Skip to comments.Law clears some drug store shelves
Posted on 04/23/2006 10:07:31 AM PDT by PghBaldy
Looking for decongestants to relieve sinus and allergy symptoms soon could become a real headache. The same legislation that gives law-enforcement officials broad powers to identify terrorists now enables the government to track the sale of certain over-the-counter medications that can be abused or used by drug rings to manufacture methamphetamines.
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"They know more about me than I wish."
They already did.
Forcing every citizen to prove they aren't a crook, isn't the type of nation I expected to live in when I was growing up.
It's becoming an epidemic. No tyranny was ever established in the name of tyranny. This has already gone too far..
Been that way here in WV for a while.
I don't know what the patriot act has to do with it. In some states you have to show id and some you don't.
Right on! We can't have those negro jazz musicians getting hopped up and raping our white women!
IF people do not specifically want this ingredient, at least they may now be aware that it can cause an increased heart rate. This can be dangerous for someone with unrecognized atrial fibrillation. I am not speaking about the requirement for signature, etc., just the publication that it is not a benign ingredient.
Not benign, but damn effective. I can't think of a substitute with equivalent efficacy.
The downfall of America, should it happen, won't come from the outside. It will come from within.
Terrorism pales in comparison to what we'll allow to be done to ourselves.
I know this is a nuisance, I've had to buy as well but here in Missouri meth production was rampant and has been drastically decreased by this law. Often times the ones that get hooked on this stuff are teenagers, then their life is ruined, they spend years in jail (at taxpayer expense), manufacture and get other kids hooked. It is troublesome and I'm not for lots of laws but I stand behind this one.
Think about it. If a non citizen shows up at a hospital emergency room, they can get any healthcare needs met.
If a citizen shows up at a pharmacy looking for a decongestant, they must present their identification to be swiped into a federal database.
This is the absurdity that passes for reasoned logic in the United States these days.
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=63227 "The Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act, part of the just renewed PATRIOT Act, will be of immense help. The new law also establishes a national standard regulating meth ingredients, confronts the human and environmental consequences of the toxic labs, and increases the penalties for drug kingpins." This is a quote from Att Gen Alberto Gonzales. He starts out talking about how he is a child of Mexican immigrants...
They'll have to pull the Claritan-D out of my cold, dead, but OPEN nasal passages.
There is a major problem with kids making the meth. I agree its a pain to show id but I'd rather not see kids on drugs. I had not known how bad it was until I saw a program on it. It's really heartbreaking. I totally agree with you on this law.
The War On Terrorism soldiers on.
Public drunks is a problem everywhere. Why don't we do breathalyzers in bars? I also see kids riding bikes "too fast" maybe they should be clocked by the State Troopers. Fat people everywhere. Maybe we can save their lives by refusing to serve them at buffets... Where does it stop. BTW, I was annoyed with this stuff when I was a liberal too. It's the constant "need" for evermore info on us. Not the terrorists, or the drug dealers, but everyone.
Dude, Claritin-D is a P.O. med...
When I was a kid in the 60's, the manager would chase us out of the store when he knew we weren't buying cough syrup for a cough. Shoo! Shoo!
It worked well.
That law came into effect in Kentucky last year and it really has helped cut down on meth production. Problem is far from solved, but it's better. I don't have a problem with having to sign a form to get medication.
This is another ill conceived law that criminalizes people for buying over the counter medicine, rather than those who make and use meth. Many people in this country, even some of our FRiends, find these laws acceptable if they do some good. Not only do they not consider any negative consequences of this law, they do not consider the precedent it sets in regards to further criminalizing victimless actions.
I'm not saying there isn't a major problem with meth labs, or terrorists using drugs to fund their ops. I blame a lot of this nonsense on PC. Instead of looking at who is most likely to be engaged in terror, the govt throws a vast net over the country. I don't believe either party wants to become tyrants, but by their actions, they make it more likely. All of these "helpful" & "Urgently needed" laws for this or that "crisis" are disturbing. We are frogs in slowly boiling water.
I have been signing for it in Illinois for a long time but was in Oklahoma a couple of weeks ago and bought it without showing id or signing anything.
In Texas, the police just go into bars and arrest those who appear to be to drunk to drive.
And now meth will just come up from mexico, like was already happening...
Dumb laws like this do nothing to stop the big distributors. This will just give them more power. The only thing it will hamper is the small time meth makers.
Hey, maybe we should seal the border? Here is Missouri the law is working.
That wont be a problem for much longer. Manufacturers of Pseudoephedrine are already moving to Phenylephrine. In a few years it'll be hard for meth labs to even find Pseudoephedrine.
Not coming from south of the border it won't.
And, when turned into Meth we are no longer discussing dancing merry makers, but something more like crazy people with their teeth falling out.
Is that the precedent?
They also have a higher than normal death rate.
"When it comes to Meth, there are ONLY small time operators ~ most with their teeth falling out ~ another hazard with that stuff."
Wrong, wrong wrong.
"Mexican criminal groups, who often operate high capacity superlabs, are the primary producers of methamphetamine in the Pacific and Southwest Regions; however, Caucasian independent producers also are active, typically operating low capacity laboratories capable of producing ounce quantities of methamphetamine."
"Historically, suppliers of methamphetamine in the United States were gangs and other independent trafficking groups. Although gangs continue to produce meth and control a share of the market, Mexico-based trafficking groups entered the illicit methamphetamine market in 1995 and now dominate the trade. With their ability to obtain wholesale (multi-ton) quantities of precursor chemicals on the international market, their access to already established smuggling and distribution networks, and their control over laboratories capable of large-scale production and distribution of methamphetamine, these criminal groups from Mexico now dominate wholesale meth trafficking in the United States.
Over the past few years, these groups revolutionized the production and distribution of methamphetamine by operating super labs that can produce unprecedented quantities of high-purity methamphetamine. Each such lab is capable of producing 10 pounds or more per manufacturing cycle. "
What did I say about "small time operators". 'at's 'em.
For sure. Meth is ok, it won't hurt anyone. You just keep dreaming those dreams.
Were you trying to buy a case of sudafed?
"What did I say about "small time operators""
You said this:
"When it comes to Meth, there are ONLY small time operators"
Which I showed to be not true.
Keep spinning how you're right. It doesn't make it so.
In Texas you have to sign a log sheet at the pharmacy to purchase. They do keep your information such as your drivers license, however I didn't have a problem with this law until..........
I found out that the state does not have the staff to check these logs. In fact NO logs have been checked to date. GREAT????? So if some amped up meth freak kills someone and its found out he bought all of his drugs at Walgreens who do you sue? The law is ok as long as the State follows up with all that data.
seen a blurp on FNC the other day they have a brandd new proceedure for sinues, they lazer the openings out bigger,, no more stoping up
Dude, Claritan-D keeps the nasal passages clear, DUH!
Repeat after me:
Take the pill, clear the nose
Take the pill, clear the nose
Take the pill, clear the nose
Take the pill, clear the nose
As I said all of them are small time.
My god you are full of it.
Proven wrong by articles, yet you keep spinning like you're the correct one.
Just give it up. You're making yourself look foolish.
It would ruin my voice. :)
In many places, it's illegal to be drunk at home. Since most accidents happen in the home, maybe we should go door to door checking. I just think there has to be a limit. This just annoyed me. The (immigrant/illegal) clerk's attitude didn't help. The law is pharmacies are supposed to do it by Sept.
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