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US lesbian denied fertility treatment sues Catholic docs
Breitbart ^ | April 25, 2006

Posted on 04/26/2006 6:12:17 AM PDT by NYer

A woman whose doctors refused her infertility treatment because she is a lesbian has sued before California's Supreme Court, her attorney said.

"Our client's doctors' behavior goes against established medical ethics and violates California civil rights law," said Lambda Legal attorney Jennifer Pizer in a statement announcing the suit was filed on Monday.

"The doctors claim a right not to comply with California's civil rights law because they are fundamentalist Christians and they object to treating a lesbian patient the same way they treat other patients," the group said in a statement.

An appeals court overturned a trial court decision that Guadalupe Benitez was denied infertility treatment in violation of California law.

"Doctors are supposed to treat their patients, not make religious judgments about them," Benitez said in a statement.

"I trusted my doctors and then they humiliated my family and me by refusing to perform the insemination procedure after they'd been treating me and promising it to me for nearly a year," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: caglbt; catholic; cunnilingus; dyke; evildyke; fertility; filthydyke; filthyevildyke; guadalupebenitez; homosexualagenda; lesbian
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1 posted on 04/26/2006 6:12:19 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 04/26/2006 6:12:47 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
What was the exact procedure?
3 posted on 04/26/2006 6:15:11 AM PDT by Malacoda (The Posting Police need an enema.)
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To: NYer

"I trusted my doctors and then they humiliated my family and me by refusing to perform the insemination procedure after they'd been treating me and promising it to me for nearly a year," she said.

Ahhh, yes. I'm sure much greater than the humiliation of having daughter who is a lesbian.


4 posted on 04/26/2006 6:15:17 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus

ping


5 posted on 04/26/2006 6:15:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NYer

Why didn't she just get another doctor? Was she trying for an immaculate conception, of sorts?


6 posted on 04/26/2006 6:15:57 AM PDT by x1stcav (Illegals go home! I'll mow the damned lawn myself!)
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To: NYer

No freedom of choice for this doctor!


7 posted on 04/26/2006 6:18:10 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: NYer

They should have rejected her request up front, instead of waiting a year. Having said that, she should have shopped another doctor, or even gone the DIY route, there are websites out there that will tell her how to use a turkey baster, seriously.


8 posted on 04/26/2006 6:19:03 AM PDT by Paradox (Removing all Doubt since 1998!)
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To: NYer

Article starts with "infertility treatment", then at the very last it changes to "insemination".

It looks like they have treated her "infertility", so why doesn't person just go on and get laid?


9 posted on 04/26/2006 6:20:26 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: NYer
"I trusted my doctors and then they humiliated my family and me by refusing to perform the insemination procedure after they'd been treating me and promising it to me for nearly a year," she said.

This is the part where the story becomes fuzzy.
My guess is that perhaps, for nearly a year, she kept it a secret that she was a lesbian. Otherwise the Catholic doctors wouldn't have given her the time of day.

My other guess is that she deliberately set this whole thing up just to bring this case forward to the public and the courts.

The questions will be asked: so why did you go to Catholic doctors when you know what an ABOMIATION your lesbian lifestyle is to them? Why did you ask for something you KNOW they wouldn't do?

Smells like a set-up to me. I think it stinks of the ACLU.

10 posted on 04/26/2006 6:23:01 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Article starts with "infertility treatment", then at the very last it changes to "insemination". It looks like they have treated her "infertility", so why doesn't person just go on and get laid?

By a MAN? Lol. Unclear on the concept.

11 posted on 04/26/2006 6:24:27 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: cdga5for4

12 posted on 04/26/2006 6:25:53 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: starfish923

"My other guess is that she deliberately set this whole thing up just to bring this case forward to the public and the courts."

I think you may be right. I think she got just what she wanted.


13 posted on 04/26/2006 6:27:29 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: NYer
A woman whose doctors refused her infertility treatment because she is a lesbian has sued before California's Supreme Court, her attorney said.

She doesn't want her case swept under the rug.

14 posted on 04/26/2006 6:27:38 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: NYer
"I trusted my doctors and then they humiliated my family and me by refusing to perform the insemination procedure after they'd been treating me and promising it to me for nearly a year," she said.

