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Specter: U.S. should consider windfall oil tax
AP ^ | 4/23/6

Posted on 04/23/2006 1:00:08 PM PDT by Crackingham

The government should consider a tax on oil companies if they make excessive profits amid rising gasoline prices, a leading Republican senator said Sunday. Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said a windfall profits tax, along with measures to stem concentration of market power among a few select oil companies, could offer eventual relief to consumers hurting at the gas pump.

"I believe that we have allowed too many companies to get together to reduce competition," Specter said.

"They get together, reduce the supply of oil, and that drives up prices," he said. "In the short run, it's hard to deal with it for tomorrow. But I think windfall profits, eliminating the antitrust exemption, considering the excessive concentration of power are all items we ought to be addressing."

Specter is backing legislation that would strengthen antitrust laws on oil company mergers after his committee held a hearing last month examining the growing consolidation of the oil industry. The nation's largest oil companies, including Exxon Mobil Corp., have denied their industry size has affected prices.

Last week, crude-oil prices hit record highs and average gasoline prices nationwide neared $3 a gallon.

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., said he believes gas prices "would come down within a matter of days" if President Bush told oil companies that he was going to support a windfall profits tax.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 04/23/2006 1:00:12 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

The WPT worked so well last time...


2 posted on 04/23/2006 1:01:23 PM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: Crackingham

I think you should consider shutting the he!! up, Spectroid. We don't need no more stinkin' taxes!


3 posted on 04/23/2006 1:01:54 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Crackingham

5% profit is excessive?????????


4 posted on 04/23/2006 1:03:10 PM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Crackingham
What does just ExxonMobile pay in federal taxes now ... 27 billion? Maybe they should be paying 27 trillion.


Any reason fools like Spector are voted into office?




5 posted on 04/23/2006 1:04:11 PM PDT by G.Mason
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To: Crackingham
Price controls on oil would produces shortages by making it impossible to sell gas for a reasonable price. This ain't rocket science. I guess our demagoging politicians want to do their hardest to bring back those long lines at gas stations all over the country - like in the 1970s. That's exactly what a windfall profits tax would do.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

6 posted on 04/23/2006 1:04:38 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Crackingham
Raising the tax will not reduce the price.

But, that is about all our gov't representatives ever think of, which is not their job in the first place. They are supposed to be enabling commerce, which is the reason the Constitution of 1787 was created.

7 posted on 04/23/2006 1:04:46 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Ladysmith

No only STHU but lower the fed taxes on gas dumb head! And then reduce the blends the EPA demands. Could Bush issue an executive order to halt the EPA regs on summer blends?


8 posted on 04/23/2006 1:05:03 PM PDT by Babsig (www.genesysitsolutions.com)
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To: Crackingham
This guy is stuck in the 70's.

No gas lines...no drama.



9 posted on 04/23/2006 1:05:11 PM PDT by x1stcav (Illegals go home! I'll mow the damned lawn myself!)
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To: Crackingham

How did Specter vote on drilling in ANWR?


10 posted on 04/23/2006 1:05:15 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
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To: P-40

I expect there will be plenty of idiots willing to support it, even here....


11 posted on 04/23/2006 1:05:26 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: Ladysmith

Perhaps the WPT could apply to politicans salary which is all a windfall in my opinion. Hey Specter...which one of my pockets is EXXON going to collect those taxes from? What a moron!!!


12 posted on 04/23/2006 1:05:54 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: Crackingham
Yeah, let take the money the oil companies need for new wellheads (and repairing the Gulf terminals) and spend it on welfare and healthcare for the illegal immigrants that we've just amnestied.

Is there any other period when this country has had two parties that are so stupid and out of touch?

13 posted on 04/23/2006 1:07:02 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: Uriah_lost

The best government is essentially a evil thing.


14 posted on 04/23/2006 1:07:50 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Crackingham

The man's a moron.


15 posted on 04/23/2006 1:07:56 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: x1stcav
No one in Congress is talking about repealing federal taxes on the SALE of gas - even temporarily. We always hear how businesses make too much profit. We never hear how the government can make some sacrifices - like a reduction in its revenue - even for a few months. The level of economic illiteracy in Congress is just abysmal.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

16 posted on 04/23/2006 1:08:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Crackingham
Amazing how a college graduate with a law degree can be so "STUPID"!!

