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To: 300magnum
Start with a 6-foot deep trench so a vehicle can't crash through; behind it, roll of concertina (coiled, razor-edged barbed wire), in front of a 15-foot high heavy-gauge steel mesh fence angled outward at the top.

Behind the fence will be a 60- to 70-foot wide unpaved but graded dirt road, along with inexpensive, mounted video cameras that can be monitored from home computers. On the other side of the road will be a second, 15-foot fence, with more concertina wire on its outside.

"It's a very simple, effective design based on feedback we've had from Border Patrol and the military," Simcox said. "It's a fence that can be built on the cheap, effective and secure."

Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?

The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.

11 posted on 04/20/2006 6:35:27 AM PDT by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: LPM1888
The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.

I don't agree.

19 posted on 04/20/2006 6:42:19 AM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: LPM1888
Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?

Hey they can have a "private" draft and have their own militia "supervising" the building ala the building the of the Berlin wall.

22 posted on 04/20/2006 6:45:29 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: LPM1888
Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?

Hey they can have a "private" draft and have their own militia "supervising" the building ala the building the of the Berlin wall.


23 posted on 04/20/2006 6:46:53 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: LPM1888
The Minute Men of 1775 protected America from foreign invaders (British) and a hostile, unjust government (the English Crown). Their counterparts of 2006 protect America from foreign invaders (illegal aliens) and a hostile, unjust government (the Federal and state governments). Losing this country to an influx of illegals in the 21st Century is as much a threat as its loss to British bureaucrats and soldiers was in the 18th Century. God bless the Minute Men.

Your comparison of a border wall to the Berlin Wall is ill conceived. The Communists built the wall to keep its enslaved subjects from escaping to freedom. This wall, if built, will protect free men from losing their freedom to hordes of Third Worlders. You might as well analogize the slave ships that brought Africans against their will to this country to the vessels that brought people seeking freedom and opportunity to our shores.

24 posted on 04/20/2006 6:48:26 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: LPM1888

Perhaps you'd feel a little differently if it was your property being trampled on, your house broken in to, equipment stolen, piles of dirty diapers and discarded plastic containers and clothes, etc. What would be your solution......standing at the border handing out maps and travel $?


32 posted on 04/20/2006 6:59:47 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: LPM1888

Threatening your good deal with the illegals, eh?


38 posted on 04/20/2006 7:05:56 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: LPM1888
The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.

Hey, they are just doing the job that a certain 535+1 Americans won't. That should justify whatever they choose to do, right?

40 posted on 04/20/2006 7:08:10 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LPM1888

Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?



um....because they are trying to keep people OUT not IN?


43 posted on 04/20/2006 7:09:25 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: LPM1888

Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?

The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.
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Foolish words. You might want to break open a history book or 2.

The BERLIN WALL was to keep their people IN...not out. HUGE difference.

The Minute Men are the example of the Constitution of these United States of America.


48 posted on 04/20/2006 7:14:11 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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" The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen."

Not for most Americans.........time for you to head back to the DU barn.


50 posted on 04/20/2006 7:14:54 AM PDT by newcthem (Thought I was an American.......now I find I'm just a racist.)
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To: LPM1888
The only embarrassment the Minute men and women have to face is that they have to takeover the job our Gov't won't do...

God Bless these Patriots.

55 posted on 04/20/2006 7:19:15 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (NO, you can't!)
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To: LPM1888
The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.

Obviously you are not living in a border state....unless you are simple and just plain dirt stupid.... If you are, I sincerely wish you a speedy recovery....

67 posted on 04/20/2006 7:31:56 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: LPM1888

I don't get it.

Why are they a disgrace?

Since when is it a disgrace to protect your country from invasion??


72 posted on 04/20/2006 7:33:47 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: LPM1888

Gimme a break. You know why they would do this, outside of the publicity? Because the ranch families need help. They have tens and hundreds of unscrupulous, sometimes desperate men crossing their ranches every night. Often they commit property crimes. Sometimes they commit violent crimes. The people can't get any help. So this will help them be safe, and coincidentally it will make it much more difficult for the criminales to get into the country.

A fence is the way to go. Once they're in you have to deal with them, and the money pump never stops. Keep them out and they remain Vince's problema.


79 posted on 04/20/2006 7:36:24 AM PDT by Flavius Josephus (Nationalism is not a crime.)
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The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.""

Don't know where YOU live, but for those of who have had this illegal intruder problem shoved into our faces for over 30 years- STFU. I would contribute to a wall in a heartbeat, and I am living on less than $1000.month Soc Sec.


85 posted on 04/20/2006 7:38:06 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: LPM1888
Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?

Wow did not take long for someone to bring out that red herring... The Berlin wall was about keeping a population trapped within borders. A fence on the US border is about keeping people who come here illegally out!

The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.

I find the fact we are contemplating for the second time in two decades excusing millions of law breakers slightly more embarrassing..

87 posted on 04/20/2006 7:39:30 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.

Me thinks thou dost protest too much. Is money or family involved in your opinion?

92 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:41 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !! BUILD THE WALL! PROTECT OUR BORDERS!)
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To: LPM1888
The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.

Your opinion is duly noted. Then again, you know what they say about opinions.
119 posted on 04/20/2006 8:00:57 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: LPM1888
The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.

Wouldn't want you beside me when the chips are down. Our nation is not only flooded with illegals and their sympathizers but also enablers, like you.

You must be a real piece of work, someone that everyone pushes around and tramples over. No sign of backbone, pride in country or own identity..........unless of course you're one of the illegals that the rest of us are trying to keep out, which would explain your attitude.

124 posted on 04/20/2006 8:04:48 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: LPM1888

If you are soo patriotic and in love with the ideals of our founding fathers why do you feel you need to impress those in other countries above all. I think you are the embarrassment!


143 posted on 04/20/2006 8:34:09 AM PDT by tertiary01 (May 1st-- PINKO DE MAYO shop til you drop)
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