Posted on 04/24/2006 10:55:30 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
The madness of bombing Iran
Robert Skidelsky
As our leaders soften us up for a new war, here are the arguments we cant afford to ignore....
THERE IS no doubt that Western opinion is being softened up for a US or Israeli strike against the Iranian centrifuges at Natanz. Can anyone within range of Irans missiles feel safe?, screams a full-page advertisement in the International Herald Tribune, displaying a map of the Eurasian land mass with Iran at its centre.
As part of the softening-up come the justifications, as false as the ones that preceded the Iraq war, but more disgraceful second time round. Here are the counter-arguments.
First, it needs to be trumpeted that a military strike now would be illegal under international law. The UN Security Council would never authorise it, since Iran has not breached the terms of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty that allows every signatory to develop nuclear energy for peaceful use. However, the hawks no longer even talk about the need to get Security Council approval this is the measure of the damage to international law that Bush and Blair have inflicted.
The United States (or Israel) would claim it was acting in self-defence. But by long-established customary law a pre-emptive strike is justified only to defend against an imminent and certain attack. True enough, what happens tomorrow is never certain, but if another countrys troops start massing at ones frontier that would be pretty good evidence of hostile intention. To claim the right of self-defence against a threat that may or may not emerge in five years time is to claim the right to wage aggressive war whenever one chooses. This was one of the two grounds on which Nazi leaders were convicted and executed at Nuremberg.
John Reid, the Defence Secretary, has recently been arguing that the right of pre-emption should be turned into the right of prevention, rather than waiting for the next threat to come along. If one happened to learn that a threat was being developed, would it not be ones duty to zap it before it became actual? The answer is no. The more potential the threat, the less transparent it will be, the more flawed one's intelligence, and the more scope leaders will have to manipulate public opinion.
If Iraq taught us anything it should have been this. Tony Blair at first stuck to the accepted justification for a pre-emptive strike by claiming that Iraq was an immediate threat (the notorious 45 minutes). When that was revealed as phoney, he fell back on the argument that Iraq would have acquired a WMD capability had we not overthrown Saddam Hussein. Such arguments allow unscrupulous leaders to make war on a whim.
To return from Mr Reids science fiction to earth: the technology of making nuclear weapons is not obscure. The Iranians claim to have enriched uranium to the 3.5 per cent level. This is enough to use as nuclear fuel, but nowhere near enough for nuclear weapons. That requires up to 90 per cent enrichment, with 50 to 100 kilograms of it to make a single bomb. The Iranians say they have 164 centrifuges. But thousands would be needed to get a significant amount of weapons grade uranium. Experts say it would take five years or more to produce an atomic bomb from domestic processes.
The biggest danger of nuclear proliferation is not that rogue states will learn how to enrich uranium enough to build nuclear weapons but that already enriched uranium stocks will leak out to terrorist groups. A terrorist group that obtained 50kg of highly enriched uranium would probably be able to make a nuclear device. But it could make it anywhere in a garage in London, for instance. The answer to this is not to bomb Iraq, but to reduce such stockpiles (mainly in Russia and the United States) to a minimum, and make sure they are under iron control.
People who support military action ask: how do we know that Iran isn't lying when it says that its uranium enrichment programme is intended only for civilian use? Surely, this is a clear case for invoking the precautionary principle: the risk may be slight but the consequences of ignoring it may be catastrophic. But no one is arguing that the risk should be ignored. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty now also allows for intrusive inspections. Hans Blix has written: If you want a control system that gives a maximum of assurance, you can . . . require that inspectors have the right to go almost anywhere, any time, and demand any kind of documents. Iran has accepted this protocol and operating under it the International Atomic Energy Agency has found no evidence that it is developing a weapons programme. However, the protocol could be strengthened for states such as Iran whose leaders make Hitlerian pronouncements.