Why George Bush stumped for this guy is beyond comprehension.

17 posted on 04/23/2006 1:09:47 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: RightWhale

Yes, it would raise the price. The cost would trickle down to us.


18 posted on 04/23/2006 1:09:50 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Crackingham

Maybe the Senate should pass a useful energy program. Drill ANWR, start building nuclear power plants again, start building more refineries, distributed in more locations, reduce regulatory rules that make it hard to build power plants, upgrade the electric power grids.

Much of this can be done simply by changing the regulatory climate, making it once more profitable for businesses to operate in these areas.

But you know damned well what they'll do, instead. Spend six months investigating Exxon because they gave their retiring chief too much money.


19 posted on 04/23/2006 1:10:00 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Crackingham

Specter, coming up with the stupid ideas that most Americans won't think.


20 posted on 04/23/2006 1:10:20 PM PDT by bordergal
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To: Crackingham; All

Sometimes I just want pound my head against the wall..


21 posted on 04/23/2006 1:10:32 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: Crackingham

Spoken like a true commie, socialist, fascist POS. Sphincter's a scumbag.


22 posted on 04/23/2006 1:10:40 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: Crackingham
How about a Senator pension tax. 80% would do.
23 posted on 04/23/2006 1:10:49 PM PDT by Racer1
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To: Crackingham

No S.P.E.C.T.R.E. we should remove the taxes that the consumer pays. So Says the "Man from U.N.C.L.E.!"


24 posted on 04/23/2006 1:10:59 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Crackingham
Specter simply cannot be that stupid.

This must be some sort of act or point he is trying to make to an entity of some sort.

He has to know OPEC basically sets the price of oil by restricting production against tremendous pressure to increase production.

Of course, he is a sitting US Senator, so maybe he is that dumb!

25 posted on 04/23/2006 1:11:06 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Crackingham
I think tax rates should be based on how your Senator and Rep votes on any tax increase. If they vote for it I assume you are all for paying a larger share. If they vote against it you pay a lower rate.

U-haul should profit handsomely from this so by stock now.
26 posted on 04/23/2006 1:11:11 PM PDT by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Pass through taxes. The sheeple haven't woke to this fact of life yet, and may never.


27 posted on 04/23/2006 1:11:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Crackingham

This country is going down because of idiots like Spectator sitting in the government and sheeple who think profits are evil.


28 posted on 04/23/2006 1:12:15 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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To: Ladysmith

He's talking about taxing the OIL COMPANIES.

Remember it's not summer yet. The prices WILL GO HIGHER!


29 posted on 04/23/2006 1:13:21 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: KevinDavis
May I suggest you pound Spectiod's head into the wall instead? Just a suggestion.
30 posted on 04/23/2006 1:13:27 PM PDT by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: PISANO
This is the same Specter who tried to rush through an amnesty program for illegal aliens without doing a full analysis on the impact of the bill or what its enforcement costs might be. This is the same thing he's doing here with gas prices - propose a windfall profits tax bill without looking at the larger picture. The common thread connecting these two unrelated subjects goes by the same name - pandering. Hells bells, its an election year, folks!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

31 posted on 04/23/2006 1:13:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: iluvlucy
Seriously, if oil futures were heavily taxed the price of oil would most likely go down. A tax that would make it less profitable to buy and sell oil futures that is. And I hate taxes.
32 posted on 04/23/2006 1:15:04 PM PDT by Racer1
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To: Crackingham
Our Representatives in DC need to ditch their sweetheart retirement, medical, dental and also be responsible for what comes out of their mouths both in their campaigning and after they start fleecing the constituents (taxes and regulations) and they should also have to prepare their own Tax Returns.

Spector (SPIT) is a legend in his own mind.

TT
33 posted on 04/23/2006 1:15:48 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
Specter is the reason I no longer contribute the RNC.
Well, Specter and Chafee. And Snow. And Collins.
Well, you get the picture.
34 posted on 04/23/2006 1:17:14 PM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: Crackingham

So who ultimately pays the windfall profits tax, hmmm?


