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About being laid off and unwanted when you're 59
The Star (South Chicago) ^
| 4/23/6
| Michael Bowers
Posted on 04/23/2006 7:49:45 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: Torie
"I don't see how folks without very high incomes, will ever get there in some parts of California." I left California in 1973. I presently live on Mobile Bay instead of SF Bay. I drive an old Buick and a Ford Ranger, nothing too fancy but, comfortable.
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posted on
04/23/2006 6:50:11 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
You seem to have a little latifundia down there in the swamps. Are you on the east or west side of the bay? Our firm has a client who owns a factory in Fairhope.
422
posted on
04/23/2006 6:55:04 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: the invisib1e hand
"He got an offer for some contract work. There were no benefits, but it was a paying job.
That is the point. No employer is going to be liable for benefits to an older person."
The two companies that I work for have eliminated medical benefits for all new hires, but allow the new hires to buy health insurance at reduced rates. Age isn't a factor. Their new retirement plan for these new hires is "we will put some of your earned money in an account if you want us to."
423
posted on
04/23/2006 7:01:48 PM PDT
by
HighWheeler
(The liberal dinosaurs bellow defiantly while sinking deeper into the swamp.......)
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
That is very presumptive of you. How do you know he did not go thru a bankruptcy due to a medical crisis in the family? Could happen to any one of us insured or not.
424
posted on
04/23/2006 7:06:08 PM PDT
by
Minutemen
("It's a Religion of Peace")
To: Minutemen
You'll have to read the hundreds of posts to find out. Until then, your comment isn't worth my time.
425
posted on
04/23/2006 7:19:45 PM PDT
by
69ConvertibleFirebird
(Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
To: tortoise; All
My problem is I don't know how much cash we will need coming in. I don't need to be rich but I darn sure don't want to be poor. Just comfortable. Food. Gas. Utilities. Taxes. My husband is older and I'm trying to get him to retire first. We can go from there.
To: Mr Rogers
However, there are still sections in the government where government employees develop the software and do the engineering. It isn't common, but I like it when I encounter it (as a management type myself) - when the government develops and owns the software, we don't get raped when we want a change made. I know, I know of a few such instances myself, but they are few and far between. There are other instances, where there is a "captive" contractor doing such work, and in such cases they can often do such mods and even major overhauls much more cheaply. It's not so much that the other contractors are raping you, as the system is raping you and the rest of us taxpayers as well. The on again, off again nature of the budgeting and contracting process makes taking on such small tasks not really worth the candle, unless there is a significant prospect of follow on work. The cost to bid on such projects is more than they are worth by themselves. Smaller contractors often will do so anyway, because they are hungrier, and because it doesn't cost them so much to bid.
427
posted on
04/23/2006 7:23:20 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: hedgetrimmer
indeed. and this is what the FR economic bots don't seem to understand about the economy, and why americans have a 39% approval rating on the economy in spite of good macro numbers.
To: Torie
"You seem to have a little latifundia down there in the swamps. Are you on the east or west side of the bay? Our firm has a client who owns a factory in Fairhope." I'm on the cheap side of the bay, west...down near Fowl River.
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posted on
04/23/2006 7:28:45 PM PDT
by
blam
To: SmithL
There are such louts, sickos drawn to this board who know exactly what some unfortunate person "should of done". Why, they know what everybody "should of done"! They are of course perfect themselves, and the capitalist system, they so admire after reading Ayn Rand' turgid prose is perfect too.
In fact, the tensions between soulless capitalism and the society are there, will be there, and the denial of such realities will only lead to such absurdities and the UAW and the GM deals. Dog eat dog leads to stringent dog leash laws. I sympathize with the laid off workers,whatever their circumstances and whatever their past mistakes. A modern business that thinks that it doesn't owe anything to its employees or to the community which supports it, doesn't deserve to exist. Run it down with government regulations, for all I care...
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posted on
04/23/2006 7:32:12 PM PDT
by
Revolting cat!
("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
To: SmithL
The babyboomers are living longer than their parents, and unlike generations from the past, they won't be retiring at 50.
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posted on
04/23/2006 7:34:36 PM PDT
by
paltz
To: paltz
Nah. 50 is a good time for the second career. We are healthy and can work. Why should we take to the rocking chair unless we want to?
To: Revolting cat!
I owe my company 100% while there. All they owe me is a pay check. If they don't need my services any more or if I don't want to work any longer with them we are both free to call it quits.
To: hedgetrimmer
Not everyone is suited to start or run a business. This, I am afraid, is globalist claptrap designed to trick Americans into accepting the employment problems in this country, and not to question the looting of our domestic economy by transnationalist outsourcing, offshoring and FDI.Right on. There are certain things only a large corporation can do well. Plus large US owned businesses and corporations on US soil employ Americans and the profits stay here. This entrepreneur stuff is overrated and can only take a nation so far
434
posted on
04/23/2006 7:40:09 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
To: SamAdams76
And what is wrong with having a lesson on what you should have done? Just how is that going to help anyone, unless you want to hold that horror story up to scare a few children.
I am retired so I don't need your lesson, the poor guy couldhave used some useful suggestions, but......
Who among you would give their son a stone, when he asks for water.
435
posted on
04/23/2006 7:57:54 PM PDT
by
itsahoot
(Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
To: bfree
Not everyone is as fortunate and perfect as you seem to beWell said!
436
posted on
04/23/2006 8:02:54 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
To: SmithL
I almost posted several different comments and decided on this, keep your education current with the times, keep your debts as low as possible, save your money and live modest, and hope nothing major goes wrong that will wipe out your finances.
There are jobs to be had, it may not be the job you want but the jobs are there. Unemployment is at an all time low, which puts potential employees at a premium with the proper will and credentials.
I know this sounds like pompous rhetoric but the only one watching out for you, is you. The world is cruel, and it is a jungle. If it swallows you up, not many will take notice or care and life will go on. If you get to the age of 60 and you do not have your finances in place for retirement, chances are you will be working till the day you die to survive.
437
posted on
04/23/2006 8:07:30 PM PDT
by
TheForceOfOne
(El Chupacabra spotted near U.S./Mexican border feeding on illegal immigrants. Pass it on..)
To: Wombat101
Thank you for sharing your experiences in dealing with your past mental illness. May I wish you success in your future endeavors.
438
posted on
04/23/2006 8:10:56 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
439
posted on
04/23/2006 8:34:42 PM PDT
by
DennisR
(Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
To: tortoise
This thread is really amazing, in that everyone is giving advice as if it's gospel, when no one knows for sure how they'll react when facing age discrimination and termination as an older worker.
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posted on
04/23/2006 8:37:01 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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