Posted on 04/28/2006 4:35:11 AM PDT by EastCobbRules
'American Hiroshima' linked with Iran attack Pakistani journalist who met bin Laden confirms al-Qaida nukes, says they may already be in U.S.
By Paul L. Williams and David Dastych © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
Osama bin Laden recording released on al-Jazeera network
Al-Qaida has already obtained nuclear suitcase weapons from the Russian black market, weapons tested in Afghanistan in 2000, and they may have already been forward-deployed inside the U.S., according to the only journalist to interview Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri in the wake of Sept. 11.
Last week, Hamid Mir's credibility skyrocketed when he accurately predicted in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin and later in WND the imminent release of a new recorded communiqué from bin Laden through al-Jazeera, the Arabic TV network. Two days later, bin Laden's tape was the focus of international news coverage.
"If you think that my information and analysis about bin Laden's location is correct," said Hamid Mir, "then please don't underestimate my analysis about his nuclear threat also."
Mir said that he met with an Egyptian engineer last week who lost an eye after one of bin Laden's nuclear tests in the Kunar province of Pakistan. The Pakistani journalist said the encounter with the engineer greatly disturbed and depressed him since it provided further assurance that a nuclear nightmare for America is about to dawn.
Mir believes that an "American Hiroshima" will occur as soon as the U.S. launches an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.
"Al-Qaida and Iran," he says, "have a long, secret relationship." "American Hiroshima" is the name al-Qaida leaders chose for their long-planned nuclear attack on the U.S.
The relationship between Iran and bin Laden dates back to June 21, 1996, when bin Laden attended a terror summit in Tehran. The gathering attracted terror leaders from various places throughout the world, including Ramadan Shallah (the Palestinian Islamic Jihad), Ahmad Salah (Egyptian Islamic Jihad), Imad al-Alami and Mustafa al-Liddawi (Hamas), Ahmad Jibril (Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine), Abdallah Ocalan (the Kurdish People Party), Muhammad Ali Ahmad (al Qaida), and Imad Mugniyah (Hezbollah). The summit resulted in the creation of the "Committee of Three" that would meet on a regular basis for the "coordination, planning and execution of attacks" against the United States and Israel. The committee members were Ahmad Salah, Imad Mugniyah and bin Laden.
Mir's position that al-Qaida's nuclear weapons may have already been forward-deployed to the United States confirms the report of Sharif al-Masri, a key al-Qaida operative who was arrested in Pakistan in November 2000.
Al Masri, an Egyptian national with ties to al-Zawahiri, said that al-Qaida had made arrangements to smuggle nuclear weapons and supplies to Mexico. From Mexico, he said, the weapons were to be transported across the border and into the United States with the help of a Latino street gang.
Mir also maintains that numerous sleeper agents are in place in major cities throughout the United States to prepare for the nuclear holocaust. Many of these agents, he says, are Algerians and Chechens who obtained European passports and are posing as Christian and Jews.
He further says that many of these agents have been in the United States since bin Laden's issuance of his "Declaration of War on Americans Occupying the Country of the Two Holy Places." That fatwa was issued Aug. 23, 1996.
What is giving the lunatic president of Iran the confidence? He is insane (obviously) - or might at least HE think this is true?
these cretins must be exterminated
If true wouldn't they (suit case nukes)have a radiation signature?
Thank you, Jimmy Carter.
I am obviously not an expert ... but I sense the false male macho Islamic bravado that turns out to be a bunch of Shiite in the end.
6 --- 6 --- 6 .
Bush would rather cower behind the skirts of the U.N.
He has become a pathetic figure.
They might believe they have nukes in our country, but I suspect Al Qaeda is reaching the point where it is more bluster and bluff than substance.
If there were nukes in our country, they'd have used them before the last election. They'd have used them to try and get our President. The fact that they haven't used them yet, means they don't have them, or can't get them into the country.
Of course, now that the liberal leakers have demolished the effectiveness of our secret interrogation prisons, and our eavesdropping program... It just got a heck of a lot harder to stop terrorist attacks aimed at American soil.
I have no doubt that you are right.
Good morning. :)
Good morning, you are up really early. Are you wearing your Bunny Slippers? LOL
Just about.
I get up for work at 4:30 (stockmarket) but taking a vacation day. Sitting in bed with PowerBook and Fidel chichuahua pup and his sidekick Charo.
