Sen. Harry Reid, normally a Bush critic, had praise for the president after Tuesday's meeting.
One of those "A picture is worth a thousand words" moments.
Posted on 04/26/2006 12:54:22 PM PDT by EagleUSA
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush met Tuesday at the White House with a bipartisan group of senators to discuss ways to overhaul immigration, a chat that earned the president kudos from two men normally among his staunchest critics.
The discussion came as an immigration bill sits stalled in the Senate and as Majority Leader Bill Frist prepares to bring the issue back to the Senate floor by Memorial Day.
After the meeting, the senators said Bush expressed support for a package that would create a guest-worker program and would determine ways to address the status of more than 11 million illegal immigrants in the country. (Watch how many people favor legalizing immigrants who have been in the U.S. a long time -- 3:22)
Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy called the meeting a "bipartisan coming-together" and said, "We still have a ways to go, but I certainly appreciate the president's involvement and his willingness to be engaged."
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
How about seeking commonground with the people your higness, the same goes for the rest of the DC nobility.
How about seeking commonground with the people your higness...
-----
The thought never entered his mind. Fox has his Manchurian Candidate.
Anyone willing to admit it knows this is the topic of the day and EVERYONE is talking about it. Even the United States Senate is taking money AWAY from the Iraq War to fight this problem. I think that clearly shows it is a BIG DEAL!
However, any deal that Ted K. is for, I am against.
With no thought of securing the borders. Bah!
Sen. Harry Reid, normally a Bush critic, had praise for the president after Tuesday's meeting.
One of those "A picture is worth a thousand words" moments.
Bush has been over on the dark side for a while now.
What part of ILLEGAL does Washington not understand?
However, any deal that Ted K. is for, I am against.
------
And that is hard testimony to the singular fact that this is about VOTES. Notice there is no talk OF CLOSING THE BORDER. Just throwing more semi-useless border patrolmen and aircraft at a border that is so easy to cross, a blind man can do it. They don't want to close it...because that could cost VOTES. How tragic for America can it get?
To quote Rasmussen, "Before the immigration debate exploded on the national scene, Americans were evenly divided as to which political party they trusted more on the issue. After the earliest rounds of the debate, the GOP gained ground and were favored by a 37% to 31% margin.
Since then, Democrats have focused more attention on the enforcement side of the debate. DNC Chairman Howard Dean even stated that enforcement of the border is his party's top priority. As a result, Democrats appear to have won round two of the debate among the general public--42% now trust Dean's party more on this issue while 35% trust the GOP."
Politics makes for strange bedfellows. Laura should be concerned.
I know and I can't understand why the Republicans don't understand that. Do they really think all these illegal immigrants are going to vote Republican?
Time to call for a Peaceful Revolution.
Time to call for a Peaceful Revolution.
However he has not consulted the citizens, at least not the legal ones.
However he has not consulted the citizens, at least not the legal ones.
-----
He does not want to hear the truth from the REAL American people. Fox wins. He has his Manchurian Candidate right in the Oval office...
UCLA recently did a study on the relationship between farm wages and the price of produce (the proverbial $5 a head of lettuce, and all that). per the study, farm wages account for 15% of the price at the market. in other words, of your $1.00 head of lettuce or pound basket of strawberries, farm wages are about 15 cents.
okay, everyone, let's put on our thinking caps ... what happens then if you double wages to $20 an hour, or treble them to $30, or, or, well, why not? times four to $40 an hour?
answer: head of lettuce costs a buck and a quarter. (yawn.) and, and ... all of a sudden we got a million or two american citizens in california off the welfare roles and making 80k a year, instead of a bunch of illegals living off the taxpayers. why is that such a bad idea?
and ... the $5 a head lettuce canard? the study concluded that farm wages would have to rise to $300 or $500 an hour (can't remember, but it was hundreds) for that to happen, and for that kinda dough, not only would i be the first in line to pick strawberries, but i would wager that a lot of people reading this thread would be right behind me in line.