I think the doctors should have continued treating her......(but never actually "succeeding")......This way they would still make the money and the lezzes would not have known to go to another clinic.......

15 posted on 04/26/2006 6:28:14 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: NYer

How about she just try having one the old fashioned way. Wait, I forgot about that new "right" that everyones seems to think they are entitled to have children whenever they want.


16 posted on 04/26/2006 6:28:31 AM PDT by Gerish
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To: NYer
For one thing, insemination isn't an infertility treatment (if she were infertile, insemination wouldn't do a thing for her)---and for another thing, Catholics aren't "fundamentalist Christians" (which is a category of Protestant belief) --- and for a third thing, faithful practicing Catholic doctors don't do artificial insemination for anybody, period.

Other than that, the article's fine...

17 posted on 04/26/2006 6:29:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (A proud, practicing Homo sapiens.)
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To: Onelifetogive
"I trusted my doctors and then they humiliated my family and me by refusing to perform the insemination procedure after they'd been treating me and promising it to me for nearly a year," she said.

"...I felt so ashamed and humiliated, rather than simply finding another doctor, I mounted a lawsuit and promoted it with national media coverage."

18 posted on 04/26/2006 6:32:32 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
It looks like they have treated her "infertility", so why doesn't person just go on and get laid?

Exactly!

Note to all lesbians:

Sperm donor for Hire.

I'll vaccinate you quick so as not to compromise your lesbianism.

Satisfaction (mine) guaranteed.

19 posted on 04/26/2006 6:36:18 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: NYer

I can understand doctors being obligated to administer life-saving treatment. This, however, does not qualify. No one's life is in danger here, and there is no reason to force the doctors to act against their consciences.


20 posted on 04/26/2006 6:36:52 AM PDT by stormlead
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To: stormlead

also, its scary how "fundamentalist Christian" has become a lawyer-preferred smear phrase.


21 posted on 04/26/2006 6:38:35 AM PDT by stormlead
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To: NYer

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22 posted on 04/26/2006 6:39:47 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: stormlead
So where does it end? Talk about a slippery slope. Just waiting for the doctor who refuses to treat a Muslim. Or a doctor who refuses basic treatment to a homosexual. And so on... Kinda ironic, too, considering this Catholic doctor is, in a sense, playing God with fertility.

This is all getting ridiculous.

23 posted on 04/26/2006 6:42:30 AM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense
the Catholic doctor is attempting to NOT violate the tenets of his religious faith by NOT administering artificial insemination to a woman who cannot conceive naturally because her partner is ANOTHER FEMALE. God dealt with this situation by making it impossible for a pair of females to NATURALLY produce a child. so GOD is playing GOD in this case.

can you truly not see the difference between treating a muslim or homosexual for basic care and administering a procedure which involves the artificial creation of life, in contravention of one's particular religious beliefs?

24 posted on 04/26/2006 6:48:55 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: rintense
I don't see this as a slippery slope at all. This had nothing to do with "basic" or "life-saving" medical care. I doubt the doctors would have denied that at all. Furthermore, infertility can be caused by legit medical problems that can be treated. Her desire to be inseminated is only because she doesn't want to have sex with a man to get pregnant.

I agree with the other posters on this thread. Sounds like she kept her lesbo identity hidden. Gee, I don't even think they would have been treating her for infertility if they knew she WASN'T even having sex with a MAN.

25 posted on 04/26/2006 6:50:31 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: rintense
You are deceived by propaganda.

The article states that the doctors refused to artificially inseminate her.

Catholics do not believe in artificial insemination and will not perform this procedure on anyone, whether they are a sexual deviant or not.

Nor will they perform an abortion or a vasectomy or a tubal ligation or a sex-change operation.

This has nothing to do with refusing anyone basic, life-saving treatment - it has to do with refusing to perform immoral elective procedures no matter the religion, race or personal conduct of the individual requesting them.

26 posted on 04/26/2006 6:51:09 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: beaversmom

Here's one for you. Lesbo wants infertility treatment....can't figure out why she can't get pregnant without a man? Yep, she lied.


