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Medical Students To Urge Legislators to Ban Bulk Sales of Handguns
US Newswire (Press Release) ^ | 4/21/06 | n/a

Posted on 04/22/2006 9:22:54 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

Medical Students Traveling to Harrisburg, Pa. to Urge State Legislators to Pass Bill Banning Bulk Sales of Handguns

4/21/2006 3:18:00 PM

To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor

Contact: Diane Edbril, 215-923-3151, or Peter Hamm, 202-898-5792, both for the Pennsylvanians Against Trafficking Handguns Coalition

News Advisory:

A group of Philadelphia area medical students are coming to the State Capitol Monday, April 24 to visit legislators and urge them to take action on a bill that would restrict sales of multiple handguns. Such multiple sales have been identified by law enforcement experts as a sign of illegal gun trafficking.

"As physicians in training, we are directly confronted by the results of handgun violence and are deeply concerned about the health of our patients," explained student Rachael Truchil. "The tragic results of gun shot wounds are evident. We would rather focus our efforts on prevention of the injury, than unsuccessful attempts to repair the injury."

The medical students, from the Temple University School of Medicine, Drexel University College of Medicine and the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, will be available for comment in the Capitol Rotunda at 11 a.m., where a gathering is planned to mark Victim's Rights Week.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; billofrights; bradywatch; constitutionlist; libertarians

1 posted on 04/22/2006 9:22:58 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

They should ban the bulk sale of cigarettes also. Twenty in a pack is outrageous.


2 posted on 04/22/2006 9:24:55 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"Bulk" sales = 2 handguns or more.

(Could someone please post the doctors vs. guns calculation? And send a copy to these students?)


3 posted on 04/22/2006 9:26:24 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

So what's the definition of "bulk" gun sales? The statement made moved from that word to "multiple".... Does that mean Mr. Joe who shoots ITPA and decides it's time for a couple of new guns for his shooting - and wants to buy two at the same time, that would be "bulk"???

Liberals love to use language against us..... In this case, they are trying to make it sound like folks are buying van-loads of handguns....but watch out, they already let slip that it's just "multiple" hangun purchases they are trying to stop. Next will be multiple within a time window...a day, week, month, year, decade, lifetime? Where does it end?


4 posted on 04/22/2006 9:27:31 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Wet behind the ears liberals who think they have seen the world already. A little education is a dangerous thing.

Why dont you wait until you have lived long enough to form your own opinion instaed of barking for you liberal instructors.


5 posted on 04/22/2006 9:28:24 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: P-40

Apparently the study of medicine and the study of the Bill of Rights are incompatible.


6 posted on 04/22/2006 9:28:31 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: kiriath_jearim

Imagine its 1812 and the British are capturing American civilians and forcing them to serve in the British Navy


1st Seaman: Run to hold and get the muskets, they are boarding

2nd seaman: We've only got one musket

1st Seaman: WTF?

2nd Seaman: Some medical students said we shouldn't ever buy more than one gun.


7 posted on 04/22/2006 9:29:03 AM PDT by gondramB (You can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs - Country music saying)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I am relieved to see that "law enforcement authorities" have determined how many handguns I can buy at one time without being sucked into the nefarious world of gun running! I really worry about that a lot. Why won't the gubment save me from my darkest impulses???? Why why why?
8 posted on 04/22/2006 9:29:06 AM PDT by DariusBane (I do not separate people, as do the narrow-minded, into Greeks and barbarians.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
To doctors in training: stick to learning how to practice medicine. Leave the rest of us TF alone.
9 posted on 04/22/2006 9:29:31 AM PDT by glockmeister40
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To: kiriath_jearim

Gonna be hard on Police Departments to do a sidearm replacemet program at the rate of one gun a month.


10 posted on 04/22/2006 9:29:31 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain)
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To: kiriath_jearim


How many people died for the 2nd Amendment?

You know, the American Revolution began when the British tried to seize the Colonist's guns.

Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.


