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Moves Signal Tighter Secrecy Within C.I.A.
NYTIMES ^ | 04/24/06 | SCOTT SHANE and MARK MAZZETTI

Posted on 04/23/2006 7:42:45 PM PDT by Pikamax

Moves Signal Tighter Secrecy Within C.I.A. By SCOTT SHANE and MARK MAZZETTI

WASHINGTON, April 23 — The crackdown on leaks at the Central Intelligence Agency that led to the dismissal of a veteran intelligence officer last week included a highly unusual polygraph examination for the agency's independent watchdog, C.I.A. Inspector General John L. Helgerson, intelligence officials with knowledge of the investigation said on Sunday.

The special polygraphs, which have been given to dozens of employees since January, are part of a broader effort by C.I.A. Director Porter J. Goss to re-emphasize a culture of secrecy.

As the inspector general, Mr. Helgerson was the supervisor of Mary O. McCarthy, who was fired on Thursday after admitting she had leaked classified information to reporters about secret C.I.A. detention centers and other subjects, agency officials said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeaker; ciareform; cultureofcorruption; cultureoftreason; d; leaks; leakymccarthyism; marymccarthy; mccarthyism; portergoss; singmarysing
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To: Chuck54

See my reply to Shermy below. Are you suggesting that the federal prosecutor was not investigating the leak of Plame's identity?


21 posted on 04/23/2006 8:27:14 PM PDT by PubliusToo
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To: PubliusToo
What exactly am I missing here?

You're not missing anything here. We at FR haven't tanked up on Koolaid and still have our heads on straight.

No one over here is that much interested in your regurgitating the talking points you so obviously obtained at Dummies Unhinged.

Comprehend?

22 posted on 04/23/2006 8:28:00 PM PDT by Chuck54 (4/23/06 The day Juan Williams "jumped the shark" on FNS,)
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To: PubliusToo

Hi Newbie.


23 posted on 04/23/2006 8:29:28 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Pikamax
part of a broader effort by C.I.A. Director Porter J. Goss to re-emphasize a culture of secrecy

Guess the Dims will use this new buzz phrase since it ties in with the "culture of secrecy" of the Bush WH. How can an agency with "Intelligence" in its name deal in anything other than secrecy, and since the NYT does not have a Security Clearance, that leaves them out in the cold. The CIA and NSA have not been doing a very good job of keeping their secrets lately, leaking like a sieve to the 4th branch of Government - the MSM. You the 4th branch of Government that looks out for the population's good, and warns us of what our eeevil Government is doing behind the vault doors.

24 posted on 04/23/2006 8:30:15 PM PDT by p23185 (Being trashed by the Stone Age Press should be worn as a badge of honor by Repubs and Conservatives)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Please to me you, digitally speaking that is.


25 posted on 04/23/2006 8:30:31 PM PDT by PubliusToo
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To: PubliusToo

You are missing a BRAIN...now go back to the DU like a good little twit.


26 posted on 04/23/2006 8:30:34 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: PubliusToo

Was she even covert? I hadn't heard.... Perhaps they should ask the reporters that the Wilson's entertained in their home before the Novak story hit.


27 posted on 04/23/2006 8:31:02 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: PubliusToo

Right.


28 posted on 04/23/2006 8:31:03 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: PubliusToo

Not pleased to meet you until you know FACTS instead of Dem talking points.


29 posted on 04/23/2006 8:32:40 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Pikamax
Strange. I thought this move signalled even greater collusion between liberals and the CIA.
30 posted on 04/23/2006 8:32:43 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: Pikamax

Secrecy? In the CIA? How outrageous!


31 posted on 04/23/2006 8:32:55 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Huh? Am I the only one who reads the newspapers? That Plame "leak" was a big deal for quite a while. To date, the only indictment concerning the leak was the perjury charge against Libby. Why does that make me a "twit?"


