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Kerry accuses Bush of stifling dissent
Boston.com ^ | 04/22/2006 | Mark Pratt

Posted on 04/22/2006 1:29:53 PM PDT by Panerai

Those who disagree with the Bush administration's policies in Iraq face the same scornful charges that they are unpatriotic as Sen. John Kerry did 35 years ago when he spoke out against the Vietnam War, the Massachusetts Democrat said Saturday.

"I have come here today to reaffirm that it was right to dissent in 1971 from a war that was wrong. And to affirm that it is both a right and an obligation for Americans today to disagree with a President who is wrong, a policy that is wrong, and a war in Iraq that weakens the nation," Kerry said to a standing ovation Saturday at Boston's historic Faneuil Hall.

Kerry's speech came 35 years to the day after he testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to call for an end to the Vietnam war.

"How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?" Kerry said in 1971, a line that helped propel the decorated Navy combat veteran and Yale graduate onto the national stage.

The same question applies today as Americans wrestle with the mounting death toll in Iraq, Kerry said, speaking before about 500 supporters who punctuated his speech at least 20 times with ovations.

"Lives have been lost to bad decisions," Kerry said. "Not decisions that could have gone either way, but decisions that constitute basic negligence and incompetence. And lives continue to be lost because of stubbornness and pride."

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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1 posted on 04/22/2006 1:29:56 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai

Did Kerry serve in viet nam?


2 posted on 04/22/2006 1:33:02 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Panerai

The left is getting ever more shrill as it looks like a government may form in Iraq. They are desperately afraid peace may finally break out there.


3 posted on 04/22/2006 1:33:13 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Panerai
Didn't Kerry serve in Vietnam? I remember hearing something about that... it used to be seared, seared into my memory, but I kind of forgot exactly what happened...
4 posted on 04/22/2006 1:33:53 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Panerai
I don't know about anyone else, but I've had quite enough of the "dissent" of certain 'Rats, amplified by the MSM.

I'd suggest that they stop their descent from the gutter to the sewer.

5 posted on 04/22/2006 1:33:57 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Panerai
boo hoo....*sob, sob*...."How dare you question my patriotism"...blah, blah,blah....

What a sick man. Rich, arrogant, dumb and just plain disgusting.

6 posted on 04/22/2006 1:34:35 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Gordongekko909
"...it used to be seared, seared into my memory, but I kind of forgot exactly what happened..."

LOL!

7 posted on 04/22/2006 1:35:02 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Gordongekko909

Doesn't JF'n Kerry go to Cambodia to celebrate Christmas every year?


8 posted on 04/22/2006 1:35:05 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: JoanneSD

My Mother (God rest her soul) was right. She always said that John Kerry was not only a traitor but that "He's a Boob!"
He just feels compelled to keep proving it to us!


9 posted on 04/22/2006 1:35:34 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Panerai

Yeah, whatever.


10 posted on 04/22/2006 1:35:37 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (If you have burn a US flag, there's a chance that your patriotism will (rightly) be questioned.)
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To: Panerai

ARRGHHH!!!

The mental condition of LNM (Liberal Narcisstic Martyrdom) has now spread to the Democrat politicians!


11 posted on 04/22/2006 1:36:26 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Panerai

So the only thing left for him to do is call the troops fighting in Iraq rapists and baby killers?


12 posted on 04/22/2006 1:36:33 PM PDT by Ludicrous
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To: Panerai; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
And so speaks the bast##d that helped to cause the scorn that our brave young men faced when they returned from Vietnam.

May his soul never have a moments peace.

13 posted on 04/22/2006 1:37:08 PM PDT by carlr
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To: Lakeshark

"Rich, arrogant, dumb and just plain disgusting" - But enough about his wife


14 posted on 04/22/2006 1:37:14 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai

He STILL thinks he was a hero for what he did...what a LOSER!!!


