Posted on 04/27/2006 1:52:11 PM PDT by Nachum
"Rice is a bumbling idiot."
And if you wouldn't make statements like that, people wouldn't know how ignorant you really are.
Thank you. Your reply to tomahawk was much nicer than mine. (See Post #61)
[A border deal brokered here in November by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice helped facilitate a major planned suicide operation...]
It seems as if their is always someone to blame. If Isreal would just handle their own problems, I'm sure they would live in peace and freedom.
[She and Bush are creating terrorist havens in the Middle East, including in Gaza and the West Bank.]
I'm sure the Taliban and Saddam have a different view. And you might want to look at a history book... terrorism in the West Bank and Gaza has been happening for some time, even before Bush.
[Pay attention to what Rice and Bush are doing re Iran: Nothing. ]
Why don't you go over there, big mouth! You seem more then willing to run into war, go for it!
It is important not to mix The Prsident's official duties with his personal faith . If everybody did that America would be Europe !
Therefore, she is worse then a bumbling idiot.
How has Rice made the situation for Israel worse than the situation she inherited from the clinton administration?
Come on. You can do better than that! Sounds like one of the cleaner things a DU'er would say about Ms Rice.
In your analogy, the Bank President would actually be Israel as they own the bank. Rice would be their biggest customer who is using her clout to influence the Bank President.
Is the customer to blame if the Bank President is so wimpy that they do whatever the customer wants?
And the Bank President didn't order security to leave, he changed security companies.
Is it the customer's fault, or even the Bank President's fault that the security guards ran away like wussies when the robbers showed up?
Republicans are in danger of alienating their Christian base with this nonsense.
I suppose so. My wife told me I was being too hard on him, and she is probably right :) I suppose I just consider Islam my enemy - not just from a Christian point of view, but also as a classical liberal.
For one, there is now a semi sovereign terrorist entity that is daily firing missiles at Israel.
That's a hell of question? How can Israel be worse off today then it was under Clinton with both a Republican Administration and post 9/11? And yet it is.
Read anything I have written for a year on the subject and you would see that I spare no criticism of the chicken s**t Israeli Government whose policies will doom Israel.
Those policies include allowing themselves to be pressured to suicide by this Administration.
Similar to the mixture of ridicule and contempt one aquires to for those who resort to simple-minded labels like "kool aid drinkers" for those who dare not to join their attacks on Bush, Rice or other republicans in general.
Some of us believe loyalty to politicians should last just as long as they do the right things.
Others believe what politicans do is unimportant just as long as the carry the right label.
And some of us are tired of self-righteous political puritans who turn on their leaders at the drop of a hat when they fail to agree with their personal position on EVERY single issue under the sun.
Such unbending and self absorbed people don't know definition of loyalty.
Others believe what politicans do is unimportant just as long as the carry the right label.
Another unfair characterization of those you disagree with as "kool aid drinkers" and mindless followers with absolutely no personal moral convictions on anything.
I don't know a single person on FR who falls into this category.
I guess it's all in how you look at politics...and loyalty.
Who owes who loyalty?
With rare exceptions the people don't clamor for a certain leader. We don't go hat in hand and beg some person to become our leader.
They come to us. They make the promises. They appeal to what parochial interests we have as a group and as individuals. A party is formed when the group's interest mesh more or less although we still retain particular interests that are more controlling.
So to some Republicans, they better get the right promises on Abortion. To other taxes. To some Israel. Usually it a combination of several factors.
And if we trust the person, they get our vote and are rewarded with power, the big house, the big plane, lots and lots of good stuff.
We don't get the good stuff. We get, we assume, what was promised.
Who owes who loyalty?
The only loyalty that I see ever owing a political figure is that if he/she is fighting for what he promised, then you don't abandon him/her during the fight- if he is keeping to the fight promised.
Mu mother didn't trust George W Bush where Israel was concerned. I convinced her that he was different, that he could be trusted on Israel. I fooled myself, I ignored cues of the first term. She voted for him in 2004. I regret what I did. My mother is smarter then me.
For Israel issues and other reasons, George W Bush, the politician, no longer has my support. He has been disloyal to my vote and trust.
George Bush is the best friend Israel has EVER had in the White House. IF you say otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
Sharon himself said Israel had never had a better friend in the White House than Bush. ``We never had such cooperation in everything as we have with the current administration.''
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