Given that it is possible, though difficult, to put in place a series of checks on Iran's nuclear ambitions, our leaders need to weigh very carefully the equivocal comfort that a so-called preventive strike may buy against the massive costs of mounting one. It is as certain as it can be that a strike against Iran would inflame Muslim hatred throughout the Middle East and beyond. It would interrupt oil supplies and disorganise the world economy. It would swell the insurgency in Iraq, multiply the numbers of terrorists and strengthen their determination to exact a terrible vengeance, especially on Israel. It would be against every counsel of prudent statesmanship. The danger is that we will drift into war because we lack the will and imagination to create institutions to make peace safe.
The threat posed by Iran has been grossly exaggerated will be debated tomorrow at the Royal Geographical Society in one of a series of Times debates. www.intelligencesquared.com
The Royal Geographical Society is going talk it over. Harumph, spot on, jolly good, yaaaas . . . .
That shouldn't take many more days/weeks/months than the Ents debating whether Merry and Pippin are, or are not, small Orcs.
The Royal Geographical Society... how many embedded, covert agents do they have in Iran?
The Madness of allowing an irrational unstable government to assemble or buy nukes...
Robert Skidelsky is a pussy. Pure and simple.
Israel has been caught short before.....
the next time muzzies will pay for it....BIG TIME....
LOL. Exactly. Good thing the world has these fine folks to watch the fort for us, aye?
If the stakes weren't so high, I would just say let Iran build (and probably use) nukes, just so we could hold it over the left forever.
In actual fact prevailing winds would probably put much of the fallout over Iran. And of course the Palis would have no where to live. Or "I was a teenage mutant islamo-fascist."
Has this fellow bothered to listen to the President and the war minister of Iran. We can't take them at their word? I have heard tell of a fellow named Hitler who spoke so wildly that most Englishmen assumed HE did not mean what he said. They were wrong.
LOL. All their karma are belong to them.
As crazy as it sounds, a great number of people think that people like this fellow in Iran only bluster because they are afraid of us. In other words, it's our fault that he's an a**. I'm stunned when I hear leftists criticize Bush for depending on the EU and the UN rather than having direct talks with Iran. Is it possible for them to be any more hypocritical?
Far be it for Iran to break the law.
No it isn't, the President of their country said he already has 40 thousand troops embedded in western countries for homicide bombing if they get bombed.
Seems that when their President announces he already has 40 thousand troops inside countries to strike, that he made a declaration of war already.
What are 40k troops doing with murderous intentions in western countries to begin with? Shows his long term intent right there.
Makes him a righteous target for assassination as well IMO.
"First, it needs to be trumpeted that a military strike now would be illegal under international law."
There is no international law. At least, until there is an elected legislative body that represents everyone on Earth and can pass binding global-scale law.
Until then, hippies should either stfu about "international law" or call the international cops to enforce it.
LOL, that would make a great tagline.
If you read this carefully, the guy has no answer.
North Korea developed its nuclear weapons while IAEA inspectors sat just down the road, watching carefully to make sure it didn't happen.
IAEA has done little but provide plausible deniability for regimes trying to develop nuclear weapons. I'm not sure why we should be expected to play their game. Countries planning to develop nukes don't take them seriously, so why should we? Because inspections with teeth mean inspections backed by military force, while guys like Skidelsky imagine inspections as a substitute for military force.
Inspections with teeth would also require a mature intelligence capability, penetrating even the president's cabinet to know what the regime's hidden plans and motives are, if they are to go where ever they want when ever they want, this requires tremendous intel resources. We already know the sad condition of CIA, and its good to remember that it was considered scandalous when UN inspectors in Iraq were accused of having connections to CIA and MI6.
Of course they did, or ought to, where else would their intelligence come from?
We can't prevent a country from getting nukes indefinitely. We can act to prevent a terrorist regime from getting them, and living long enough to use them. India has them, and we don't care. Someday down the road, Iran will have them, and when they have sane people at the helm, we won't care either. We're not there yet.
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