15 posted on 04/22/2006 1:37:19 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Panerai
Those who disagree with the Bush administration's policies in Iraq scornfully charge the chief executive of manufacturing evidence, even though the same evidence was available to them. They suggest that the President is unpatriotic, and even worse, conducted a war for political gain

it is both a right and an obligation for Americans today to disagree with a [Democrat] who is wrong, and to call that democrat unpatriotic for the statements he made before congress in 1971.

"Lives have been lost to bad decisions," Kerry said. But stopped short of criticizing his own party for their bad decisions, which not only resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans on 911, but will result in more deaths to terrorist activity if they are in control of US Foreign policy.

 

16 posted on 04/22/2006 1:37:46 PM PDT by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: saganite
A-yup. That's what happens to a political party that invests itself in defeat.

No mention, I see, of Kerry's vote for the "mistake" in Iraq, no mention of his '04 campaign promise to run the mistake "smarter," no mention of the "not necessarily" answer he gave when he was asked if he were elected president in 2000, would Saddam still be in office by the end of '04...

This is why I love the internet and the left fears it. It's actually possible for disingenuous fools like Kerry to paint themselves into corners now.

17 posted on 04/22/2006 1:37:52 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Panerai

Someone needs to unscrew that idiot's head and **** down his neck. Talk about worthless as tits on a bull


18 posted on 04/22/2006 1:38:31 PM PDT by stm (Our country and world are at a crossroads; taking the wrong path is not an option.)
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To: Panerai

Kerry is like Tom Cruise or Michael Jackson.

Someone whose only reason they get any attention is that they are rich.
Without money, they would be used car salesman.



19 posted on 04/22/2006 1:38:31 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Panerai
Kerry's statement was meant to coincide with the publication of a book by Tyler Drumheller, the former CIA analyst who says the Administration ignored agency warnings on WMD.

He's part of the Wilson/Plame/McCarthy cabal.

20 posted on 04/22/2006 1:38:42 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Panerai

Someone who falsely calls U.S. Troops terrorists IS unpatriotic, Mr. Kerry. Yes, I DID question your patriotism, Mr. Kerry.


21 posted on 04/22/2006 1:38:59 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Paladin2

Yes. And Nixon was actually sitting in the Oval office in 1968. Yessir. 1968 wasn't like other elections, you see. Nixon got sworn in as soon as he won the election. Didn't have to wait until January of 1969 like other Presidents did.


22 posted on 04/22/2006 1:39:42 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Panerai
I'm glad I don't find myself living among the citizens of Massachussetts. They must be the lamest in the nation.

They just keep electing Kerry and Kennedy over and over and over and over.....

When will it stop?

23 posted on 04/22/2006 1:39:46 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Panerai
Yes- by the power of reasoned argument, debate is largely stifled by overwhelming consensus of opinion.

When parties disagree on core values and central tenets -- there is nothing left to debate. Clear differences will not be resolved through dialogue. Nor should they, if we really believe in our different philosophies.

24 posted on 04/22/2006 1:40:14 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
At least Cruise and Jackson earned their $.

Kerry needs to sponge off rich women. He could never earn $ himself.

25 posted on 04/22/2006 1:41:00 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: JoanneSD
Did Kerry serve in viet nam?

To answer your rhetorical question, ; ) Let me assure you that there is NO record of Kerry ever having "served" in Viet Nam. As a matter of fact, there is no record of his ever having served anywhere in any capacity. He is a non-issue.

26 posted on 04/22/2006 1:41:41 PM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Jackson may even have had some talent at one point.


27 posted on 04/22/2006 1:41:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Ludicrous

Well, he's already accused them of terrorizing civilians, but didn't explicitly mention rape. Although I suppose that's the next logical step.


28 posted on 04/22/2006 1:42:33 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: stm

Talk about worthless as tits on a bull


Well he certainly doesn't posses those "traits" that define a bull's purpose.


29 posted on 04/22/2006 1:42:47 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Panerai
But enough about his wife

:-)

A match made in heaven...ummm, no.... methinks the other place.....

30 posted on 04/22/2006 1:43:33 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Panerai
"I have come here today to reaffirm that it was right to dissent in 1971 from a war that was wrong."

