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Feinstein insists U.S. not bound to protect Taiwan
Mercury News ^ | 4/20/06 | K. Oanh Ha

Posted on 04/21/2006 3:18:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

In remarks certain to please visiting Chinese President Hu Jintao, U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein on Thursday told a gathering of Chinese-American business and cultural leaders in San Francisco that the United States has no obligation to defend Taiwan if it provokes China into a military confrontation.

Feinstein's comments came on a day when Hu and President Bush sat down together in Washington to discuss a range of issues -- including Taiwan, which China regards as the No. 1 issue in U.S.-China relations. Before his first U.S. visit this week, Hu urged Taiwanese leaders to resume talks with China and called actions toward independence a threat to the region.

``It is important to point out a common misconception -- nowhere does the TRA explicitly require the U.S. to go to war with the mainland over Taiwan,'' Feinstein said, referring to the Taiwan Relations Act, at the annual conference of the Committee of 100 in San Francisco. The group helps foster U.S.-China relations.

The act, passed by the U.S. Congress in 1979, is the foundation of U.S.-Taiwan relations. Some supporters of Taiwan assume the United States is legally bound to defend the island, but the United States' obligation to Taiwan has increasingly become a point of contention as Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian has promoted Taiwan independence. His provocations have irked the Bush administration and caused tensions in U.S.-Taiwan relations.

China claims Taiwan as part of its territory. Since 1979, the United States has acknowledged China's ``one-China'' policy and recognizes Beijing as the legitimate government of all China.

Feinstein isn't the first U.S. official to assert that the United States isn't legally bound to defend Taiwan, but her comments are certain to cause ripples. Bush had pledged in 2001 that the ``U.S. will do whatever it takes to defend Taiwan.''

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 109th; china; chineseamericans; difi; feinstein; hu; huvisit; richardblum; taiwan
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The US is not obligated to defend Taiwan if it provokes China..

Soon to be re-elected Empress Senator DiChiFi has spoken,, and the Ca GOP whimpers about its current state of impotency as it does next to nothing to field a candidate.

1 posted on 04/21/2006 3:18:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Define "provokes" or is it a "living and breathing" definition? ;-)


2 posted on 04/21/2006 3:19:57 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: NormsRevenge

One Communist to another...


3 posted on 04/21/2006 3:20:08 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: Mikey_1962

coming from someone who won't even defend our own borders. I'm not surprised.


4 posted on 04/21/2006 3:21:10 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (they love you in Mexico until you pay in pesos.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Your right, the republicans in california do not even try to field a good candidate to upset the Di fi, and one needs to remember a good bulk of her husbands wealth is with his investments in Communist China..


5 posted on 04/21/2006 3:21:54 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: NormsRevenge

Feinstein should be bound and gagged.


6 posted on 04/21/2006 3:21:58 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: NormsRevenge

Doesn't her husband have lots of $$ tied up in deals in the PRC?


7 posted on 04/21/2006 3:22:06 PM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: NormsRevenge

Talk about undermining our position in Asia! But then again, if memory serves, Feinstein is heavily invested/influenced by Red China, no?


8 posted on 04/21/2006 3:23:04 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: NormsRevenge

Ah, with "friends" like Diane, who needs enemas.

No doubt she felt this way about Vietnam too.


9 posted on 04/21/2006 3:23:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Or Japan or California.


10 posted on 04/21/2006 3:24:42 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Paleo Conservative

I gag every time this fool Feinstein opens her mouth.


11 posted on 04/21/2006 3:25:06 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation
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To: NormsRevenge
We all know or should know that she ahs business interests there.
Aside from that, unless she's president, what do we care what she thinks?
12 posted on 04/21/2006 3:25:08 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: airedale

Richard Blum, Di's hubby, has done very well over the years, China deals notwithstanding. He sits on the Ca Board of Regents as well.


13 posted on 04/21/2006 3:25:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

Then I hope that the Chinese there field and fund someone and then rouse up the people to oust her.


14 posted on 04/21/2006 3:26:08 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: NormsRevenge

Red meat for Michael Savage.


15 posted on 04/21/2006 3:28:45 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: NormsRevenge

What the hell is wrong with the USA? Why are both Republicans and Democrats doing the kowtow to the President of china like we are some kind of vassal state?