and who would dispute that all of the farm positions would be filled by competent, capable, grateful americans ecstatic to have such a job at levels considerably less than $300 an hour. $100? $50? get it?
i'm in favor of a wall. enforcement. deportation. employers in jail. meaningful stuff.
but the answer in a way is simpler: we all pay thirty or forty cents more for a head of lettuce (big deal) and the problem goes away. moreover, potential prosperity for millions of unskilled and young americans.
and this is the crux of the problem with the whole guest worker nonsense which works as follows: place an ad: strawberry pickers for $4 an hour. no takers. (gee, whiz.) okay. then the farmer gets to bring in as much third-world trash as he wishes with the blessings of the federal government. huh?!?
well, how 'bout this instead: place another ad: $20 an hour for strawberry pickers? or $30? or whatever market forces require?
importing third-world slave labor, legally or otherwise, to undermine the basic economic law of supply and demand is not the answer. it's the problem.
why not an ad, instead of strawberry picker for four bucks an hour, oh, say, school teacher for four bucks an hour? or store manager for four bucks an hour? or engineer or doctor or nurse or tire guy for four bucks? (you know, the jobs americans won't do.)
"oh, i advertised but couldn't fill the positions. so now i get to import guatemalens."
all of them.
the answer is not to import cheap labor. the answer is to raise the pay of americans to the level that is necessary to attract and keep qualified people. simple. everyone (except george bush and the senate) knows this. (actually, they do, too. but they lie.) even harry reid. my five year old daughter knows this. it is an economic law, immutable as gravity.
and finally, what is this smug, superior attitude of everyone that strawberry pickers deserve to be abused with low wages, disrespect, etc.? what is inferior about a job (the jobs) that place food on our tables? that feed our nation as well as others?
just 'cause it doesn't take a degree from berkeley? (which i had thought we had all agreed was not necessarily a good thing?!?)
why not reward the people who actually do something good for each of us every day (putting strawberries on our tables) instead of the swine brainwashing our children to believe crap (professors at berkeley). who says a teacher should make more? (cushy indoor job. don't have to get your hands dirty. work half the year. etc. face it: if we weren't f*****g with the laws of economics, strawberry pickers WOULD be paid more than teachers.)
If Ted the Swimmer and Reid approve of Bush's actions, we KNOW we have a problem. The last time Dems approved of something Bush did, we got Harriet Miers.
By the way, this was a SPECIAL meeting. As noted on an earlier post today, certain Senators - all Republicans - were NOT invited. Senators who disagreed with Bush's open door policy for illegal invaders were kept out.
Obviously, none of the Dems would disagree - besides, they're toobusy signing up illegals to vote in 2006 so they can impeach Bush.
Does any of this amke sense??
I don't think so.
Do you have a source for that? That is interesting.
What about restaurant and hotel workers? Landscapers? etc...
Senators who disagreed with Bush's open door policy for illegal invaders were kept out.
------
Yes, and it makes sense. We have a tyrant in the Oval Office, when it comes to his support for ILLEGAL immigrants and his buddy, Vincente Fox. Bush is not only hurting the country, but the elections of 2006 and 2008 are going to be ugly. He is setting up the ThugoRats and destroying our soverignty at the same time -- all at the expense of the American citizen, AGAINST THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF CITIZENS, just to satisfy his One World Latino love for ONE AMERICA.
Take a hard look at what is happening America -- a REAL HARD look.
"Moderate" "Republicans" are actually getting praises from "moderate" democRats.
THE UNION IS SAVED!
Bend over everyone, all you "extremist" "fringers" out there, and get ready to take another one "for the team".
"Take a hard look at what is happening America -- a REAL HARD look."
I have. Its heads we loose, tails they win.
Only a third party can save the day but both existing parties have an unconstitutional stranglehold on local and national elections and press coverage.
