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Russia Wants Proof Iran Nuke Program Isn't Peaceful
Fox News ^ | April 21, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/21/2006 2:53:27 AM PDT by MadIvan

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To: MadIvan

The Russian Foreign Ministry should be informed that any missile fired by Iran at any US ally will be consider as an attack by a Russian client state.


41 posted on 04/21/2006 6:45:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: MadIvan
Russia Wants Proof Iran Nuke Program Isn't Peaceful

Sorry, it don't work that way. As with Saddam, the Iranians must prove they are not trying to create nuclear weapons.

42 posted on 04/21/2006 7:12:54 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: MadIvan

"On the other hand, Iran has specifically spoken aloud about wiping Israel off the map. The President said it, it's on the record, there is no denying it. Given this murderous intent, to allow the tools by which that intent could be achieved is madness."

Iran wants a nuke for one and only one reason. It nullifies Israels nukes which makes a conventional war against Israel a possibility. Without an Iranian nuke, Israel is safe. With a nuke, Israel will have a hard time defending itself against the Arab world, the American left and a Jew Hating EU.

And until Israel realizes this and destroys Irans nuclear capabilities, America will have to come to Israels defense, which will inflame the entire Arab world. I read the playbook.


43 posted on 04/21/2006 7:14:47 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (To Serve Man......It's a cookbook!)
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To: marbren
When Russia and Iran and other allies come against Israel, Watch what God does.

You mean like when God put a stop to the killing in Bergen-Belson, Buckenwald, Dachau, etc.....?

44 posted on 04/21/2006 8:27:36 AM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: djf
I don't trust the Russians or the Chinese and here is why (from my files):

April 30, 2001 - Russian military forces intervened in a mock nuclear conflict between China and the United States over Taiwan during strategic exercises that included Russian preparations to use nuclear weapons on U.S. forces in Asia, The Washington Times has learned.

Russian forces help China in mock conflict

Feb 2002 - China's military is covertly buying U.S. commercial satellite photographs of Taiwan that U.S. intelligence officials say will be used to target the island with the mainland's growing arsenal of cruise and ballistic missiles. Satellite photographs of most of the island are being purchased by China through a South Korean company, U.S. intelligence officials say.

Global Security

Nov 2003 - In a tough statement, the Vice-Minister at Beijing's Taiwan Affairs Office Wang Zaixi said Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian's recent pro-separatist activities had crossed Beijing's "red line" and that they "run the risk of triggering a war" with the mainland. "War will break out if the island declares formal independence," state media on Wednesday quoted Wang as saying.

CNN

July 26, 2004 - About 18,000 Chinese troops using their country's most advanced weapons systems last week rehearsed coordinated air, sea and ground attacks on Dongshan, an island in the South China Sea that resembles Taiwan in terrain and weather.

Washington Post

Feb 7, 2005 - Quietly, with almost no notice taken in the U.S. media, Russia and China have just stepped up their military cooperation to a level not seen in half a century since the end of the Korean War.

Washington Times

Mar 8, 2005 — China unveiled a law Tuesday authorizing an attack if Taiwan moves toward formal independence, increasing pressure on the self-ruled island while warning other countries not to interfere.

ABC News

June 26, 2005 - China is building its military forces faster than U.S. intelligence and military analysts expected, prompting fears that Beijing will attack Taiwan in the next two years, according to Pentagon officials. U.S. defense and intelligence officials say all the signs point in one troubling direction: Beijing then will be forced to go to war with the United States, which has vowed to defend Taiwan against a Chinese attack.