11 posted on 04/22/2006 9:29:35 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I seem to recall that deaths due to malpractice far exceeds gun deaths. I'll go look for the stats


12 posted on 04/22/2006 9:30:10 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: kiriath_jearim
will be available for comment in the Capitol Rotunda at 11 a.m., where a gathering is planned to mark Victim's Rights Week

They pretty much just posted a neon sign to all armed crack addicts that a bunch of extremely rich unarmed people are going to be gathering in mass with no way to defend them selves if someone who has no money wants to take all thiers

13 posted on 04/22/2006 9:30:21 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: traviskicks; Travis McGee; DaveLoneRanger; Mr. Mojo; Joe Brower

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14 posted on 04/22/2006 9:31:35 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I hope these students have fun looking for jobs in PA. Per another FR thread PA is losing physicians by the thousands.


15 posted on 04/22/2006 9:31:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remove card rapidly)
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To: kiriath_jearim

IIRC, doctors kill Americans three times more often than do firearms. We should ban medical students instead.


16 posted on 04/22/2006 9:31:58 AM PDT by Redcloak (Messing up perfectly good threads since 1998.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Physicians kill more people than do handguns.


17 posted on 04/22/2006 9:32:43 AM PDT by 4U2OUI (OK.)
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To: SauronOfMordor; coloradan
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18 posted on 04/22/2006 9:36:06 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.


19 posted on 04/22/2006 9:43:43 AM PDT by umgud (12 gauge, the original pepper spray)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"As physicians in training, we are directly confronted by the results of handgun violence ..."

Not nice and tidy, like shotgun wounds.

20 posted on 04/22/2006 9:48:09 AM PDT by dighton
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To: kiriath_jearim
Wonder how many of these followers of Hippocrates will wind up performing multiple abortions [based on a most threadbare Constitutional rationale, as opposed to the 2nd Amendment] with a pristine conscience? Bet they'll kill more people in a day than I have in my life [zero, and I've owned guns for thirty years, and handled them a lot longer], and never see the contradiction, or their own hypocrisy.
21 posted on 04/22/2006 9:51:37 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"As physicians in training, we are directly confronted by the results of handgun violence..."

Seems to me if the idiots are really concerned about violence, that they would want to ban it no matter the type of weapon employed. Perhaps they would not look to be such fools if they would announce they were searching for a cure for human greed.

22 posted on 04/22/2006 9:54:09 AM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
As physicians in training, we are directly confronted by the results of handgun violence and are deeply concerned about the health of our patients

Doesn't sound like they are too concerned about their 'patient's' ability to protect themselves. Stick to subjects you know about doc, like doling out aspirin. Incidentally, you should learn someone is not a patient until they ask for your advice.

23 posted on 04/22/2006 10:03:02 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SauronOfMordor

This came to me via email...

Doctors:

(A) The number of medical doctors in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 17.14%.

Statistics courtesy of the U.S.Dept of Health & Human Services



Guns:

(A) The number of gun owners in the US is 80,000,000 (yes, that's 80 million).
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.001875%.

Statistics courtesy of the FBI



So statistically, medical doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.


Remember, guns don't kill people, doctors do.


FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE MEDICAL DOCTOR.


Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban medical doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!


Out of concern for the public at large, I have withheld statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical
attention.


24 posted on 04/22/2006 10:13:30 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Biting the hand that feeds them.


25 posted on 04/22/2006 10:19:12 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: kiriath_jearim
they should just stick to practicing medicine instead of being a part of the BRady Nut Bunch.

However as I've observed for many years; after doing their residency they move from practising Medicine to becoming businessmen and just watching & protecting the Profit$$$

26 posted on 04/22/2006 10:39:13 AM PDT by prophetic
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To: prophetic

A law banning the sale of multiple scalpels is clearly required. Any doctor who purchases multiple scalpels must be planning to sell them to criminals who will use them to stab people. Maybe the doctors are even planning to stab people themselves.


27 posted on 04/22/2006 10:56:49 AM PDT by Mini-14
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To: kiriath_jearim
What these boneheads don't seem to realize is that the sale of multiple handguns has been restricted for many years. I know for a fact, that it goes back to at least 1988. When you purchase multiple handguns from a legal dealer, that dealer must notify the government with a special form. I only became aware of this when I happened to buy 3 handguns on the same day, at the same dealer, and the dealer accidentally misaddressed the envelope, and sent to form to me, rather than the proper government agency.