16 posted on 04/21/2006 3:28:53 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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To: NormsRevenge
>>United States has no obligation to defend Taiwan if it provokes China into a military confrontation<<

I'll have to check but I'm pretty sure that is also official U.S. policy - this is how we pressure then to not declare Independence, I believe.
17 posted on 04/21/2006 3:30:17 PM PDT by gondramB (You can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs - Country music saying)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sure is different that what I was taught all the way back to grade school.


18 posted on 04/21/2006 3:31:55 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: NormsRevenge

How much of her opinion is influenced by her husband's foreign business deals?


19 posted on 04/21/2006 3:32:09 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: NormsRevenge
I thought we were obligated to defend Taiwan from China. What changed?? If you remember, during the early days of the Bush Admin., DiFi bullied her way into a diplomatic crisis. When that little jet hit our huge surveillance plane and their pilot was killed and our plane had to land over there, Bush would not apologize. Our men and women were held for 10 days, I think. It was the little jet's fault but DiFi 'apologized for America' because she didn't want her husband's business interests to suffer.
20 posted on 04/21/2006 3:32:12 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: NormsRevenge
How long has it been since US troops died for anything but to strengthen, promote and spread Islam?
21 posted on 04/21/2006 3:32:45 PM PDT by isrul
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To: NormsRevenge

Bush insists US not bound to protect San Francisco.


22 posted on 04/21/2006 3:33:16 PM PDT by Hexenhammer ( Oregon: She dies by her own prescriptions)
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To: All
"What the hell is wrong with the USA? Why are both Republicans and Democrats doing the kowtow to the President of china like we are some kind of vassal state?"

Maybe his agents have oodles of compromising photos of them or perhaps they are bought and paid for. Some might just envy China's form of government.


23 posted on 04/21/2006 3:34:39 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: gondramB
A lady with whom I work said that yesterday Bush declared that Taiwan was a part of China. I was shocked. I thought we had pledged our support to the Taiwanese against Chinese aggression.
24 posted on 04/21/2006 3:34:53 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Ben Chad

Red meat for Michael Savage.


Not today, he's off again.. encore broadcast .. again. ;-)


25 posted on 04/21/2006 3:37:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: airedale

Yes. Her hubby is a big wheeler dealer with the ChiComs, AND is a major funder of the Brookings Institute.


26 posted on 04/21/2006 3:37:32 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NormsRevenge

Does CA have any credible candidates for that race? The GOP has, for years, neglected any candidate development efforts. Mehlman is changing that, but it will take years.


27 posted on 04/21/2006 3:41:30 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: NormsRevenge
Good Lord. Taiwan is a Democracy for goodness sake. The very fact that Taiwan breathes is provocation to China. How lubricious and dangerous these comments are.
28 posted on 04/21/2006 3:43:35 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: NormsRevenge

And Feinstein is the Foreign Minister of what country?? Oh, yeah ... I forgot! She's pitching for Foreign Minister of the Territorio Norteno!


29 posted on 04/21/2006 3:44:41 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: originalbuckeye
Bush has said he doesn't want to upset the "status quo". http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105239,00.html
"The United States policy is one China," Bush said after a 40-minute Oval Office meeting with mainland Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao.

30 posted on 04/21/2006 3:45:13 PM PDT by Third Order
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To: gondramB
I think you're right about that.

Although the U.S. didn't have any obligation to defend Kuwait or Saudi Arabia, either -- but that didn't stop us from putting the lives of U.S. military personnel at risk to restore one royal family to a throne in Kuwait and keep another one on a throne in Saudi Arabia.

Someone please wake me up when any of this starts to make sense.

31 posted on 04/21/2006 3:46:14 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: NormsRevenge

You'd think this would cost her some votes considering the large Chinese population in SF and the rest of CA.


32 posted on 04/21/2006 3:46:21 PM PDT by Third Order
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To: originalbuckeye
A lady with whom I work said that yesterday Bush declared that Taiwan was a part of China. I was shocked. I thought we had pledged our support to the Taiwanese against Chinese aggression.

Thanks for keeping that infinitive together, but this is the first I've heard of anything of the kind. I need some more definitive authority before I belive that the President has signed on to the "One China" policy.

