may be faced with the president sending the National Guard to prevent them from protecting their private property," Simcox said.
He said the Minuteman plan is "to keep turning up the heat" until President Bush has to respond somehow.
Hilarious. (Doubtless the admin. will dig up a dusty law that says you can't build a fence on an international border without govt. approval.)
They should create a "wall fund" I'd donate right away.
If its private property, they can build a theme park on it for all the Gov't can do.
Great idea!!!!
Perhaps we should inform our gutless, ballless, clueless congress-critters( mine are Kind, Kohl, and Findsgold.......can't describe them any better) that this year our donations go to the fence fund rather than their campain funds
POST A THREAD! titled just that...It will galvanize quickly
Heh. Yahknowwhat? That's a great idea...
Oooohhh ... Vincente Fox ain't gonna be too happy about that.
Behind the fence will be a 60- to 70-foot wide unpaved but graded dirt road, along with inexpensive, mounted video cameras that can be monitored from home computers. On the other side of the road will be a second, 15-foot fence, with more concertina wire on its outside.
"It's a very simple, effective design based on feedback we've had from Border Patrol and the military," Simcox said. "It's a fence that can be built on the cheap, effective and secure."
Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?
The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.
Won't this fence inhibit the migration of gila monsters? (/s)
Of course you will be using union labor and union rules, following every OSHA regulation, etc.etc., I presume.
Actually this is a worthy idea. We are conservatives, are we not? It is liberals that go running to the government for everything.
Once again Government need to be shown the way.
I don't agree.
they have to get building permits...remember it isn't a free country
Great Idea Bumparooni ...
Hey they can have a "private" draft and have their own militia "supervising" the building ala the building the of the Berlin wall.
Hey they can have a "private" draft and have their own militia "supervising" the building ala the building the of the Berlin wall.
Your comparison of a border wall to the Berlin Wall is ill conceived. The Communists built the wall to keep its enslaved subjects from escaping to freedom. This wall, if built, will protect free men from losing their freedom to hordes of Third Worlders. You might as well analogize the slave ships that brought Africans against their will to this country to the vessels that brought people seeking freedom and opportunity to our shores.
KELO anyone???????????????
Amen. I will be proud to donate a foot of fence!
Maybe to sell this idea, we could have our names on every foot donated!
I would also be proud to have an illegal (thwarted in his attempt at crossing) to read (in spanish) "This section of fence donated by...ME!"
LOL! That'd be kewl.
Well, you'll need a lot of donors.
2000 miles X 5280 ft/mile x $150 = $1.584B
I just sent my donation for 2 feet of fence.
Oh hell yes!!!! Great idea, wish I had thought of it first!
"They should create a "wall fund" I'd donate right away."
Oh, I'm sure they will be doing just that in the very near future. But, heck, I'll donate.
Perhaps you'd feel a little differently if it was your property being trampled on, your house broken in to, equipment stolen, piles of dirty diapers and discarded plastic containers and clothes, etc. What would be your solution......standing at the border handing out maps and travel $?
Yes, but the Berlin Wall worked...no one ran to West Berlin through the Wall. So would a border wall work. It would mean people who wanted to come to America would have to come legally.
I presume that volunteers working for free on private land would not be subject to the usual union thuggery and mordita.That the government chooses to knuckle under to such is a whole other ball of stupidity.
Once again, the Minutemen are leading the way to the protection of our private property and national sovereignty!
If these measures are taken those who wish to work in America will have a couple options.
1. Sneak in illegally through narrow federal land bottlenecks and move to liberal havens such as Massachusetts or Vermont where the laws are favorable to them.
2.Go through the proper channels to receive green cards, become accounted for and either leave when the card expires or request a path to citizenship.
This will cause Mexican immigrants to view those who do sneak in as cheaters and the stake the new citizens or even those with workers permits will have in keeping illegals out will be the same as ours.
Just wait till the EPA hears about this and declares the property "protected".
Threatening your good deal with the illegals, eh?
Hey, they are just doing the job that a certain 535+1 Americans won't. That should justify whatever they choose to do, right?
Your attempt to use fear tactics to promote your agenda is pathetic.
Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?
Come on man, really! Why do these ranchers need all that land anyway. I mean I don't have that much property why should they get it? So they can act like a bunch of Nazis and oppress a bunch of poor migrants yearning for a better life? Maybe if they put trash cans on their property the migrants would deposit them in the can./sarc
Actually 260 people died trying to cross the Berlin wall and that is the Official estimate, the number was probably higher.
BTW, do have a picture of communist leader Erich Honneker haning in your home or office? Since you seem to admire so much the communist building of the wall.
No, the people who created the America that we know today immigrated LEGALLY.
What part of ILLEGAL seems to escape your comprehension.
Title 8 - Section 1025 states that anyone who fails to pass through an inspection when entering the country is guilty of a misdemeanor. After being deported and again entering without inspection, the charge is elevated to a felony. The law is on the books, Nimrod.
Send a Brick to build a wall
http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1617030/posts
Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?
The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.
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Foolish words. You might want to break open a history book or 2.
The BERLIN WALL was to keep their people IN...not out. HUGE difference.
The Minute Men are the example of the Constitution of these United States of America.
No, just welcoming good people to America.
" The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen."
Not for most Americans.........time for you to head back to the DU barn.
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