27 posted on 04/26/2006 6:52:38 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: rintense
Kinda ironic, too, considering this Catholic doctor is, in a sense, playing God with fertility.

the doctor is not "playing God."

Every developmentally human being has a reproductive faculty which may be healthy or which may be injured or diseased.

A doctor's job - to treat injuries or diseases - is not "playing God."

The Catholic reproductive doctor seeks to treat reproductive injuries or diseases in order to restore the ability of the patient to naturally procreate.

28 posted on 04/26/2006 6:54:27 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: cowboyway
Note to all lesbians: Sperm donor for Hire.

You better be careful what you wish for. My guess is, once you see your "dream girl", you'll have about as much success as putting an oyster in a slot machine.

29 posted on 04/26/2006 6:56:05 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (I miss President Reagan.)
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To: NYer
Lambda Legal(?)Press release

Medical News Today December 7, 2005.

SD Union Tribune article.

SF Gate article.

I don't see where it says they were Catholic.

30 posted on 04/26/2006 6:56:30 AM PDT by Jaded (The truthshall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: cdga5for4
Ahhh, yes. I'm sure much greater than the humiliation of having daughter who is a lesbian.

Well, then, a lot of good Republicans (Sonny Bono, Dick Cheney) have had to suffer. I've come to the conclusion that homosexuality is not a choice but a condition (much the same as some persons predisposed to alcoholism or bipolar affliction). That doesn't mean I condone the homosexual act but I certainly don't condemn gays or lesbians for being the way they are...and I don't believe that parents of gays or lesbians (one particular parent is a close friend and the other a relative of mine and both are conservatives) do either.

Doctors, IMHO, should be true to their Hippocratic Oath and provide medical services to the patient rather than judging them (that's God's job).

31 posted on 04/26/2006 6:57:22 AM PDT by meandog (Mohammad was not a prophet but a pedophile!)
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To: meandog

the hippocratic oath does NOT extend to ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION for heaven's sake, just like you can't claim that it includes BOOB JOBS!


32 posted on 04/26/2006 7:00:19 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: meandog

Artificial insemination is NOT a necessary treatment. It is an elective procedure.


33 posted on 04/26/2006 7:02:49 AM PDT by Jaded (The truthshall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: meandog
Doctors, IMHO, should be true to their Hippocratic Oath and provide medical services to the patient rather than judging them (that's God's job).

Spoken like a true liberal. The doctor wasn't judging them. He was refusing to let himself violate his own morals.

34 posted on 04/26/2006 7:03:14 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: AbeKrieger
you'll have about as much success as putting an oyster in a slot machine.

Where's that darn screen cleaner.........

35 posted on 04/26/2006 7:04:33 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: AbeKrieger

Oyster in a slot machine? LOL Where'd you get that?


36 posted on 04/26/2006 7:05:00 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: 2banana
"Our client's doctors' behavior goes against established medical ethics and violates California civil rights law,"

What about the civil rights of the Doctors?
37 posted on 04/26/2006 7:07:31 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

Amen to that! Conscientous objectors to war, are taken seriously, and if it is believed they are sincere, they are excused from "War"....the same folks that agree with "conscience" in that situation and others, would deny this Doctor the same right of conscience. The left really has no principals, they just make it up as they go along.


38 posted on 04/26/2006 7:12:01 AM PDT by ronnieb
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To: meandog
Doctors, IMHO, should be true to their Hippocratic Oath and provide medical services to the patient rather than judging them (that's God's job).

LOL! Refusing to inseminate someone violates the Hippocratic Oath?

You're unclear on the concept.

Patients, IMHO, should allow doctors to live by their consciences rather than hauling them before a judge for refusing to perform immoral elective procedures.

It's America - if you want a doctor with no morals, go find one and pay him to do your dirty work. A doctor is not a slave.

39 posted on 04/26/2006 7:17:53 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: NYer

I'm glad to see a doctor that stands up for his beliefs. I'm positive she could have found another doctor who had no ethical or moral problem with performing the procedure on her.


