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Details on 11 Priests Missing in '04 Report( Mahoney: Pedo Protector)
LA Times ^ | 4/20/06 | By Jean Guccione and William Lobdell, Times Staff Writers

Posted on 04/20/2006 12:21:15 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Cardinal Roger M. Mahony acknowledged to Los Angeles Catholics in his 2004 "Report to the People of God" that he left five priests in ministry despite complaints that they had molested children.

But a Times analysis of church records released since then shows that he left 11 other priests in ministry for periods up to 13 years after parishioners raised concerns about inappropriate behavior with children.

Seven of these 11 cases were not detailed in the People of God report. The other four were mentioned incompletely; the report said they were removed when complaints were lodged but did not disclose that the Los Angeles Archdiocese had received earlier reports of misconduct.

The Times analyzed edited summaries of personnel records written and posted on a public website by the archdiocese in October. The summaries were first given to counsel for more than 500 plaintiffs suing the church over alleged sexual abuse by priests. The archdiocese and the plaintiffs are engaged in court-ordered mediation.

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Mahony has fought to keep from releasing full personnel files either to prosecutors or plaintiffs' lawyers in the civil cases. On Monday, however, the U.S. Supreme Court let stand a California appellate court ruling requiring him to hand over to prosecutors the files of two priests who are under criminal investigation.

Legal experts have said the high court's refusal to hear Mahony's appeal increases the likelihood that the Los Angeles church may soon have to hand over many more confidential documents in the civil cases.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: abusescandal; cardinalmahony; catholic; losangeles; mahony; priestshellgame; rogermahony

1 posted on 04/20/2006 12:21:18 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
Early on in the scandal Mahony tried to sell himself to the press as the only bishop in America who had boldly confronted the problem and who was forthright with the public.

That spin is now utterly dead.

2 posted on 04/20/2006 12:24:09 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: BurbankKarl

incredible.


3 posted on 04/20/2006 12:30:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: BurbankKarl
Imagine a company or government agency (not congress) where perverts were shuffled around to hush up problems. Public outrage and media pontificating (no pun intended) would be loud. This should be investigated under the RICO statutes and some Cardinals should be imprisoned. I'd also make a case of taking away their tax exempt status as a result for their allowing pedophiles repeated access to children.
4 posted on 04/20/2006 12:31:27 PM PDT by pikachu (For every action there is an equal and opposite government program)
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To: NormsRevenge

if you read the entire article, Mahoney's Zero Tolerance Policy was "from then on".....and didnt include past activities....

That is crazy.


5 posted on 04/20/2006 12:35:05 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Is there any doubt that Mahoney is a poofter?


6 posted on 04/20/2006 12:35:40 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: wideawake

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the LA Times apparently quite willing to shield him all along -- has something changed? Maybe it was just one reporter, but I'm sure I recall threads here about that when the Boston Globe (which supported Law in all his more crack-brained liberal notions) sprung on him with the scandal (that their reporters had known about for years) and wouldn't let go. I also seem to recall a start-up paper, "The NEW LA Times" or some such, that tried to blow the whistle on Mahony.


7 posted on 04/20/2006 12:35:54 PM PDT by maryz
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To: BurbankKarl; Caipirabob; Cacique; xsmommy
Mahoney: Pedo Protector

¿Fart Protector?

8 posted on 04/20/2006 12:35:57 PM PDT by martin_fierro (I got squirrelly nieces & nephews)
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To: BurbankKarl

Alright Catholics, time to stand up and be heard. It's mostly YOUR children that are being abused.


9 posted on 04/20/2006 12:45:16 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: pikachu

I agree 100%.


10 posted on 04/20/2006 12:47:23 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: wideawake
Early on in the scandal Mahony tried to sell himself to the press as the only bishop in America who had boldly confronted the problem and who was forthright with the public.

By the time it's all over, the LA sex abuse scandal will make Boston's problem look like the undercard. Mahoney won't be affected, though, because:

1.) He'll be protected by his "buddies" in politics and the media.

2.) He simply won't obey any directives coming out of the Vatican.
12 posted on 04/20/2006 12:51:26 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party affiliation.)
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To: pikachu
Imagine a company or government agency (not congress) where perverts were shuffled around to hush up problems.

Who's to say it doesn't and isn't reported on? I'll bet this happens more often in public schools right now than it ever did in the Catholic Church. And, I'll bet they don't keep the same kinds of disciplinary records that the Church does.
13 posted on 04/20/2006 12:53:45 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party affiliation.)
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To: Herodian
Cardinal Roger M. Mahony needs to be replaced by the Pope.

Problem there is that Cardinal Mahoney no longer obeys the Pope. He's been in crypto-schism for many years now.
14 posted on 04/20/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party affiliation.)
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To: maryz

I have no idea why the LAT flipped on him.


