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Attorney General Says Bush Had Schiavo Case Wrong
CBS4 ^ | 4/20/06 | AP

Posted on 04/20/2006 1:37:42 PM PDT by AZRepublican

CBS4/AP) WEST PALM BEACH Gov. Jeb Bush erred when he entered the bitter fight over whether to keep brain-damaged Terri Schiavo alive because government should not be involved in end-of-life decisions, Attorney General Charlie Crist said Thursday.

"I am pro-life and I respect life," Crist, a Republican candidate for governor, said at a gathering of the nonpartisan Forum Club of the Palm Beaches.

"There are some decisions that ought to be left to God and family," Crist said. "Had I have been governor, I would have not done the same thing" as Bush.

Crist's Republican challenger, Chief Financial Officer Tom Gallagher, hedged a bit, noting the importance of having a living will, something Schiavo did not have.

"These kinds of end-of-life matters do not belong in government," Gallagher said. "But when these kinds of situations come in front of me, I would always err on the side of life. I think that's what you must do when you don't know anything else."

Schiavo was at the center of a 15-year legal fight between her husband, Michael Schiavo, and her family over whether she should be kept alive with a feeding tube after a brain injury.

Congress, President Bush and Gov. Bush pressed to keep Schiavo alive. Ultimately, the courts sided with Schiavo's husband. She died of dehydration on March 31, 2005, after having her feeding tube was removed.

The Republican gubernatorial candidates also addressed crime, the economy, prayer in public schools, the environment, and property taxes.

Crist, a former education commissioner now in his fourth year as attorney general, noted that violent crime in Florida is at a 34-year low.

Crist cited the importance of passing the "anti-murder" bill now working its way through the Legislature, a measure that would allow judges to put violent criminals back in jail if they violate probation. He has made the bill one of his top legislative priorities.

"When somebody is put on probation it is a privilege, it's not a right," Crist said. "This anti-murder bill will simply say ... that if they violate probation, they will go back to jail."

The bill is similar to legislation that failed last year when lawmakers questioned the high cost of keeping thousands of additional suspects in county jails pending trials.

Gallagher said he would make crime a top priority, specifically for child sex offenders.

"I will make sure we're the toughest state in the nation when it comes to punishing our sexual predators," Gallagher said. "The bottom line is if you touch kids, you'll pay."

Gallagher touted his fiscal superiority in managing state money, touching on the economy, taxes and the soaring cost of insurance.

"Florida's economy is an economic model. We lead in job creation. We're sitting with a 3 percent unemployment rate and our state is doing well because of that," he said, adding that the state needs property tax reforms to continue to prosper.

"I believe property tax should be limited to growth plus inflation," Gallagher said. "We are facing some major challenges and it's going to take somebody who understands those challenges to help carry us through."

Crist said the state needs "less taxing, less spending, less government and more freedom."

The candidates agreed when asked by high school senior Amie Bass, 17, what their thoughts were on prayer and Bible teachings in school.

"I don't have a problem with student-led prayer anywhere," Gallagher said. Crist noted that as a member of the state Senate, he voted for student prayer. Both agreed the Bible belongs in schools.

The candidates also agreed that protecting Florida's environment was important and that the nation needs to secure its borders and stop illegal immigration.

Finally, both agreed on the most important topic of the day when asked if forced to vote for a Democrat for governor, would it be for State Sen. Rod Smith of Gainesville or U.S. Rep. Jim Davis of Tampa.

"I wouldn't vote for either one of them because I think both of us are better," Crist said to applause. "And I guess I should add I'm going to vote for me."

"I agree with Charlie," Gallagher added. "Either one of us is better than both of them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: jebbush; schiavo; schiavostalkers; shesdeadjim; terribotsoutraged
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1 posted on 04/20/2006 1:37:45 PM PDT by AZRepublican
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Attorney General Says Bush Had Schiavo Case Wrong

Little late for that now, eh?

2 posted on 04/20/2006 1:40:11 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: AZRepublican
What a dunce. Government is always heavily involved in "end of life" matters.

Last thing most people want to do is leave it up to their relatives to decide when they should die. ("Before or after Grandma signs the will, hunh Unca' Billybob?")

3 posted on 04/20/2006 1:40:12 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: AZRepublican

OK. Settled. Gallagher over Crist.


4 posted on 04/20/2006 1:40:32 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: eeevil conservative

PING a LING!


5 posted on 04/20/2006 1:41:49 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: AZRepublican

"There are some decisions that ought to be left to God and family,"

That would be the very PROBLEM!!!!

It wasn't left to "God and family". A murderous judge inserted himself in the mix and killed an innocent woman.


