Posted on 04/20/2006 11:33:27 AM PDT by FARS
Hope over spray
AN ORDINARY handwash costing just £2.99 can kill the bird flu virus in 30 seconds, tests have found.
No-Germs, a simple hand spray, has been on sale over the counter for two years. But when the H5N1 avian flu outbreak gathered pace among birds, No-Germs owners decided to test it against the virus.
The results, revealed yesterday, were remarkable - the handwash was more tha 99.8 per cent efficient in killing H5N1. The discovery has been heralded as a "major breakthrough" - particularly if the virus ever mutates into a human form.
Sean Campbell, managing director of the British company behind the product, said: "We are very excited.
"We tested the product against H5N1 on the off-chance. We were confident it would work as it kills most viruses, including hospital superbug MRSA.
"The tests are incredibly thorough and took a few months.
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"We put the virus into kidney cells, then the product. The test was whether the product protected the kidney cells from the virus, which it did.
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"Eighty per cent of all common illnesses are spread by hand to mouth, nose and eye contact. Killing the H5N1 virus before it has a chance to enter the body is the key.
"On average, people touch their faces every five minutes and that is how germs spread.
"We can say with total confidence No-Germs will protect against H5N1. We will now work hard to get the product included in any H5N1 emergency pack."
No-Germs is already widely available in the UK.
Stores including Tesco, Boots, WH Smith, Londis, Moto and Superdrug have stocked it.
The product was developed two years ago in an effort to tackle MRSA.
No-Germs was tested against a strain of H5N1 at a lab at Queen Mary's School of Medicine and Dentistry in the University of London.
H5N1 has killed more than 100 people worldwide - but almost all were in direct contact with diseased birds.
No we know why liberals are so afraid of the bird flu, they don't use soap.
Just wash out your lungs with it 2x daily. No problem.
Wash all your birds.

I have 50 gallon drums of this stuff in the Fierro Family Bunker.
France is doomed.
This doesn't bode well for France.
Do they make a purell inhaler?
Buy No-Germs stock!
ABSOLUTE PANDEMIC....my crazy lib aunt at the CDC is still all freaked out about the brid flu comming here. Three guesses who she blames for it...but you will only need one.
Alcohol, sufficiently strong, in various, 2- 3- and 4-carbon molecules is amazingly good at killing germs or all sorts. So, keep Lysol and Absolut around for those bird flu scare days.
Gargling with Absolut works for me, and you don't have to spit it out.
Is she equally concerned about the impact of human-borne viruses entering our populace via bio-terrorists? THOSE viruses are KNOWN to transmit human-to-human, and are known to kill.
Not to pick on your aunt at the CDC, but let's worry about real threats AND do something good to fight them.
I was gonna say - isn't this virus airborne?
Many of these citizens haven't the sense to get out of the rain and probably don't care where their chicken comes from.
Wash your hands?
Wash your mouth!
Bird Flu? Yeah, sure. Some people will latch onto the shirt tail of any idle rumor to make a buck.
http://www.advancedformulations.com/no_germs/no_germs_prod_1.htm
There is another company on the penny stock market - efood safety, that has recently announced that one of it's products, an anti bacterial spray can eliminate the H9N2 virus. The spray is used on the bird cages/hen houses.
"ONE SECOND! - you got to be kidding me!"
SCOREBOARD!
Ha! If it mutates into human form it might go out and milk the cows; make sure it washes its hands first.
No - generally transmitted by human contact with avian feces/urine and similar. Not "airborne" like pollen. Could of course be aspired by a vicious sneeze or cough from your dying feathered friend. But contact-transmission is the current MO.
Oh she's paranoid about all of it...
ROTFLMAO!!
Wash all your birds.
Yes, but what if Al Qaeda bombs out soap factories and we run out of soap? This settles it--we're definitely DOOMED.
I bet 4 seconds of sunshine will kill the virus also
Somehow this does not inspire confidence in our CDC researchers, perhaps because of the apparent previous lack of testing of such simple and obvious measures for stopping the spread of this virus.
...or 3 seconds of exposure to Helen Thomas on the TV screen.
In a pinch you could try snorting rubbing alcohol.
Well, drinking beer has been damn effective so far at keeping me Bird-Flu free, so I guess I'll keep that up.
Yep, Bio-terror is the poor man's holocaust.
Epsilon Xi, University of Houston, 1990...
In Hoc, Bro.
"I was gonna say - isn't this virus airborne?'
Soak your filter mask with Chivas.

We keep plenty of this expensive stuff around. You can add it to water and drink the water. It kills germs, cleans laundry, and is dirt cheap. Guaranteed to kill "bird flu". We used this stuff in 1975 on the Newcastle bird flu. It worked.
Check these out and some can be aerosolized:
http://www.evansvanodine.co.uk/product-range-pages/livestock-hygiene-pages/farm.htm
"one second"
I have noticed that this is not really a rare phenomenon on FR
Drat! Now fear-mongers will have to find a new headline for newsies.
My semi-crazy fiance quit eating chicken a couple of months ago because he just knows the bird flu is going to get here any minute.
I just cackle at him as I explain if I should somehow have any remote chance of 'catching' bird flu by eating my fried chicken, I'll be the one giving it to him. (So far he hasn't bought any rubber gloves or started shaking my hand)
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAa...anything "fried" should be of no worry for traces of viruses.
I bet you miss Houston.
The issue is that this isn't taught in elementary school the way is was decades ago and our population is not in the habit of utilizing the measure.
If a virulent flu starts, it will be a surprise if a vast majority of the population learns this habit in a matter of days.
Exactly- what I was taught in the sewage plant lab over thirty years ago was "wash frequently, use disposable paper towels to dry, and keep your hands below your collar.
Actually, that's a comparatively minor threat. A much more cost-effective strategy would be to develop a plant virus that targets our food crops. Wipe out wheat, corn and rice production and sit back and watch your enemies starve to death (with the added bonus of rioting when food supplies run out.)
At times I really do but other times you couldn't pay me enough money to come home. Even though I still consider it home, I don't miss the traffic or the blink and you miss winter.
I've tried to explain to fiance that so far the people who have caught bird flu did so because they lived in close proximity to live birds. Oh well! We all have our little quirks...his happens to be he's a native Oklahoman.
You are right about the incubation periods. Most of what people are really scared of simply kill to quickly to get good transmission. Ebola, and even the H5N1 variants kill the host.
I read stories about the 1918 events. People, apparently totally healthy at 8 AM, then dead at midnight. But if that were to happen now, you can bet the area would be sealed pretty quick.
Another good reason to not live in an urban area, though.
whelps, u can't cure that...
Exactly, u have to live in, and amongst, wild birds.
Last time I checked ducks, geese, and chickens were not roaming around my condo in the galleria area. Thus, nothing to worry about.
However, SW Houston might be impacted...ha!
We had our quarterly safety meeting on that Saturday morning with some of us cooking sausage and eggs for a thanks-for-participating breakfast. As we were all eating breakfast at the meeting tables I said to her, "Well, Shirley, I guess we are all going to get Mad Cow disease the way the guys are wolfing down these sausage patties."
She responded, "Oh, Burke, you guys don't have to worry.
Men can't get Mad Cow disease ----
----all men are pigs."
Snicker!
Sounds a little as if she regarded herself as part bovine.
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