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The Five Dumbest Things on Wall Street This Week (NY Slimes is #4)
The Street.com ^ | April 21, 2006

Posted on 04/21/2006 7:30:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Opinion: The Five Dumbest Things on Wall Street This Week

4. Penny Ante The New York Times Co. (NYT:NYSE - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) is feeling the pinch of aggrieved shareholders.

Big investors took a shot across management's bow this week by withholding 28% of votes from the company's board slate. A 5.6% holder, Morgan Stanley Investment Management, wants to eliminate the Class B stock that gives the Sulzberger family control of the board despite its tiny financial stake.

"MSIM believes that the dual-class voting at The New York Times Company, which is an exception to the general rule of one-share, one-vote, creates special privileges as well as responsibilities," the firm says in a Tuesday press release. "MSIM contends that the board and management at The New York Times Company have failed to fulfill these responsibilities effectively."

A look at New York Times' stock performance seems to bear the critics out. Shares of the publisher are down 5% this year and have lost half their value since they peaked in June 2002, as online rivals led by Google (GOOG:Nasdaq - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) and Yahoo! (YHOO:Nasdaq - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) have grabbed more ad dollars. The stock's plunge means that $1,000 worth of Times shares bought five years ago is now worth $610 or so, plus dividends of around $70.

The Times declines to comment on the board voting or on Morgan Stanley's claims. But the company did reach out to shareholders in a gesture that seems characteristically half-baked. On Tuesday afternoon, the Times raised its quarterly dividend by a penny a share, to 17.5 cents.

"We are pleased that in a challenging advertising environment, the company has remained committed to improving shareholder return through annual increases in our dividend," said Chairman Arthur Sulzberger Jr. "We have grown our dividend by a compound annual growth rate of 7.1% over the last five years. These dividend increases reflect our board's confidence in the Company's long-term growth prospects and our financial position."

Sorry, but it's plain to see that no one else shares that confidence.

Dumb-o-Meter score: 82. Sulzberger is looking a bit pound-foolish.

Excerpted. Only #4, the part of the article dealing with the NY Slimes.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arthursulzberger; bigcogwheelturns; blair; dinosaurmsm; jason; jasonblair; nygaytimes; nyt; nytimes; nytimesowner; pinch; sulzberger; sulzbergerfamily
This is interesting as various members of the business media are starting to take some hard shots at these Dino Fish Wrap Users.
1 posted on 04/21/2006 7:30:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: abb; Liz; martin_fierro

Pinch is now looking pound foolish after his right eye got pounded by an angry Bike Messenger.


2 posted on 04/21/2006 7:32:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: george76

fyi.


3 posted on 04/21/2006 7:34:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave

I think they should start a stock buyback program so they'll piss away all their onhand cash...


4 posted on 04/21/2006 7:35:06 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I was required to read The Times for my English class while a sophomore in HS. Haven't read it since. That was in '59!


5 posted on 04/21/2006 7:35:40 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Grampa Dave
That vicious little queer traitor, Pinchy Boy, gets yet another black eye. This one is for his corrupt, utterly incompetent management of the NY Slimes.


6 posted on 04/21/2006 7:40:12 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Morgan Stanley is not pleased to have wasted their money with the NYT stock price cut in half...with the rest of the stock market going up for years.

They should " eliminate the Class B stock that gives the Sulzberger family control of the board despite its tiny financial stake..."

It will not happen, but it should.

The slimes will continue to fall and fail.


7 posted on 04/21/2006 7:41:54 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Grampa Dave
It's amazing how long the Times has been able to avoid being held accountable by their own stockholders for allowing their obvious bias to interfere with their actions.

They've destroyed their reputation for integrity, and they've offended their advertisers and the public.

If it weren't simply for their long history and establised name, they'd have gone bankrupt by now.

The board is being controlled by a minority of the shareholders, and that board is not acting in the interests of the majority of their shareholders. Eventually their going to find out that liberals aren't the only ones that know how to sue.