Right to make heinous false accusations about your fellow soldiers? Well at least you didn't "question their motives".

"And to affirm that it is both a right and an obligation for Americans today to disagree with a President who is wrong, a policy that is wrong, and a war in Iraq that weakens the nation"

You mean that weakens the Democrats' chances of coming back to power. Sure, everyone has a right to speak his mind on the issue, paranoid visions of "stifling dissent" notwithstanding.

31 posted on 04/22/2006 1:44:32 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Panerai

Awww Jeezz... not this s**t again.


32 posted on 04/22/2006 1:44:43 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Panerai
"I have come here today to reaffirm that it was right to dissent..."

Dissent is one thing. Meeting with the enemy, to coordinate anti-war efforts inside the U.S., is something completely different.

33 posted on 04/22/2006 1:44:46 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Coop

If Kerry or ANY wealthy "veteran" really wanted to show they care about the troops....

They would have already done something to help keep that restaurant open in Washington that feeds the injured troops for free on Friday night...

All Kerry and his cohorts want to do is make our military out to be terrorists, baby-killers, and cut and run cowards...


34 posted on 04/22/2006 1:44:54 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Echo Talon

And I accuse John Kerry of being a stupid a$$hole....so...we're even.


35 posted on 04/22/2006 1:46:08 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Panerai

Kerry's an idiot.


36 posted on 04/22/2006 1:46:10 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: acapesket

"My Mother (God rest her soul) was right. She always said that John Kerry was not only a traitor but that "He's a Boob!"

You dear Mom was 100% correct.

And on top of being a boob, Kerry is a snob.


37 posted on 04/22/2006 1:46:27 PM PDT by Pittsburg Phil
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To: Panerai
This coming from someone that was PO'd at the Swiftboat vets for daring to speak the truth counter to his self-aggrandized political resume.
38 posted on 04/22/2006 1:46:38 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Panerai

Don't these people see the irony of crying about the "stifling" of dissent in the highest-circulation newspaper in New England.


39 posted on 04/22/2006 1:46:54 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: Panerai





40 posted on 04/22/2006 1:46:59 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Sadly, when there are new boobs to fry.


41 posted on 04/22/2006 1:47:15 PM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: SteveMcKing
Yes- by the power of reasoned argument, debate is largely stifled by overwhelming consensus of opinion.

Like in North Korea, or, say, Harvard University.

42 posted on 04/22/2006 1:47:57 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Panerai
Lives have been lost to bad decisions

And as you can vouch for ... so have elections.

43 posted on 04/22/2006 1:48:04 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: Panerai
Dissent Is Patriotic
Hating America Is Not

44 posted on 04/22/2006 1:48:22 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (CODE PINK has blood on their hands and they can never, never wash it off)
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To: Panerai

Yeah. Dissent is being stiffled in this country right now. Hardly anyone speaking out against the Bush administration. retard.


45 posted on 04/22/2006 1:48:33 PM PDT by bad company (Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius)
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To: Panerai
Kerry accuses Bush of stifling dissent

Does Kerry have one example of someone whose dissent was stifled by George W. Bush or anyone else?

46 posted on 04/22/2006 1:53:40 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Panerai

"Stifling dissent"??? PUH-LEEZE!!! What IS he complaining about? Kerry's whole life has been about dissent and obstructionism! It's what he is KNOWN for, for Pete's sake! If anybody has been trying to stifle him, it surely hasn't worked. It is just that what he says doesn't hold up under the scrutiny of truth.


47 posted on 04/22/2006 1:54:11 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Panerai
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Plus, I never knew he was a Vietnam Veteran!

48 posted on 04/22/2006 1:54:12 PM PDT by b4its2late (Liberals are as confused as a hungry baby in a topless bar.)
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To: JoanneSD

He says he did, but he never released his records, so we can't say for sure.


49 posted on 04/22/2006 1:55:38 PM PDT by mak5
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To: stm
Someone needs to unscrew that idiot's head and **** down his neck. Talk about worthless as tits on a bull

It's called a transcattlite.

50 posted on 04/22/2006 1:56:50 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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