World Nut Daily have been pushing Nuke Suitcase bomb stories even before they were pushing Y2K stories.
Mostly in agreement with you. My only difference is with targeting. We may be the Great Satan but we're #2 on the target list. If they had nuke(s) Israel would be a parking lot. They are single minded in their hatred, so there is no way they would pass on that opportunity.
I don't know if I buy this. Lots of folks in government are going around pounding their chests and saying "see, we've got 'em on the run because we haven't been hit since 9/11".
One thing a lot of folks seem to forget is the plot that lead to 9/11 was YEARS in the making. Our enemy is patient and willing to wait until the time is right and I think that is exactly what is happening now.
Joseph Farah / WordNetDaily has been pushing this suitcase nuke story for years. I think those suitcase nukes, if they ever existed, wound up in the lost/unclaimed luggage department at the airport.
I don't know, but would think so if they were unshielded, but not much if shielded. I don't see your point. Surely it is not that they could not possibly be in the country because of that.
Family values don't stop at the US/Mexican border and it appears neither do suitcases nukes or terrorists. Thanks alot Washington D.C.
I agree with you on that actually. I was just running with the premise outlined in the article that we were the target.
At the moment, I'm sure the terrorists think that if they can take us out, the world won't blink when they take out Israel. Taking out the U.S. would be key in securing mass support for attacking Israel anyhow. If anything, they'd threaten and bully the Muslims into joining or dying... using nuclear bully sticks.
What I think is most likely is that if Iran gets nuclear weapons, it will hold its own cities hostage against American action. If we bomb their nuclear program, they kill a few million Iranians, and maybe nuke Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq in the bargain. That way, they can make it look like our fault.
Exactly correct Thermalseeker.
The reporter is claiming he has information that indicates that the planning for this attack has been a decade (10 years) in the planning.
So yes, before Y2k...
The Germans didn't get it in WWI. The Japanese and Germans didn't get it in WWII. The Muslims don't get it now. But they will.
How long after manufacture does a suitcase bomb last and still be effective?
However, these threads have been beaten to death for a long time.
If they bought (such a thing) as a Unicorn-produced Suitcase Nuke from the FSU Flea Market, the initiator and the implosion lenses are so degraded by now that it would be a dirty bomb, not a fission weapon.
But it's the thought that counts. It would give us a hunting license with no bag limit. By "Us", I do not neccesarily mean "The Government".
There is no doubt in my mind that if they had the suit case nukes they would have used them by now....
unfortunately you are correct sir
I'm pretty sure that the existence of Soviet 'suitcase nukes' has been thorughly debunked. Not that they didn't explore the idea, but the best they could come up with was still the size of several footlockers, and very, very heavy. And the small mass of fissible (fissile?) material meant that they would decay into ineffectiveness relatively quickly so that they would have to be 'refreshed' with new material frequently, which was a real pain, since these weapons were of course being held in reserve for decades against a time of war with the West. They just proved too impractical, and were disassembled.
A dirty bomb, on the other hand, would be easier. But it would not produce a 'Hiroshima'.
Don't they put the components together right before they are to be used?
These idiots don't understand what would happen to all of them if a nuke took out an American city.For starters,all Muslims in the country would become targets for the rest of us.Iran would be vaporized,maybe Mecca and Medina too.
I remember a while back there was discussion about the stability of these suitcase nukes. From what I remember, it is so difficult and expensive to keep these things on ice. Most Governments in the world could not do it let alone a terror cell.
The terrorists are far less patient now. They can't afford to be patient when their operations get shut down on a regular basis. They have to be operating under the assumption that if they don't use it they're going to lose it. So if they haven't used it yet, they either don't have it or they're waiting for a better time than all the opportunities they've already let slip past.
The terrorists could easily bomb a South American country, a European city, or an Asian city, more easily than bomb an American city.
9/11 altered everything for them. They expected America to be weak. They expected us to get on with our lives, apologize for offending them, launch a few missiles at some empty tempts, and forget. They didn't expect the clamp down on terrorists and their activities, or the invasion of Afghanistan, and certainly not the invasion of Iraq. They lost the advantage of the being the aggressor when they made the incorrect assumption that because America is an infidel nation that we are therefore weak. Electing Clinton twice ensured that the terrorists would think we were weak enough to decapitate with the attacks on 9/11. Who would elect a weak willed, opportunist, immoral sex junky twice to the White House, and then applaud him? The liberal media ensured that the terrorist perception of America was one of amoral, pleasure junkies.