8 posted on 04/21/2006 7:42:22 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: FormerACLUmember
Your description of Punched Pinch is right on target:

That vicious little queer traitor, Pinchy Boy, gets yet another black eye. This one is for his corrupt, utterly incompetent management of the NY Slimes.


9 posted on 04/21/2006 7:43:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: untrained skeptic

I have another theory on how the Ny Slimes and the other left wing newspapers haven't really been slammed.

The ownership of the stocks of these fishwraps is dominated by retirement funds and mutual funds which are probably managed and controlled by liberals.

These elite limo liberals have no problem of backing up their limos loaded with millions of $'s of their investors and pending retirees, and then dumping millions of those $'s into the financial black holes of the fishwraps. This appears to be a conscious effort to keep these dinosaur fishwraps financially viable as political weapons against Republicans and our country.

What is needed is some lawsuits and some Attorney Generals in conservative states investigating this ponzi game with investment $'s from retirees and owners of mutual funds. Then this BS will stop.


10 posted on 04/21/2006 7:49:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Roccus

The other day I got a call from a NYT salesman asking me to buy a subscription. I told him I didn't want that paper in my driveway let alone in my house, he then told me the times was the most honest paper in the country, to which I replied,'Who told you to say that, Jason Blair?'While he was still sputtering I added,'look fella, why don't you try looking for a job with a reputable company'CLICK!


11 posted on 04/21/2006 7:51:25 AM PDT by Maumee
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To: untrained skeptic

I know - I keep reading excuses related to internet competition, etc. but there is NO MENTION of the inherent bias in so many of the articles I read. I don't think they have a clue.


12 posted on 04/21/2006 7:57:09 AM PDT by mallardx
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To: abb; george76; Liz; LS; Southack

I have all ways felt that there should be an automatic buy back of any corporate stock when the stock value drops below a certain %, with the top dogs and board members leading the way in the buy back.

There has been a movement behind the scenes re requiring mutual fund managers, execs of the mutual fund companies and their board members to own shares of the funds they push on the public. That might eliminate about 90% of the mutual funds and in particuliar funds that invest in crap like the NY Slimes and other dino fish wraps.


13 posted on 04/21/2006 7:57:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave

Have you seen this ?

"MediaNews Group Inc. has offered to buy three Knight Ridder Inc. newspapers in California and one in Minnesota..."

McClatchy currently owns 12 daily papers. The purchase of San Jose-based Knight Ridder, which is expected to close this summer, would increase McClatchy's holdings to 32 papers after it sells the 12 papers in markets that don't fit McClatchy's growth strategy.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/other_business/article/0,2777,DRMN_23916_4638492,00.html


14 posted on 04/21/2006 8:06:02 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Roccus

"I was required to read The Times for my English class while a sophomore in HS. Haven't read it since. That was in '59!"

The NY Slimes is required reading for many of the community colleges in California and some of the state Universities.

One of my neighbors, who is very conservative has had the NY Slimes delivered for over a decade.

Finally one day I asked him why. He said he never read it, but it was required by the local community college for students enrolled full time. He has had 3 children attend the local community college, so the Slimes was delivered at a near give away price. His youngest child is now in a University where the Slimes is not required. My neighbor's driveway is still polluted with the daily delivery of the Slimes and no one is paying for it.

The Slimes magically appears for free at many medical offices and buildings in our area with the San Francisco Gay Rhonicle.

One has to wonder how many of these no charge Slimes are counted as paid subscriptions to Enron the books of the Slimes.


15 posted on 04/21/2006 8:07:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Maumee

They don't call here any more, and that was before the new rules went into effect re telephone solicitation.

This past week, my wife got an offer for a Weekly subscription to the Slimes for under $3/week. There is no way they can afford print the copies up and get them delivered to our driveway for $3/week. So are they using valuable $'s to pony up their so called paid subscription numbers?


16 posted on 04/21/2006 8:11:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: george76

Yes, I have. Media News is a non profit outfit, which buys newspapers and comes in and fires most of the worthless liberals working for the fishwrap.

The liberals in San Jose at the Mercury are in full panic re this possible transaction. They know that they are not qualified to flip burgers or take orders at their local fast foods.