33 posted on 04/21/2006 3:46:28 PM PDT by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)
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To: speekinout

Credible .. Yes, recognizable .. No.

The Cubans GOP farm team is stronger in candidates than the Ca GOP. Of course, they are in Florida.. which doesn't help much either.


34 posted on 04/21/2006 3:46:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: originalbuckeye

>>A lady with whom I work said that yesterday Bush declared that Taiwan was a part of China. I was shocked. I thought we had pledged our support to the Taiwanese against Chinese aggression.<<

I believe you are both correct. We subscribe to the One China policy that includes Taiwan but we have the Taiwan Relations act where we condition continuing diplomatic relations with China on them not attacking China.

Here is what looks like the key part

>>(3) to make clear that the United States decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means;

(4) to consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States;

(5) to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character; and

(6) to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan.<<

http://usinfo.state.gov/eap/Archive_Index/Taiwan_Relations_Act.html


35 posted on 04/21/2006 3:48:05 PM PDT by gondramB (You can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs - Country music saying)
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To: Rakkasan1
coming from someone who won't even defend our own borders -borders, hell her city council doesn't want my city defended!
36 posted on 04/21/2006 3:49:52 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Alberta's Child

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(4) to consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States;<<

Well, the Taiwan relations act does contain this threat but apparently we interpret this as saying it doesn't apply if Taiwan provokes the attack.


37 posted on 04/21/2006 3:49:54 PM PDT by gondramB (You can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs - Country music saying)
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To: gondramB; originalbuckeye

Well, I learned something today. Apologies originalbuckeye. But I must say I'm not happy with this compromise. "Grave concern" my ass.


38 posted on 04/21/2006 3:54:53 PM PDT by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)
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To: NormsRevenge

Taiwan is a US Territory. The US may elect to defend it or to sell it or grant it statehood.


39 posted on 04/21/2006 3:57:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: NormsRevenge
What happens when Democrats undercut U.S. Security guarantees:


40 posted on 04/21/2006 3:57:32 PM PDT by Plutarch
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... the United States has no obligation to defend Taiwan if it provokes China into a military confrontation.

What a filthy slime bag of a hag!

Why are ALL DemocRAT women either ugly, stupid or traitorous?

41 posted on 04/21/2006 3:59:31 PM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: FerdieMurphy
I'd rather protect Taiwan than San Franfreko.
42 posted on 04/21/2006 4:02:03 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: NormsRevenge

I understand her husband has business interests there?
Of course, that has no impact on her policy, I'm sure.


43 posted on 04/21/2006 4:03:33 PM PDT by bordergal
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To: rhombus
Define "provokes"

"Exists". It's the same with Israel.

44 posted on 04/21/2006 4:05:53 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: SF Republican

She rode to national fame on the basis of an assassination. Before Moscone was killed, she couldn't get elected mayor. Came very very close to being recalled a few years after her "ascension." I never understood how either she or Boxer had statewide appeal, but then I forgot that whole "Year of the Woman crap they foisted on us that got them entrenched.


45 posted on 04/21/2006 4:08:51 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Conservatives know the names of Tookie's VICTIMS!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
ChiFi: The US is not obligated to defend Taiwan if it provokes China..

Translation: The US is not obligated to defend Taiwan if it in any way depreciates Richard Blum's (her hubby) investments in China.

Senator Feinstein, you belong in jail!

46 posted on 04/21/2006 4:11:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: NormsRevenge
DiFI is only protecting the family investments in China. Since when does a US Senator set American foreign policy? Get her off the stage.
47 posted on 04/21/2006 4:11:52 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: NormsRevenge

No conflict of interest ... "oh hubby! Their attacking your masters again... shall I issue the appropriate propaganda?" Sheesh! Frankenfeinstein in top form.


48 posted on 04/21/2006 4:17:29 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Centurion2000
What the hell is wrong with the USA?

What are you willing to do?

Will you volunteer for our military and spend the next few years in Taiwan?

Would you be willing to spend a whole lot more in taxes to pay other people to do it?

Or will you just type stuff on a message board?

49 posted on 04/21/2006 4:24:39 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: FerdieMurphy

My perrenial question: why is she (and her ilk) walking around?


50 posted on 04/21/2006 4:28:25 PM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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