If there is one man on the planet the terrorists hate the most, it is President Bush. If they could get at him they would, because it would be difficult, and it would gain them much respect in their circles and with Muslims around the world. Of course, the Muslims would find out what a nice man our President really is when they meet his successor... Cheney.
There is possibly only one reason that would hold back the terrorists form using nuclear weapons in the United States, and that is a glimmer of rationality. A nuke in any American city would result in the demolition of most of the Middle East power structure. It would mean a full mobilization of the United States, up to and including a draft. The invasion of Syria and Iran. It would mean the end of fundamentalist power.
If they're rational enough to realize that, if they do possess nuclear weapons, then they're rational enough to realize that holding their own populations hostage would be more effective of stilling our hand than attacking us or attempting to hold our populations hostage.
These people can't make a reliable toaster, or a VidCam smaller than a 1940's refridgerator.
Uh, where is the proof of this?? It's kind of hard to conceal a test of a nuclear weapon. It tends to leave unmistakable traces behind. Since our troops have been pretty much all over Afghanistan chasing the Taliban, I suspect they would have found said evidence, if it existed.
And WND continues to fish...
Lets say they do have a nuke, and that they've kept it under wraps all this time instead of using it (which is highly doubtful - they would have used it so they didn't take the risk of losing it before they got what they wanted out of it).
So now they nuke LA or NY.
What happens then?
Well I'd guess a whole lot would happen.
I'd guess we would utterly destroy Iran, NK, Syria and anyone else we suspected as a possible source. The public would demand no less.
Hardly a winning move from the terrorist types.
Assuming you mean all mudslimes ABSOLUTLY!
Non-story....the tritium triggers would be ineefective at this point....
Now, new nukes (not suitcase) specifically atomic bombs similiar to the Hiroshima bomb are relatively easy to manufacture with a decent lab. Although large by today's standards and low for the yield would still be deadly and could easily be hidden in a lead lined container the size of a small mini-van.
In Disinformation, Richard Miniter did research behind the idea of suitcase nukes.
Apparently, the nukes are the size of three gym lockers and have all been accounted for.
Iran may still have nuclear capability, but probably not the mythical suitcase kind.
Yep, they're riding this one all the way in like Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove.
They probably purchased a couple of bombs from North Korea to tide them over while they are waiting for their own program to come on line. Ahmadinejad's bluster is being fueled by the tacit but unmistakable message liberal American politicians and the MSM are sending him: "After Iraq, we are unwilling to take preventative action again. We will accept a first strike before committing to military action."
Folks, this man thinks martyrdom is a "beautiful" thing..and even what passes for a pragmatist, Rafsanjahni(sp?) basically has advocated nuking Israel on the argument that the Muslim world would take "acceptable" losses in return. Say what you want about the Soviets...I never heard them speak like that.
Delado Iran Est
The only thing worse than the the World Nut whipping this thing constantly is the fact that Freepers keep posting it to FR.
It would be worse if it was prefaced by.... I got this in an e-mail.
Worrl Nust Daily Suitcase Nuke 
I predict that the Sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning. If this prediction comes true, please don't underestimate my analysis that it will explode the day after that.
Sheesh.
If AQ really had a nuke already waiting inside the US they'd have detonated it at the earliest possible time rather than risk being caught with it for the sake of setting it off at some significant moment.
As people explain every time this moonbat claim is trotted out again, "suitcase nukes" require frequent high-tech maintenance to maintain them in usable condition. Just for starters, the tritium used to "spike" the reaction (thus reducing the mass required to go supercritical) rapidly (12-year half-life) decays into helium-3 (an isotope that absorbs neutrons, thus dampening out the chain reaction) -- thus, the tritium has to be replaced frequently to flush out the He-3 buildup.
That said, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Russian Mafia sold some of these guys a bunch of pinball machine parts stuffed with medical radioactive waste, or if some ambitious cell leader simply spun a tale about having possession of a "suitcase nuke".
A year, tops. See previous message.
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So, let's martyr his butt, beautifully!
We need to start taking out the craziest of the dangerous leaders; Ahmedinejad, Kim Jong Il, etc., with plausible deniability. It ain't murder if it's self defense, folks.
Of course, the American left would want President Bush taken out, 'cause everyone knows that he is the greatest danger on the face of the earth...
< /sarcasm >
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