17 posted on 04/21/2006 8:14:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave
I think most newspapers are sold at a "loss" in this manner. The real revenue comes from advertising. Ideally, they'd give the paper away for free, but then the advertisers would have no idea who's actually reading the paper and how much an ad is worth. So they typically charge a modestly small amount, which, moreso than the extra revenue it generates, implies that since someone is paying for it, that they're bothering to actually read it.
18 posted on 04/21/2006 8:16:48 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: Grampa Dave
Golly, I can't imagine why someone would be upset about an outstanding market performance like this...



The Dinosaur Media is dying.  The NYT is simply the Canary in the Coalmine.

If all my investments paid as well as the NYT Stock I would have a whole new career.

Financial Advisor to President Carter.

BTTT

Cheers,

knewshound

Brew Your Own
19 posted on 04/21/2006 8:31:43 AM PDT by knews_hound (When Blogs are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Blogs.)
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To: knews_hound; george76; LS; Liz; martin_fierro; Miss Marple; Mo1; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BIGLOOK
There was apparently a big buy in of NYT stock at the opening bell this morning which drove up the price of the stock. However that increase in NYT and other fishwrap dinosaur stocks appears to be short lived in an up market day.

NYT = Ny Slimes stock, WPO= Washington Compost stock, MNI= McClatchey stock, TRB= Chicago Tribune/LA Slimes Stock

20 posted on 04/21/2006 8:36:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: kevkrom

You are correct re low paying subscribers.

However, when they inflate even these low paying subscribers with phoney #'s, some insiders in some newspaper have been getting charged with fraud by advertisers, getting sued and some of the key fraud people have gotten jail sentences.


21 posted on 04/21/2006 8:39:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: knews_hound

"The Dinosaur Media is dying. The NYT is simply the Canary in the Coalmine.

If all my investments paid as well as the NYT Stock I would have a whole new career.

Financial Advisor to President Carter.

BTTT

Cheers,

knewshound"

Now we are seeing other members of the media go after the NY Slimes. That may well make the Ny Slimes the first canary in the dangerous fish wrap mine.


22 posted on 04/21/2006 8:41:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave

Sinking readership and revenue, because of biased and mediocre reporting, is finally taking its toll ...

23 posted on 04/21/2006 8:52:59 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Grampa Dave

I use to like the NYTs; its overly bloated format was the best paper to buy or borrow when you needed some pulp to use as packing material. Pound for pound it was a bargan. It also worked great as cage liner. It looks like it has gotten a bit thinner over the years; fortunately, I have since moved on to bubble wrap.


24 posted on 04/21/2006 8:57:57 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: george76

I agree, the pulp media bias is killing them. For years they have been slanting the news and calling it balanced reporting. Yet, when they receive 10 conservative letters to the editor and 1 liberal, they print 1 con. and 1 lib.


25 posted on 04/21/2006 9:15:59 AM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: Grampa Dave

"What is needed is some lawsuits and some Attorney Generals in conservative states investigating this ponzi game with investment $'s from retirees and owners of mutual funds."

We'll have King, coho and sockeye salmon in the Great Salt Lake before that happens.


26 posted on 04/21/2006 9:21:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: B4Ranch

Actually, I think that we will see some lawsuits. They will not happen in the Blue States.


27 posted on 04/21/2006 9:22:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: knews_hound

Anyone who continues to hold on to NYT stock must be doing so out of compassion or for sentimental reasons.

Institutional investors, who have not divested their portfolios of NYT shares, risk lawsuits from displeased participants.


28 posted on 04/21/2006 9:26:34 AM PDT by demoRat watcher (Keeper of the Anthropocentrism Ping List)
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To: Grampa Dave
The Times declines to comment on the board voting or on Morgan Stanley's claims. But the company did reach out to shareholders in a gesture that seems characteristically half-baked. On Tuesday afternoon, the Times raised its quarterly dividend by a penny a share, to 17.5 cents.

Looks like Pinch will have to break out the Moose head, hand puppet to calm things down during these troubling times.

