Not to mention "we the people".
Unfortunately most are protected by civil service as they are career employees.
Posted on 04/22/2006 6:32:17 AM PDT by Andy5000
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Central Intelligence Agency warned US President George W. Bush before the Iraq war that it had reliable information the government of Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, a retired CIA operative disclosed.
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Must be the recently retired (fired) CIA agent who was leaking stuff to the Washington Post.
Bush is paying a high price in not completly purging the CIA and Defense of Clinton rump swabs..
I have never seen such a concerted effort to destroy any President in my lifetime!
Not to mention "we the people".
Unfortunately most are protected by civil service as they are career employees.
Richard Clarke, muddying the water to distract from or at least crossfire the recent CIA firing, his co-fellow at CSIS.
And of course, based on the CIA's stellar record, GWB should have taken the information on faith. Yeah, despite all the other infromation to the contrary, watching the sanctions start to unravel through the duplicity of certain "allies," GWB should gamble the safety of the nation in a post-Sept. 11 world because one report of many said, "nope, no weapons."
Idiots!
I suppose that's why the CIA director at the time said it was a "slam dunk"...
The CIA?
You mean the same bunch that was leaking secret information in an attempt to undermine Bush?
MSM payback for Bush destroying one of their inside sources.
Nice pic they put with the story. MSM...blech!
Retired CIA operative? That could be anyone.
The Clintonistas in the CIA are smarting a bit from yesterday's firing, and hoping to mitigate the damage. Since we know what they're up to, I doubt every word out of their treasonous mouths.
Well, of course not. In the 14 months we wasted trying to get the UN to go along what weaponry that wasn't buried in the Iraqi desert was moved to Syria and Lebanon and buried. The Iraqi nuke scientists/program were moved to Libya, until Qadafy dropped dime on them and ratted them out.
Jeez, don't these guys pay attention?
Yeah, but in this case the guy is named in the article.
Nice try, no cigar.
I wouldn't be surprised. The media has used unnamed contacts in the CIA far too often.
These people are all about themselves and the administration that they loved so much Clinton/Burgler.
Secondly, this is the last straw for me: seriously. The entire CIA needs to be defunded and disbanded as a government agency and rebuilt as a new agency from the ground up.
Not everyone in the agency is worthless but the number of leaks, dissemination of information, and sheer incompetence shown by the agency over the last several years has become a high enough percentage to convince me that it is no longer functioning as it was intended.
When we captured Saddam Hussein, we found the WMD.
geez... these folks drive me nuts...
Even if, hypothetically, we were 100% absolutely positive at that moment there were no WMDs in Iraq that would have been...
IRRELEVENT
As the President clearly spelled out in advance we weren't going over there to stop an imminent threat... we went to prevent.
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Anytime I hear or read a sentence like the one above, I just yawn. The tone is so blatantly, obviously political that it should be ignored. How many times does one have to know for a fact from the IAEA that Iraq had "X" amount of WMD's in the 90's and destroyed "Y" amount of them, with the difference yielding a positive number.
Oh, did they tell Bush those long lines of trucks headed for Syria in the weeks before we attacked held WMD's, so no problem? What about gassing hundreds of thousands of Kurds? That wasn't evidence of WMD's? Who's kidding who?
Bingo!
CBS is trying to sell this as new information. Do a quick search on the CIA proponent. He's been shopping this story around for a long time.
"I have never seen such a concerted effort to destroy any President in my lifetime!"
I agree with you but I think its going to fail too.
That the CIA said there were no WMD should have been enough to convince Bush that Iraq did have WMD.
The CIA's record for accuracy is shaky.
Qadafy dropping a dime that the Iraqi nuke scientists/program was moved to Libya in the runup to the war won't come up on CBS Sunday morning. Not a peep.
MSM payback for Bush destroying one of their inside sources.
Exactly.......they are going to try to make this firing sound like she was fired because she tried to warn this Admin....
Most of us here know the facts but the everyday joe just listens and believes everything they are told. I hate to be the "doom and gloom" person but I cant help acknowledging that the forces agains this President and his administration are so strong I think he is losing this battle. He has lost his will and way to fight. Im sad that his "up yours" attitude is completely gone. He is not fighting anymore guys. (At least I dont see it) Can someone help me out of my funk??????
"MSM payback for Bush destroying one of their inside sources."
BINGO.
Look for the MSM to really crank up the propaganda machine now.
Argh. Cant spell this morning. Sorry
Yup, just another case of somebody trying take 5 minutes of fame and vault it into a profitable career. MSM likes folks that will say anything for fame.
But the truth isn't whats important to the MSM, the "story" is, and they are all reading from the same script. Its part of the groupthink that envelopes the MSM, a culture they don't even understand exists, because once immersed, it is self reinforcing. It wouldn't be so bad if they could at least admit it to themselves, but no, they hold themselves up as that paragons of virtue and truth....
Well, duh! All decision makers, from the guy who runs the local hardware store, all the way up to the President of The United States use information selectively. If all of the information is consistent, and paints the same picture, there won't be much for the decision maker to do. His job is to take intelligence that sometimes conflicts with other intelligence, and, by golly, select the more credible evidence and then act accordingly.
Far be it from the drive-by media to note that the intelligence which Bush did select, which indicated that Saddam had WMDs, was the same evidence that most of the world had, and which virtually everyone, including Bill Clinton, John Kerry and the rest of the democrat hierarchy, believed.
Another point, which is, to me, the most sorely-neglected fact relating to the run-up to the war, is that the onus was on Saddam to prove that he had disposed of the WMDs which he previously admitted that he had (some of which he had used on the Kurds, on the marsh Arabs, and on Iran.) He never produced a satisfactory accounting of what he had done with these weapons. The only safe course for the world to pursue was to believe he still had them, which the world did believe. The fact that only The United States and a few true allies had the guts to act on this does not detract from the fact that Saddam was not in compliance with U.N. Resolution 1441. That the French, Russians, and most of the world (including many top U.N. officials) were enjoying huge monetary benefits from the fraud-ridden Oil for Food program does not mean that Bush, Blair, et al were in the wrong. Au contraire.
Drumheller is not the recently fired CIA analyst. Her name was Mary O. McCarthy.
Aren't there laws against things like slander? If I wrote something that was a lie and published it, couldn't I have sometype of legal action or criminal action taken against me?
It's his staff or some one in congress won't even take the time to look at The growing file of Saddam's Records that are being translated by Freeper 'jveritas'.
And we have. See FR keyword WARLIST and now, also see PreWarDocs
Clearly those who put forward the "problematic" scenario were right. Would that George W. Bush had had the foresight to understand what he was getting himself into, but foresight is not his forte.
A politicized intelligence agency is what is worthless. The president - any president - needs the most accurate information he can get to make the proper decisions.
You bet. W should've cleaned house upon arrival. His first mistake was not taking his enemies seriously.
You'll like this...
Guess who has a book coming out? Tyler Drumheller. "On the Brink : How the White House Has Compromised American Intelligence (Hardcover)"
We can preorder it though. Imagine that.
Sigh.
How can you say this was a problematic scenario? There were WMD. See FR keywords WARLIST and PreWarDocs. They are all posted here.
"The White House had embraced a British report that Iraq had purchased 500 tons of uranium from the African nation of Niger, allegedly to restart its nuclear weapons program."
No, the British claimed that Iraq had shown an interest in buying uranium, that's all that Bush put forth.
Facts are dangerous things.
Yea, just did a google search on Tyler Drumheller and found all kinds of articles.
Oh, brother. It just never stops, does it? It almost scares me just what lengths they will go to lie and undermine the government.
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