40 posted on 04/26/2006 7:18:26 AM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: rintense
Kinda ironic, too, considering this Catholic doctor is, in a sense, playing God with fertility.

No, the doctor is choosing to NOT play God with fertility. Boy, are you backwards...

41 posted on 04/26/2006 7:22:43 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: xsmommy
No I can't. Because the doctor is, in essence, violating his own religious beliefs by your own words- by making it impossible for ANY woman to produce a child. Their sexuality is irrelevant in your argument. By your own logic, the doctor is playing God with a heterosexual couple who, by the natural will of God, can not conceive a child.
42 posted on 04/26/2006 7:25:55 AM PDT by rintense
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To: cowboyway
I'll vaccinate you quick so as not to compromise your lesbianism.

LOL! No problem if they want to have a girlriend join in, either?

43 posted on 04/26/2006 7:26:32 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: pgyanke

Yep, I'm backwards alright.


44 posted on 04/26/2006 7:27:03 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Calpernia
Sounds a lot like a homosexual who came out of the closet, decided to get into the activism and now wants to be part of the secularization of the Catholic community by suing for something Catholics are forbidden to be a part of.

Degeneracy twists the mind into amazing gordian knots, that's why Paul said 'be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind! An amazing Christian woman was on Hannity's radio program yesterday: this young woman got into topless/bottomless dancing in a Florida city in order to have more spending money and be more independant from her parents; Christ came into her life and she manifests the transforming of her mind, without condemnation of the girls still trapped in that degneracy but unafraid to share her witness to His transforming Grace. Perhaps the lesbian female of this story should give The Grace of God in Christ a try before throwing her immortal spirit to further degeneracy and secularization ... if He cannot transform her, she will find that Evil is always waiting to suck her back down into degeneracy.

45 posted on 04/26/2006 7:27:16 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

>>>Sounds a lot like a homosexual who came out of the closet, decided to get into the activism

bttt!


46 posted on 04/26/2006 7:29:35 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: rintense

not at all, again, were it God's will for a heterosexual couple to have a child, they would be able to conceive. hey, infertility is a sad and painful thing. it has happened in my own family. but Catholics and other Christians, are entitled to their belief that it is GOD'S ROLE to create life, and not man's. to attempt to create life via artificial means IS PLAYING God's role. the hippocratic oath does not extend to elective procedures, the doctor should NOT be forced to compromise his religious beliefs. GOD creates life.


47 posted on 04/26/2006 7:34:46 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: rintense
by making it impossible for ANY woman to produce a child

Only if the doctor is performing sterilization on otherwise fertile women.

48 posted on 04/26/2006 7:35:52 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: jaydubya2

"What about the civil rights of the Doctors?"

Good point!

"....no law respecting an establishment of religion OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF..."


49 posted on 04/26/2006 7:40:11 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: meandog; xsmommy; Jaded; aimhigh
That doesn't mean I condone the homosexual act but I certainly don't condemn gays or lesbians for being the way they are... [emphasis added] and I don't believe that parents of gays or lesbians (one particular parent is a close friend and the other a relative of mine and both are conservatives) do either.

The issue is not about condemning anyone for being the way they are or about whether or not they or their parents had a choice in such. Rather the issue is about condemning someone for the way they behave. Behavior is a voluntary choice… (Otherwise, it is a psychosis and subject to psychiatric diagnosis and treatment.)

No one is a homosexual because of being the way they are. It is the fact that someone has acted on some internally felt desire that defines “being a homosexual.”

A man may have an internally felt desire to have violent intercourse with an unwilling woman. However, it is only if he actually does so that he becomes a rapist, i.e., in the absence of the act no one is a rapist. Similarly, if a supposed homosexual fails to act on his or her internally felt desire, then he or she does not qualify for the title, “homosexual,” either the male or female variety.

Any doctor would be within his or her rights to refuse to perform any purely elective, medical procedure on any particular patient. The doctor’s refusal requires no justification beyond his or her professional and personal judgment. A patient disagreeing with such a judgment is free to find another doctor who may not be so disinclined.

This woman’s law suit is a pure publicity stunt and should be dismissed as such.
50 posted on 04/26/2006 7:40:23 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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