6 posted on 04/20/2006 1:41:50 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: AZRepublican
government should not be involved in end-of-life decisions

Then why is a governor able to grant an 11th hour stay of execution?

7 posted on 04/20/2006 1:42:55 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: tallhappy

Michael Schiavo and Scott Peterson are morally on the same level...except that Schiavo got the state to help him murder his wife. Would Crist say that Laci's death was simply a matter for Scott to decide?


8 posted on 04/20/2006 1:43:47 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

And which family is he talking about? The manipulative slime she unfortunately married or her parents. When you've got someone willing to take care of the woman and care about her, why not let her live. Anyway, we've already done all this haven't we?


9 posted on 04/20/2006 1:44:42 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: AZRepublican
"There are some decisions that ought to be left to God and family," Crist said

What a crock. There was a dispute within the family, Terri's parents on one side, her "loving husband" [spit] on the other. The court eventually came down on the side of the reputed husband, but Greer has been accused of 38 counts of judicial malfeasance. So, in the face of hideous evil, Crist would do nothing. He's worse than worthless.

10 posted on 04/20/2006 1:44:54 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: AZRepublican
"There are some decisions that ought to be left to God and family," Crist said.

Crist must be a contortionist because I don't know how he got his head up his posterior region.

11 posted on 04/20/2006 1:45:55 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: beaversmom

"Anyway, we've already done all this haven't we?"

Yea, but I still ain't over it.

I don't think I ever will be.


12 posted on 04/20/2006 1:47:21 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

bttt


13 posted on 04/20/2006 1:48:07 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: PetroniusMaximus

bttt


14 posted on 04/20/2006 1:48:12 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Crist will win.


15 posted on 04/20/2006 1:48:51 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: AZRepublican
Gov. Jeb Bush erred when he entered the bitter fight over whether to keep brain-damaged Terri Schiavo alive because government should not be involved in end-of-life decisions, Attorney General Charlie Crist said Thursday.

Guess they should stay out of murder cases too, then, eh Chucky?

What a tool. If a governor is not empowered to save a disabled woman in his jurisdiction from being starved to death by a reprobate husband and a rogue judge, just what, exactly, is the point of the checks and balances in our system anyway?

Jeb was wrong on the Schiavo case, alright. But not for the reason this bozo thinks:


16 posted on 04/20/2006 1:51:05 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party affiliation.)
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To: AZRepublican

I wish one of these 2 would run for senator.


17 posted on 04/20/2006 1:51:11 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: muawiyah

The government was already involved. Who was Judge Greer representing, the Lions Club?


18 posted on 04/20/2006 1:51:59 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Ditto that. Terri's death at the hands of murderous husband and a complicit judge is one of the most heinous examples of the failure of government to exercise justice that I've ever seen.


19 posted on 04/20/2006 1:52:47 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: AZRepublican

She was not at the end of life. She was not dying. She made no living will. Terri Schiavo was not "allowed to die," she was put to death. To a prolonged, agonizing, merciless death.


20 posted on 04/20/2006 1:53:07 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: flaglady47

I grieve for Florida.


21 posted on 04/20/2006 1:54:00 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: AZRepublican
"There are some decisions that ought to be left to God and family,"

Right. When it comes to a husband murdering his wife, what possible reason could the state have to intervene?

22 posted on 04/20/2006 1:55:08 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: tallhappy

That settles it for me, too.


23 posted on 04/20/2006 1:55:12 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: AZRepublican
Crist said this....well he lost my vote come election time!
24 posted on 04/20/2006 1:55:30 PM PDT by tonysamm
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To: Verginius Rufus
Michael Schiavo and Scott Peterson are morally on the same level...

Don't forget O.J.


25 posted on 04/20/2006 1:57:22 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: AZRepublican

But the Governor should be in charge of Steroids in Baseball? Come on now!

The Govt. must protect it's citizens. Even if from their own family.


26 posted on 04/20/2006 2:00:27 PM PDT by jw777
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To: Graymatter
Absolutely correct. And as far as the argument that government should not be involved:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident...that [citizens] are endowed with certain inalienable rights...that among those rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

What the Florida government allowed was dispicable. Neal Boortz and his ilk can kiss my ass.

27 posted on 04/20/2006 2:02:31 PM PDT by Mr Ducklips
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To: Verginius Rufus
Michael Schiavo and Scott Peterson are morally on the same level.

I don't think so.

28 posted on 04/20/2006 2:03:16 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: Mr Ducklips
that among those rights are life

which is why Terri was allowed to die. She didn't want to live like that (or so the courts found).

29 posted on 04/20/2006 2:04:30 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13

Hearsay testimony from a "husband" who had an interest in seeing her dead.


30 posted on 04/20/2006 2:07:11 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: AZRepublican

"Sorry, Charlie" but you just lost my vote.


