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Overeaters, smokers and drinkers: the doctor won't see you now
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| April 18, 2006
| NICHOLAS KOHLER AND BARBARA RIGHTON
Posted on 04/25/2006 9:20:47 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
To: ConservativeMind
"Doctors should have the right to refuse patients just as business owners should be able to turn away potential customers."
Not if they're taking government money. You seem to be under the delusion that this is the free market we're talking about. :)
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posted on
04/25/2006 9:49:39 AM PDT
by
dljordan
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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posted on
04/25/2006 9:51:08 AM PDT
by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
To: fanfan
You're welcome. BTW, what are the taxes on Cigs and booze in Canada?
If you know.
The US and state Gov. make more on them than the producers!!
To: Bikers4Bush
"If the transplant is for a liver that the person ruined by drinking it's no shock. Same thing happens here in the U.S."
There is a shortage of livers (and other organs) for transplanting. They should go to people who won't abuse them.
However, what should we do when (if) the technology for growing new organs is perfected, and there is no longer a shortage? In the U.S. drinkers would probably be able to get insurance, if they paid a large premium. Rich boozers could just pay all the costs out of pocket. Canadians have no alternative to the public health monopoly (except to travel to the U.S. for the services).
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Yep, but by god don't you dare tell an Illegal Alien he can't have free Health Care.
Racist pigdogs.
/sarc
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posted on
04/25/2006 9:52:58 AM PDT
by
Leatherneck_MT
(An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
To: RSmithOpt
But half of the things you mention directly relate to the part of the article that stated "This is an issue of behaviour and choice," . . . "People can choose to alter their behaviour, can choose to go to the gym more often -- these are choice things."
To: Springman
"Sin taxes" (taxes on booze & tobacco) are much, much higher in Canada. Cigarette smuggling from the U.S. is a big business.
To: Springman
In addition to federal and provincial sales taxes, alcohol in Canada also is subject to an excise, or "sin," tax at both levels. The average total tax on alcohol in Canada is 83 percent, as opposed to 44 percent in the U.S., according to the Association of Canadian Distillers.
Source
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:01:14 AM PDT
by
fanfan
(FR is the best/biggest news gathering entity in the whole known history of the world. Thanks Jim.)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
There are other ways the monopolies restrict access. My father in law (who by the way, was active, non-smoker, healthy eater) contracted colon cancer in his early 50's. Because he would not submit to chemo, the doctor refused to give him any other care. The same thing happens stateside, or course, but here it is easier to switch doctors.
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:02:10 AM PDT
by
sittnick
(There is no salvation in politics.)
To: Springman
In Canada, between 63 and 79 per cent of the price of a package of cigarettes is tax. In New York, by comparison, the tax on cigarettes is 38 per cent.
Source
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:03:53 AM PDT
by
fanfan
(FR is the best/biggest news gathering entity in the whole known history of the world. Thanks Jim.)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Awwwwww, man!
I'm so bummed out!
You mean to tell me it's not just smokers any more?
Who'da thought?
< /sarc >
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:05:54 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Drinkers and smokers get no care, but the chronically non-productive still get everything free, yes?
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:07:38 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Cigarette smuggling from the U.S. is a big business. A guy that I knew got arrested on his third trip with a RV filled with cigs. They confiscated the camper and threated him with 10 years. He rolled on his cananadian accomplices and got nothing but an official "never come to Canada again". The real kicker is...It wasn't his RV, so he got off with nothing.
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:07:43 AM PDT
by
Dosa26
To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
It seems you've learned the lessons of history very well.
The Terri Schiavo case was a wake-up call to me. The so-called "right-to-die" has been morphed into the "right to euthanize". Canadians worry about the effects an aging population will have on our health care system. I fear that we've already seen the solution.
To: ConservativeMind
"Doctors should have the right to refuse patients just as business owners should be able to turn away potential customers. ... and everyone should have the right to choose whom they associate with socially or business wise, but...
That is now bigotry, profiling, discrimination or meanspiritedness and forbidden by by law
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:09:24 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
To: ConservativeMind
"Doctors should have the right to refuse patients just as business owners should be able to turn away potential customers."
Doesn't that violate the Hippocratic Creed - to save lives?
Ooops! I forgot. They'll willing kill babies via abortion.
Ah, just think of all the money they WON'T be making. These are just the folks they can have a field day with!
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:10:59 AM PDT
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
A terrifying situation. Next, doctors won't accept patients over 80. Or 70. Or 55. Doctors with waiting lists might decide to work only on pretty women. Canada seems crazy to me.
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:11:24 AM PDT
by
Veto!
(Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
To: ConservativeMind
We can greatly limit the problems we would need to bring to a doctor. As conservatives, such a "can-do" attitude should already be a part of each of us. Unfortunately, the New Deal has made self-sufficiency a punishable offense
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:15:04 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: cherry
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posted on
04/25/2006 10:18:53 AM PDT
by
chesley
(Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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