Chinese Dragon Awakens

June 28, 2005 - China's decision to open up massive bomb shelters to the public, ostensibly to provide a respite from summer heat, has U.S. intelligence analysts concerned about a possible strategic deception by Beijing, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. The Chinese specialist agreed with others knowledgeable about nuclear arms that such a maneuver – opening up large fallout shelters to the public on a regular basis would serve two strategic purposes for Beijing: It would familiarize the Chinese people to the shelters, making it easier to evacuate the public in times of potential nuclear attack; It would confuse Western intelligence analysts who monitor movements of the Chinese public by satellite as evidence of the government's intentions; In addition to monitoring missile launches, U.S. national security officials keep an eye on large-scale public movements in countries like China. If, for instance, city residents were seen moving in large numbers into fallout shelters, it would be a sign the government might be preparing for an attack of some kind.

But if such massive movements became routine – because shelters are opened up in the heat of summer and in the cold of winter to provide shelters from the elements – then such movements would more likely be disregarded as militarily insignificant in the West.

"Think about it," said one U.S. intelligence source. "If you were planning, at some point in the future, to launch a pre-emptive first strike on some enemy, wouldn't it make sense to do what the Chinese are doing?"

China activates bomb shelters

Anyone else hear a drum beat?

My thoughts:

Iran and China have signed a 100 billion dollar oil deal and Russia is supplying nuclear assistance to Iran, so they have a vested interest in protecting Iran. I am by no means a financial expert, but according to reports I have read, Russia is attacking the Petro-Dollar system directly, Iran has switched to Euros already and it looks like China is going to follow suit. China, India, Indonesia, South Korea all announced "diversification" away from the US dollar in the past few years, but I think they are just biding their time. Removal of the Petro-Dollar system would have an adverse effect on crude oil prices and could trigger a world bank crisis and possible collapse of the US economy.

So the possible scenario is...Israel attacks Iran and China and Russia retaliate and drop the US dollar into the tank in retribution for our support to Israel. Then it's all out war and there will be no reason for China not to attack Taiwan as well.

Remember the end time predictions:

Russia will march against Israel in fulfillment of Ezekiel 38-39 while China will march against Israel at the very end of the Tribulation Period in fulfillment of Revelation 16:12.

This is definitely a time to stay locked, stocked and loaded.

45 posted on 04/21/2006 8:27:48 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Izzy Dunne
The machining of exotic metals to house weapons grade uranium. The presence of weapons grade uranium or plutonium, and diversion of said materials to warheads, putting the warheads on missiles. There are countless other technical steps for which I as laymen are unaware of but I think building a case that Iran isn't interest in peaceful nuclear research wouldn't be hard. That being said, will the Russians listen or is this about something larger. Namely stopping the spread of American power before it gets to the vary back door of Russia and China.
46 posted on 04/21/2006 8:35:30 AM PDT by Kuehn12 (Kuehn12)
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To: Kuehn12
That being said, will the Russians listen or is this about something larger. Namely stopping the spread of American power before it gets to the vary back door of Russia and China.

An interesting article I found while refreshing my memory on the info I put in post #45:

Iranian Oil Bourse Could Accelerate Uranium Price Rise

47 posted on 04/21/2006 9:33:16 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: MadIvan

I think Russia already knows the answer to that question. I think they are up to thier eyeballs in the mess.


48 posted on 04/21/2006 9:33:41 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: MadIvan

Who cares what "Pooty Poot" says? He burned up his crediablity long ago.


49 posted on 04/21/2006 9:42:42 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: MadIvan

Here is the only proof my cynical mind needs: A country sitting on that much oil doesn't need to develop nuclear energy for "peaceful purposes."


50 posted on 04/21/2006 12:41:51 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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To: djf

I have never trusted the Russians, They will always be oposed to us. Many still blame us for the bad times they've gone through.

As I always say, allies are very temporary. Only when their national interests are the same as ours...and vice versa.


51 posted on 04/21/2006 2:59:38 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (C-17, anywhere, anything, anytime.)
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To: MadIvan
[Russia Wants Proof Iran Nuke Program Isn't Peaceful}

Here Ya go, Vlad:

"Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has openly called for Israel to be wiped off the map.

"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran on Wednesday, entitled The World without Zionism.

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.

"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini."

52 posted on 04/21/2006 5:59:44 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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