35 posted on 04/23/2006 1:18:27 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: nmh; All

Guess who will be paying the higher taxes on the "evil" oil companies....


36 posted on 04/23/2006 1:20:00 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: Cicero
Maybe the Senate should pass a useful energy program.

I have no idea why Bush doesn't get in front of the nation via a nation address and call the Senate into action addressing the energy issues this nation faces.

Congress and especially the Senate has literally sat on their asses letting the energy problem grow more and more dangerous using it as a political tool against Bush.

Frist needs to resign and Mitch McConnell needs to take over. Mitch will kick some ass.

37 posted on 04/23/2006 1:20:28 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: goldstategop
I guess our demagoging politicians want to do their hardest to bring back those long lines at gas stations all over the country - like in the 1970s. That's exactly what a windfall profits tax would do.

They have convince me long ago that business knows better as to what to do and for politicians to question "free enterprise" is only shown as an attempt for politicians to seek a skimming profit themselves by politicizing this issue.

38 posted on 04/23/2006 1:21:21 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: plain talk
We do! The oil companies don't pay anything. Consumers do. And Specter thinks the public is so stupid they won't notice the government's GOUGING them! Let's see if the government rips people off, that's a public service; if the oil companies are alleged to do it, they're fleecing the consumer. Gotta love the way the politicians set up the terms of the debate.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

39 posted on 04/23/2006 1:22:13 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Crackingham

Looks like arlen was watching CNN last night. I'm not surprised.


40 posted on 04/23/2006 1:22:35 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Crackingham
"I believe that we have allowed too many companies to get together to reduce competition," Specter said.

Spector is an @ss!

Where is his proof that oil companies are conspiring to reduce competition?! Every investigation of oil companies shows that gas prices are a function of supply and demand.

OTOH, we have plenty of proof that Congress conspires to raise gas prices. It allows the EPA (an unconstitutional agency) to require numerous gas formulations (an unconstitutional regulation). It refuses to allow drilling in ANWR. It allows endless blocking of building nuclear power plants. And now it wants to impose another tax on oil companies which will just be passed onto the consumer as higher gas prices!

It is not the oil companies that need investigating here. They aren't conspiring. They don't need to. Congress is openly conspiring to raise gas prices. So Congress should be investigated.

Maybe we should start with Specter.

41 posted on 04/23/2006 1:22:46 PM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: Crackingham

The US should consider a law that allows for profoundly ignorant politicians to be removed from office as soon as they demonstrate that they are mentally incapable of understanding free markets.

I know...this would clean-out about 2/3 of congress. We can call it the Arlen bill.


42 posted on 04/23/2006 1:23:47 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: Popman
Mitch will kick some ass

Until he is in the position to do so.

Be careful for what you wish for.

43 posted on 04/23/2006 1:23:53 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Uriah_lost; nmh

It took 29 posts for the first to show up.


44 posted on 04/23/2006 1:24:07 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Crackingham

Yup, it's long been official, but Spectre reconfirmed it.

The Republicans are no better than the Democrats when dealing with the oil/gasoline issue.


45 posted on 04/23/2006 1:24:17 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Cicero

Add to that a single formulation of gasoline that works for the entire country.


46 posted on 04/23/2006 1:24:57 PM PDT by ShandaLear (Announcing you plans is a good way to hear God laugh. Al Swearengen, 1877—Deadwood)
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To: G.Mason

Yes, he had the full support of the administration against a real conservative, Pat Toomey. And now Specter acting just like the lib he is.


47 posted on 04/23/2006 1:25:43 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Crackingham

I'll agree to a windfall profits tax on one condition: Gimme it!


48 posted on 04/23/2006 1:25:53 PM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: mikeybaby

Seems that as long as our political landscape features Republican vs. Democrat instead of Conservative vs. Liberal we will be plagued by these fools. You know this old man would rather drink wine with Kennedy and Kerry than break bread with a tax-paying working family.


49 posted on 04/23/2006 1:26:46 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Crackingham
Give a politician an "excuse" to Levy a new tax and they sure will take it.
50 posted on 04/23/2006 1:27:34 PM PDT by Red6
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