32 posted on 04/23/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by PubliusToo
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

Clinton's briefings in 1992. The first briefings, on September 4, 1992, concerned the major national security issues of the moment, including turmoil in the soon-to-be-defunct Soviet Union and escalating conflict in Yugoslavia. Clinton received no further briefings until after the election, at which point a CIA team established a presence in Little Rock. Leading the briefings from that point onward was John L. Helgerson, who latter wrote Getting to Know the President: CIA Briefings of Presidential Candidates, 1952–1992, published by CIA's Center for the Study of Intelligence in 1996.

On November 11, Helgerson met with Clinton, Berger, and Nancy Soderberg of the governor's staff. Two days later, he began his briefings with Clinton. As Helgerson explained to the candidate, the PDB goes to the vice-president, national security advisor, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, White House chief of staff, and secretaries of State and Defense. In view of the growing importance of economic issues, Helgerson suggested that the Secretary of the Treasury also be included. Clinton agreed.

Other than this one suggestion, Helgerson indicated, he was hesitant to guide the president-elect in any way. Helgerson recalled that, in view of what he described as CIA "policy buzz saws" of the 1980s (most notably, the Iran-Contra scandal), he took great pains not to try to influence Clinton's thinking on any issues. Over the period from November 13 to January 16, 1993, Helgerson and others provided the president elect with daily briefings while Bush, now a "lame duck" president, received exactly the same material in his PDB. Beginning January 17, the briefing team moved from Little Rock to Washington, preparing to make the transition to providing Clinton with daily briefings as president.


33 posted on 04/23/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: PubliusToo

"What exactly am I missing here?"

You wrote:

"I thought Plame was outed by The White House? Didn't Karl Rove admit to releasing her name?"

The White House did not leak her name to Novak. It was probably someone in the State Dept. It appears many people were talking about Wilson and how he got the trip to Niger. This interest preceded Joe's New York Times article by a few months because Joe was "leaking" to the press about his trip and about how he debunked the Niger forgeries. He also stated he was working at the behest of Cheney and since he "proved" there was no "sale" of uranium, and Cheney "must have" known this, Bush lied, etc. etc. He said all these things while he was an undisclosed advisor for Kerry's Presedential campaign.

I suspect many people were talking about Joe and how he got his trip. The Senate Intelligence Committee reported that most analysts thought his trip proved nothing either way, a minority thought the info he returned increased the likelihood of Saddam's interest in uranium.

Stating Plame's name was not a crime, apparently, because Libby was charged with no such crime.


34 posted on 04/23/2006 8:35:17 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Suzy Quzy

SQ do you also notice how easy these trolls are to recognize.

They just cannot conceal their glee, with talking points in hand, they just assume they sound so realistic. Not many last over a week or two.

I've been posting (1000+) at Dummies Unhinged for over a year and they still think I'm "one of them". They are so easy to fool.


35 posted on 04/23/2006 8:35:33 PM PDT by Chuck54 (4/23/06 The day Juan Williams "jumped the shark" on FNS,)
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To: PubliusToo

The perjury charge has NOTHING to do with the leak...you are a twit...or ignorant.


36 posted on 04/23/2006 8:36:08 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Suzy Quzy

Again, you seem to misunderstand what I am saying. The investigation that resulted in the perjury charge was over the leak. Obviously, the federal prosecutor did not question Libby about his alleged perjury. What did you think the investigation was about?


37 posted on 04/23/2006 8:41:46 PM PDT by PubliusToo
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To: Shermy

Well, I certainly do not know who leaked her name or how. For that mattter, I do not know whether any crime was committed. All I know is that the federal prosecutor has been investigating the leak and that investigation included White House personnel, especially Libby and Rove. How does that make me a dummie or twit?


38 posted on 04/23/2006 8:44:24 PM PDT by PubliusToo
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To: PubliusToo

When you get up to speed on FACTS, get back to me, otherwise don;t.


39 posted on 04/23/2006 8:47:42 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: PubliusToo
How does that make me a dummie or twit?

What makes you a dummy and a twit is your obsession with the Plame deal and trying to place blame on Rove and the White House.

Can you understand?

40 posted on 04/23/2006 8:48:57 PM PDT by Chuck54 (4/23/06 The day Juan Williams "jumped the shark" on FNS,)
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