Posted on 04/20/2006 6:12:54 AM PDT by 300magnum
TUCSON, Ariz. - Minuteman border watch leader Chris Simcox has a message for President Bush: Build new security fencing along the border with Mexico or private citizens will.
Simcox said Wednesday that he's sending an ultimatum to the president, through the media, of course — "You can't get through to the president any other way" — to deploy military reserves and the National Guard to the Arizona border by May 25.
Or, Simcox said, by the Memorial Day weekend Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteers and supporters will break ground to start erecting fencing privately.
"We have had landowners approach," Simcox said in an interview. "We've been working on this idea for a while. We're going to show the federal government how easy it is to build these security fences, how inexpensively they can be built when built by private people and free enterprise."
Simcox said a half-dozen landowners along the Arizona-Mexico border have said they will allow fencing to be placed on their borderlands, and others in California, Texas and New Mexico have agreed to do so as well.
"Certainly, as with everything else, we're only able to cover a small portion of the border," Simcox said. "The state and federal government have bought up most of the land around the border. I suspect that's why we'll never get control of the border."
But he said the plan is to put up secure fencing that truly will be an effective deterrent, and to show how easily it can be accomplished.
Simcox gave this description of the envisioned barrier-and-fencing complex:
Start with a 6-foot deep trench so a vehicle can't crash through; behind it, roll of concertina (coiled, razor-edged barbed wire), in front of a 15-foot high heavy-gauge steel mesh fence angled outward at the top.
Behind the fence will be a 60- to 70-foot wide unpaved but graded dirt road, along with inexpensive, mounted video cameras that can be monitored from home computers. On the other side of the road will be a second, 15-foot fence, with more concertina wire on its outside.
"It's a very simple, effective design based on feedback we've had from Border Patrol and the military," Simcox said. "It's a fence that can be built on the cheap, effective and secure."
Simcox said supporters will try to build the fencing with volunteer labor. Surveyors and contractors have offered to help with the design and survey work, he said, and some have said they will provide heavy equipment.
Simcox said those involved in the planning hope to keep costs to between $125 and $150 a foot.
Access to land literally on the border is an issue because so much is state-leased trust property or federally owned, he said.
"You may have to deal with a situation where private property owners erect their own fences and may be faced with the president sending the National Guard to prevent them from protecting their private property," Simcox said.
He said the Minuteman plan is "to keep turning up the heat" until President Bush has to respond somehow.
Come on, surely you cannot be this stupid and say they are good people. You apparently have no life and just want to argue. Anyway, it keeps pumping this thread.
The Minute Men are the example of the Constitution of these United States of America
And the exaxt quote in the Constitution where it says Americans should build a wall?
Whew you sound like the liberals with this "living Constitution" stuff.
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Our Government WILL protect our borders from Invasion. Have you ever read it? Obviously not.
Only an IDIOT would consider 30 million ILLEGALS pouring over our borders not an invasion.
The racists and bigots who have stolen the name of the Minute Men are only an example of racism and bigotry. That is something for all Americans to be ashamed of.
Then call them hog pens or chicken coops, or build 20 foot high outhouses......with very deep pits......
It ain'y a fence anymore.....
Did'jall hear about the feller that's going to start a Radio Free Mexico in a few months? It sounded really interesting. He thinks he is going to buy time in Mexico City, Veracruz, Monterrey, places like that, and tell the people the truth. He says Mexico has freedom of the press, he's going to say not that much different than what Calderon stands for... I don't think the mexican goobernment is going to like it much, and I don't think they're going to allow it to happen.
Obviously you are not living in a border state....unless you are simple and just plain dirt stupid.... If you are, I sincerely wish you a speedy recovery....
They'll just invoke Eminent Domain. Sounds a lot like Manifest Destiny in this context.
I agree with Ann Coulter. Send all the illegals BACK to the border, put them to work building the wall. MY idea is AFTER they build they wall, put them on the south side and have them dig a moat. When they finish we have solved two problems - we're on OUR side and they're on THEIR side.
It would be just as ugly no matter which side it was seen.
I will pay AND help build it! Great idea.
I don't get it.
Why are they a disgrace?
Since when is it a disgrace to protect your country from invasion??
The Minute Men are the example of the Constitution of these United States of America
The racists and bigots who have stolen the name of the Minute Men are only an example of racism and bigotry. That is something for all Americans to be ashamed of.
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Racism-Bigotry? You must be a troll for DUmmies. I do not want 30 MILLION of ANY RACE to come into this country ILLEGALLY.
Now take your race card and shove it. That card is no longer accepted in this country!
Posting from an engineer's perspective:
Assuming there is 2000 miles of border (just an estimate), that's 10,560,000 feet. At an estimated $150 per foot, that comes to $1.584 Trillion. Let's assume half of the border needs to be fenced due to natural barriers, that's still over $750 Billion to do the job. If each donor buys a foot of wall, that will require 5.2 million US citizens to donate $150 each. Probably feasible, but it's gonna take a lot of work.
Barn Raiser!
The pound-per-square-inch pressure those little jaws can produce is remarkable!
Where do I send $100 contribution??????
Gimme a break. You know why they would do this, outside of the publicity? Because the ranch families need help. They have tens and hundreds of unscrupulous, sometimes desperate men crossing their ranches every night. Often they commit property crimes. Sometimes they commit violent crimes. The people can't get any help. So this will help them be safe, and coincidentally it will make it much more difficult for the criminales to get into the country.
A fence is the way to go. Once they're in you have to deal with them, and the money pump never stops. Keep them out and they remain Vince's problema.
LOL! I thought it was Leo DeCrapio.
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