15 posted on 04/20/2006 12:58:27 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Antoninus
I honestly wonder what will happen when Mahony turns 75 and is required to submit a letter of resignation.

He may refuse to go.

I wonder what the domestic legal ramifications of that may be.

16 posted on 04/20/2006 1:01:10 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
I honestly wonder what will happen when Mahony turns 75 and is required to submit a letter of resignation. He may refuse to go.I wonder what the domestic legal ramifications of that may be.

I predict it will go as following. Mahoney won't submit the letter. He will then claim that he sent it and the Pope asked him to stay on. If the Vatican contradicts him publicly (which they have only very rarely done in the past when a bishop so nakedly flouts their authority), he'll just say that there was some misunderstanding and then simply not step down.

In my opinion, it will take a public letter from the Pope accepting his resignation to get Cardinal Mahoney to step down. And even then...
17 posted on 04/20/2006 1:31:17 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party affiliation.)
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To: maryz
I also seem to recall a start-up paper, "The NEW LA Times" or some such, that tried to blow the whistle on Mahony.

They didn't last too long, did they?

I think articles like this are put out there by the Cardinal's political handlers to keep him on a short leash. It's all about blackmail.
18 posted on 04/20/2006 1:33:11 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party affiliation.)
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To: Antoninus
And then . . . he still won't step down, I'm guessing.

And if he doesn't I may pull a Sicilian Vespers on him.

19 posted on 04/20/2006 1:33:45 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Antoninus

Mahoney makes me projectile vomit. The man has no shame, no conscience & no morals.


20 posted on 04/20/2006 1:37:10 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: Antoninus

Although I think these corrupt priests should be defrocked and imprisoned, its funny that there is a double standard here with regards to the state/church.
With the same type of case in a public school or social service organization, most have statute of limitations of less than 1 yr and limit the awards from states/cities/public schools to under 250K.
How often is that reported by those who only do this because they care about the "children"?
It would be nice if the goose and gander had the same standard and those "well meaning" lawyers had the same interest in the crimes being done in the public schools.


21 posted on 04/20/2006 2:42:29 PM PDT by a02001
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To: BurbankKarl

Do you suppose Mahoney recruited these guys for their special qualities? I would not put that past some of our more leftish bishops.


22 posted on 04/20/2006 2:50:01 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: Antoninus

Didn't some absolutely obscene number of molesting priests come from the LA seminary ? So obviously for some time the place was practically a sodomite bath house with crosses ?


23 posted on 04/20/2006 4:50:36 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: sinkspur; wideawake
Sink, do you think Benedict will have the moral courage to depose the wolf into whose clutches Satan has delivered the flock of Los Angeles?

Or do you think Benedict will be just as afraid to discipline evil bishops as were his predecessors?

24 posted on 04/20/2006 7:51:40 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: wideawake
He may refuse to go.

I wonder what the domestic legal ramifications of that may be.

I hate to say this, but I doubt much will happen. My guess is the Vatican will look the other way in the name of collegiality.

25 posted on 04/20/2006 7:54:22 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Or do you think Benedict will be just as afraid to discipline evil bishops as were his predecessors?

My guess is that he will not discipline a particular bishop for doing what every bishop in the world was doing.

The attitude of the Church (the Vatican included) up until the 90s was that these men were sinners and their sin could be overcome through prayer and a new assignment.

The Catholic Church (including the Vatican) was more concerned about the welfare of the offending priests than their victims. Even as late as 2002, even Cardinal Ratzinger said that the media was "sensationalizing" what were isolated incidents.

I am listening to the local news as I write this, and a Dallas teacher has been suspended after two complaints of sexual activity between himself and two students were reported to the Dallas police. The local press doesn't seem to be quite as concerned about the mounting numbers of sexual predators in area schools as they are about six priests in Fort Worth (three of whom are dead) who abused minors in the 60s and 70s.

26 posted on 04/20/2006 8:11:16 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: wideawake
I honestly wonder what will happen when Mahony turns 75 and is required to submit a letter of resignation.

He will submit it, and he will go when it is accepted.

It can't be any fun being a bishop in the Church today, especially when those in the larger dioceses spend most of their time in court.

27 posted on 04/20/2006 8:13:34 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: wideawake
I have no idea why the LAT flipped on him.

I was idly wondering when he came out with his idiotic immigration speech whether he knew something was coming out and he was moving to solidify his base, so to speak.

(The speech, of course, in which he said he'd ordered his priests to continue helping illegals had nothing to do with helping illegals or anyone else. He knew the law didn't apply to Good Samaritan type help. And if you're genuinely interested in helping people duck the law -- any law -- the last thing you do is shout, "Hey, look over here! We'll break that stinkin' law!" If, on the other hand, you want to draw lots of attention to yourself upholding some crack-brained liberal position, currying favor with your natural allies, well . . . .)

28 posted on 04/21/2006 6:29:48 AM PDT by maryz
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