31 posted on 04/20/2006 2:07:39 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Too soon to remember??? How about TOO SOON TO FORGET!" from Mr. Silverback)
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To: NonValueAdded

If I lived in Fl I would not vote for this man either!


32 posted on 04/20/2006 2:12:41 PM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: Graymatter

I was thinking about Terri the other day, and the shame on our society that the powers that be allowed her to be dehydrated to death while her family who wanted custody of her to care for her had to stand helplessly by.

Michael Schiavo, the vampire and nutcase Felos, and Greer are evil scum.


33 posted on 04/20/2006 2:13:04 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

I may really never recover from Terri's murder. It truly sealed the myth of judicial fairness for me for good, for one thing. And it astonished me to discover that people I thought valued life -- conservative members of Free Republic -- were cheering this cold-blooded murder on with glee.


34 posted on 04/20/2006 2:18:15 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: AZRepublican
Amendment 14, Section 1:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, (except Terri Schiavo) liberty,(except Terri Schiavo) or property(except Terri Schiavo), without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

35 posted on 04/20/2006 2:18:19 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Hearsay testimony from a "husband" who had an interest in seeing her dead.

I think that in that case that she should have been left alive. The courts did not agree, and I accept the verdict.

36 posted on 04/20/2006 2:21:35 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: bjs1779
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The case was in court for years. Terri had plenty of due process.

37 posted on 04/20/2006 2:22:32 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: freepertoo
were cheering this cold-blooded murder on with glee.

I don't recall anyone doing that.

38 posted on 04/20/2006 2:23:53 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13
The case was in court for years. Terri had plenty of due process.

She was denied the opportunity to even APPEAR in court.

39 posted on 04/20/2006 2:24:17 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: AZRepublican

Hmmm...where was Charlie Crist when an innocent woman was being dehydrated to death in his jurisdiction, in direct contradiction to Article One, Section Two of the Florida constitution?

Did he or did he not take an oath to uphold the constitution, including Article One, Section Two?

Must have had his head up some judge's butt, so he couldn't see or hear a thing...

God help us when elected officials of all three branches of government AND ordinary folks won't read and interpret the clear simple language of our foundational documents.

Charlie Crist ain't fit to be dogcatcher. If he'll treat a handicapped citizen this way, how would he treat the dogs??


40 posted on 04/20/2006 2:26:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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She was denied the opportunity to even APPEAR in court

Huh? The judges saw video and heard arguments on her behalf.

41 posted on 04/20/2006 2:27:02 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: muawiyah
Last thing most people want to do is leave it up to their relatives to decide when they should die.

Last thing most people want to do is leave it up to ex-husbands/heirs when they should die.

42 posted on 04/20/2006 2:28:39 PM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: AZRepublican

Neither Crist nor Gallagher are perfect. They take turns weaving first to the left, then to the right of each other.


43 posted on 04/20/2006 2:28:39 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: AmishDude

Very good comment. The government is involved in all kinds of life cases. After guaranteeing the right to "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness", our government legalizes murdering unborn babies. I hope the people of Fla realize what a political jackass this Crist character is.


44 posted on 04/20/2006 2:29:07 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: AZRepublican

This will get the raving moonbats in an uproar.


45 posted on 04/20/2006 2:29:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: conserv13
Terri had plenty of due process.

Bullhockey.

'Due process', as defined by the Fifth Amendment, is a court trial, for someone charged with a capital offense.

Exactly which capital crime did Terri Schindler Schiavo commit?

Which Grand Jury indited her?

When was the trial in front of a jury of her peers? I musta missed it!

If I did miss a conviction, since when are those sentenced to death allowed to be killed by 'cruel and unusual' means??

46 posted on 04/20/2006 2:30:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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To: conserv13
She didn't want to live like that (or so the courts found).

That was the one thing that did it for me. Of course some of Greer's rulings were forced by the bizarre laws passed by the FL legislature at the behest of Felos and the ghouls in Clearwater.

But Greer's bizarre assertion that Terri wanted to be offed based on a truly unlikely conversation witnessed only by Michael.

47 posted on 04/20/2006 2:31:17 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: AZRepublican
These kinds of end-of-life matters do not belong in government

That's right, but they are in the hands of the state.

48 posted on 04/20/2006 2:33:38 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: conserv13
Huh? The judges saw video and heard arguments on her behalf.

Her death sentence was based on the illusion that she was PVS. They tried to bring her PERSONALLY into court to prove she was NOT. What were they afraid of?

49 posted on 04/20/2006 2:33:39 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: EternalVigilance

Did the state take her life?


50 posted on 04/20/2006 2:33:44 PM PDT by conserv13
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