29 posted on 04/21/2006 9:37:03 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Grampa Dave

I'll wait until they start before I get the salmon rigs off the top shelf.


30 posted on 04/21/2006 9:41:40 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: demoRat watcher
Contrast and compare...

The Dow for the last 2 years versus the NYT.



Oh yeah, there is a winning stock pick. / sarc

You are entirely correct.  Any financial manager that continues to hold this sinking ship does so at their peril.

Thankfully, I manage my own portfolio.

Cheers,

knewshound
31 posted on 04/21/2006 9:52:54 AM PDT by knews_hound (When Blogs are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Blogs.)
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To: knews_hound; B4Ranch
The comparison gets even worse when you add two everyday indexes for the common folk, SPY/S&P 500 and one of my favorites, MDY/Midcap Index.

B4 ranch, this is the ammo that might end up in some big time class actions suits against Mutual Fund Managers, who plowed investor $'s into the Ny Slimes turkey, of course not in the Blue States.

32 posted on 04/21/2006 10:03:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave

I invest in mutual funds very heavily and I have a list provided by the various fund managers of every company and the percentge amount that the particular fund is invested into each company.

There are many funds that I will not participate in because I strongly disagree with the company owner/leadership political or charity contributions.

I see this as just common sense investing that it is MY responsibility to be aware of where I am putting MY money and who I choose to support or not support. It is MY responsibility to analyze MY portfolio.

I refuse to stand in line with politically motivated elite limo liberal management groups whose intentions are to further Muslim and/or Communist goals to crush individual liberty. Decimating what America stands for isn't something I will do to increase my financial assets.


33 posted on 04/21/2006 10:32:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: B4Ranch

I'm in total agreement with you.

However, you and I are retired and have the time to checkout what stocks Mutual Funds own. A lot of people don't have that time and others don't know of a quick and easy way to find out what stocks their mutual funds own.

I posted a thread to help Freepers to determine stock ownership by their mutual funds:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1598732/posts

If your mutual funds own newspaper stock, you may have a problem
self, moneycentral.msn.com | 18 March 2006 | Grampa Dave


Posted on 03/18/2006 8:33:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave


To Jim Robinson, admin moderator, please excuse this vanity.

This is the only way of warning Freepers that their mutual funds may be invested in stocks of our enemies and real potential losers, the stocks of the lying, spinning and probable dinosaur fishwraps or newspapers.

Since, GW was re elected, the stock values of many of the major lying/spinning fishwraps have been falling like a rock dropped in a ocean.

This past week has been a very bad week for many newspaper stocks with the reports of less subscribers and the NYT and TRB may have their bond rating lowered by Moody's.

Most Freepers would never knowingly invest in the stock of these left wing enemies. However, many of these left wing fishwraps appear to massively owned by institutions and mutual funds. These mutual funds are probably holding up the value of the Enron type newspapers with the precious $'s from their investors.

Often these mutual funds are in our IRAs or 401K's or similiar deferred savings or in college funds for our children and grandchildren. Investing in these dinosaurs probably presents a clear present danger to our precious investment $s.

The links below will take us to MSN's money central for NYT, TRB and WPO, the NY Slimes, LA Slimes/Chicago Tribune and Compost. Once there you can see the institutional and mutual fund ownership of each dinosaur fishwrap.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp?Symbol=nyt

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp?Symbol=trb

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp?Symbol=WPO

The above links will work for any company, just delete the 3 letter stock symbol at the end and enter the stock code for the stock/stocks you are interested in.


34 posted on 04/21/2006 11:08:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave

"However, you and I are retired and have the time to checkout what stocks Mutual Funds own."

All it takes is caring enough about America to make sure you aren't helping our enemies. Just remember to ask the simple question, "What companies is this fund invested in?"

The broker will generally try to give you a list of the top 20 companies percentage wise, but ask for the complete list down to the .001%.

Divide the percentage into the fund value and you will have the dollar amount. I automatically receive these lists every quarter just for asking.


35 posted on 04/21/2006 11:15:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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