If the rules of today existed in the mid-19th Century, we would have the Democrats and Whigs to choose from - which might not be so bad after all.
It's time to face facts. This guy just doesn't get it!
It appears that voting repubican in 2006 is another job Americans will not do.
A Peaceful Revolution ...
Yes, and it will happen this coming November.
>Do they really think these illegal immigrants are going to vote Republican?<
I prefer calling them "invaders", and no, they don't. But they DO know the greedy, law breaking bosses who hire the invaders WILL vote Republican. :o(
U.S. territory is now "common ground" for all immigrants, legal and illegal...
Seeking common ground? Who are they kidding here, they've had it all along. It's always been amnesty for them and something they've agreed on from the beginning.
BOHICA!
Bush's bill in 2006 is far better than the 2009 bill to come from Dem Congress and Dem President.
>Even the United States Senate is taking money AWAY from the Iraq War to fight this problem. I think that clearly shows it is a BIG DEAL!
Do you think that the televised demonstrations had anything to do with this?
I am sure it played a role. The demonstrations, especially some of the signs and flags they were carrying, helped to open the eyes of many Americans. I think the demonstrations had the opposite effect than what the illegal immigrants were hoping for.
Better yet, give all these political whores Mexican citizenship.......it seems a lot more important to them than does American citizenship.......they are willing to give that away at the drop of a hat.
I guess so from reid's perspective. Bush is giving away the farm.
I guess so from reid's perspective. Bush is giving away the farm.
------
The only reason that Reid said the meeting was good is that Bush is selling us out and the Libs see **VOTES**, which they will get. Bush is a traitor, to the people of this country, and to his own party, members of which HE excluded from the meeting because they were rightfully against giving amnesty and destroying our soverignty.
Time to call for a Peaceful Revolution.
O.K. I'm with you!
They also discussed the withdrawl of troops from Iraq.
Pretty much the entire democratic party is for instant citizenship. The dems will FORCE bush to go along with him, if Bush is to avoid Impeachment in the next 3 years. Therefore the Dems have a de facto majority in both houses right now.
It is moderate Republicans allying with the likes of Diane Fienstine, Tammy Baldwin, Dennis Kusinich, and Howard Dean. It makes me sick.
Putting the Dems in power will only force Bush to do more undeserable things to keep from being impeached, such as a full withdrawl from Iraq/Afghanistan and having to tell the nation that the war was a "Mistake" when it really was not. Also, Bush will have to allow for welfare to be given to illegals, and will have to remove the Minutemen from the border or face impeachment.
You can't actually believe this can you.
Most illegals are in the lower income bracket. On the average, people who make low salaries, will vote for Democrats. And we all know why.
sw
If Bush is this weak on Immigration, and Bush wants to keep his image clean for main stream historians, he will capitulate to the Democrats and moderate Republicans on the war issue if the Demorats win in 2006.
Ain't it grand.
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi...Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid...get used to it, folks. Sadly, it's an inevitability.
What do you use to read the president's mind; an Ouija board, a scrying mirror, a crystal ball, Tarot cards...all of these things?
*sigh*
So, what label is on the bottle you're drinking from? I'd sure like to try some of that stuff.
And a move that's going to cost him dearly in historical hindsight and with his base. Does the word "lead" ever pop into the president's mind? I'm really starting to think that his "leading" us into Iraq was less out of a sense of resolve and doing what's right and more out of a sense of realizing that it would be popular.
"It is important that we reform a system that is not working. It's important that we uphold the values of the United States of America. It's important that we treat people with dignity," the president said. "I strongly believe that we have a chance to get an immigration bill that is comprehensive in nature to my desk before the end of this year."
How about treating existing Americans with some damn dignity? For a change!
And though the president maintained his opposition to what he called "automatic amnesty" for illegal immigrants already in the country, he also expressed support for "a bill that says somebody who's working here on a legal basis has the right to get in line to become a citizen."
Does he truly believe that most Americans are this stupid?
Apparently so.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.