Mark

28 posted on 04/22/2006 11:00:26 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Not all bullet wounds are bad things. As we say here in Texas, "Some folks just need shootin'"!

I must admit, though, that it is too bad that these folks have to treat wounded ones...

Reduce the number of criminals -- and leave our constitutionally-protected arms alone!

29 posted on 04/22/2006 11:01:25 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
explained student Rachael Truchil. "The tragic results of gun shot wounds are evident. We would rather focus our efforts on prevention of the injury, than unsuccessful attempts to repair the injury."

in other words: "We would rather infringe on the rights of many than have to work for a living"

30 posted on 04/22/2006 11:06:36 AM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
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To: MarkL

I bought two 38 specials last week in one purchase. Two 380s in one purchase in March. Two 22 rifles and a shotgun in one purchase, back in August.
I'm in Texas, never heard of such a form or requirement here.


31 posted on 04/22/2006 11:09:40 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

The only proper response to this is for we gun owners to urge legislators to allow us to provide medical treatment! Fair's fair, after all.


32 posted on 04/22/2006 11:58:42 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: lrb111
Multiple handgun sales are supposed to be recorded by the selling dealer and reported on a Form 3310.4 by the second day after the sale.

If your dealer failed to do that, well, he f'ed up.

33 posted on 04/22/2006 12:08:46 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: kiriath_jearim

Last time I looked at statistics the pills they are training to push kill more people than the guns about which they are complaining.

Iatragonic (doctor caused) death in America is the third leading cause of death. Cancer or Heart was number one.


34 posted on 04/22/2006 1:45:40 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: freepatriot32; neverdem; albertp; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; ...
Good intentions gone awry again....





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35 posted on 04/22/2006 2:02:41 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

do you have a link to that other thread by any chance? no biggie if it was too long ago.


36 posted on 04/22/2006 2:08:31 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: kiriath_jearim

What is a "bulk sale" of handguns?

Fifty or more bought at one time?


37 posted on 04/22/2006 3:01:10 PM PDT by Supernatural (When they come a wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: Supernatural

2 or more.


38 posted on 04/22/2006 4:00:38 PM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: King Prout

"focus on the prevention of the injury, rather than unsuccessful attempts to repair the injury.."

WHAT?!!!

Then go into social work you Maroons!

If you are in med school...do us all a big favor, try to get educated better so you don't kill us when you practice medicine!


39 posted on 04/22/2006 4:02:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Illegal Aliens....STFU!)
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To: coloradan

Two of anything should not meet anyone's definition of "bulk".


40 posted on 04/22/2006 4:09:29 PM PDT by Supernatural (When they come a wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: Supernatural

Anyone but a gun grabber, that is.


41 posted on 04/22/2006 4:10:28 PM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: lrb111
RE: Multiple Handgun sales registration

I'm in Texas, never heard of such a form or requirement here.

Since it had been so long, I thought that maybe it was just a state requirement of MO, so I did some checking, and that's when I found this:

In the United States, the first regulations on multiple handgun purchases appeared after enactment of the Gun Control Act of 1968. Although the Act itself said nothing about multiple purchases, the new Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) created regulations for “Multiple Purchase Reporting Forms.”

Whenever a federally licensed firearms dealer sold more than one handgun to an individual in a 30-day period, the dealer had to send the Multiple Purchase Reporting form to BATF.

BATF did nothing with most of the forms that it received. Thus, when would-be assassin John Hinckley legally bought two handguns from a Texas firearms dealer one day in early 1980, the dealer sent a Multiple Purchase Form to BATF.

Neither a BATF investigation based on the Multiple Purchase Form, nor the future “Brady Act,” would have prevented Hinckley’s purchases. His only criminal conviction was for a misdemeanor; his mental health records were private; and although the address on his Texas driver’s license was no longer correct, he was a Texas resident, and legally allowed to buy guns anywhere in Texas.

The BATF regulation for the Multiple Purchase Form was codified in the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act of 1986. The 1994 Clinton crime bill later mandated that the Multiple Purchase Form also be sent to the local chief of police or sheriff.

(from: http://www.nrapublications.org/archives/fabric.asp)

Mark

42 posted on 04/22/2006 6:26:05 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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