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Hamad Mir - "Terrorists will Use Nukes in America if U.S. Bombs Iran!"
Terrorism Press COnference ^ | 4-28-06 | Bob J

Posted on 04/28/2006 9:03:39 AM PDT by Bob J

In a just concluded debate and press conference, author and FBI Consultant Paul Williams and Jeff Epstein of "America's Truth Forum" reveal they have been advised by Pakistani journalist and Bin Laden biographer Hamid Amir that Al-Qaeda will use smuggled nukes against the US if the US takes military action against Iran.

Amir established his credentials by correctly predicting that Egypt would be hit by terrorist action a full two weeks prior to the events of last week. Amir, a Pakistani journalist, has been in contact with high ranking Al-Qaeda officials for several years.

The debate (between Richard Miniter and Paul Williams) and press conference were webcast LIVE by Rightalk.com. Audio files of both events will be available for downloading by this afternoon.


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KEYWORDS: 4kooks; alqaedanukes; artbellstuff; globaljihad; hamadmir; iran; irannukes; iranstrikes; jihadinamerica; nukes; rightalk; terrorists; tinfoilhat
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1 posted on 04/28/2006 9:03:42 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J

Isn't it about time the world got rid of these sub-human vermin?? Once and for all.


2 posted on 04/28/2006 9:05:03 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Bob J
"Terrorists will Use Nukes in America if U.s. Bombs Iran!"

Does anybody think they won't if we don't?

3 posted on 04/28/2006 9:05:06 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Bob J

Will they nuke San Fransisco, New York, Los Angeles and other terrorist friendly cities?


4 posted on 04/28/2006 9:06:45 AM PDT by lormand (...the wrong person came out of the water that fateful night in Chappaquiddick)
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To: Izzy Dunne
If they haven't used them yet, I find it difficult to believe that they actually have them right now.

Bomb without fear.

6 posted on 04/28/2006 9:06:53 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

The only "variable" in the Terrorist Nuke equation is what excuse they will use with their buddies in the MSM. Iran works fine, so does any number of Pali/Hamas issues, presence in Afganistan and/or Iraq also works...


7 posted on 04/28/2006 9:07:25 AM PDT by C210N (Bush SPYED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: Bob J
Al-Qaeda will use smuggled nukes against the US if the US takes military action against Iran.

Why would AQ wait for us to attack Iran to use nukes? If they had 'em, they'd have surely used 'em by now.

8 posted on 04/28/2006 9:07:50 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Izzy Dunne
Does anybody think they won't if we don't?

How many times is this "smuggled nukes" nonsense going to be predicted?

If al-Qaeda had the capability to use nukes in the US, they would have already used them.

Their top people are getting picked off, weekly. They're losing strength. They're done in Iraq.

al-Qaeda may be TRYING to secure nuclear weapons or dirty nuclear material, but they don't have it. Read Richard Miniter's book!!

9 posted on 04/28/2006 9:08:49 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

"Does anybody think they won't if we don't?"

Terrorists don't have nukes- at an absolute minimum they would have shown off pictures of them if they had them.

And Iran won't be able to give nukes to terrorists for use against the US without having the Persian race removed from the face of the earth in retaliation. One good thing about nukes is that you can tell after the explosion where the nukes were made based on tell-tale radioactive isotopes left over.

Once Iran gets nukes it will be a lot like Pakistan- they will just have them. And life will go on. If they ever do use them, it will most likely be against Israel- they have no missiles capable of reaching the US.


10 posted on 04/28/2006 9:09:10 AM PDT by Altair333
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To: Bob J
If a nuke makes it into the US via loose border control, the GOP is done politically.
11 posted on 04/28/2006 9:09:36 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Bob J
Like others, to me this is a non-warning warning. If they have them they'll use them, regardless of what we do.

However, the word needs to get back to them, if they use nukes against us, we will turn all of the Muslim world... ALL OF IT... into a wasteland, starting with Mecca, Qom, Tehran, Damascus, etc. 

12 posted on 04/28/2006 9:11:00 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Altair333

They may have nukes, and the supplies to keep them mostly up to spec.

The question is, will attacking Iran trigger an assault by them? I doubt it. It'll be random and a bolt from the blue style massive attack.


13 posted on 04/28/2006 9:11:18 AM PDT by elchrio
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To: sinkspur
How many times is this "smuggled nukes" nonsense going to be predicted?

Until he gets it right or people finally ignore him enough to make him go away.

14 posted on 04/28/2006 9:13:05 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: Gordongekko909
If they haven't used them yet, I find it difficult to believe that they actually have them right now.

Perhaps they're just waiting for the right sort of 'target rich' envrironment. Something like, say, hundreds of thousands of people out in the streets of a large number of major cities all at the same time?

15 posted on 04/28/2006 9:13:45 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Gordongekko909

What is it with Muslim males and the need to bluster. It must been genetic. They all have to pop off at the mouth with these grandiose threats and yet they all seem to end up as empty blather from Failureworld.

Saddam took the cake with his threat of "THE MOTHER OF ALL BATTLES" while getting his a$$ handed to him in less than 4 days but the Iranian nutjob is making a run at him.

If necessary, bomb the hell out of them and ignore the empty threats.


16 posted on 04/28/2006 9:13:46 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: Phsstpok

That ain't going to happen.


17 posted on 04/28/2006 9:13:58 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J
Al-Qaeda will use smuggled nukes against the US if the US takes military action against Iran.

Then we will nuke Iran and Pakistan. Club members paying dues.

18 posted on 04/28/2006 9:15:29 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: Neville72
What is it with Muslim males and the need to bluster.

Believe me, I've noticed. Everything is a confrontation to these guys. They think that everyone around them is trying to one-up them.

19 posted on 04/28/2006 9:15:55 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Bob J
But if we do what they want, they wouldn't use nukes? Sure.

They'll use nukes 5 minutes after they get them. Port security has a 3% of catching them.

20 posted on 04/28/2006 9:16:08 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Bob J
"Terrorists will Use Nukes in America if U.s. Bombs Iran!"

..is that before or after the giant spiders are unloaded from the mothership?

21 posted on 04/28/2006 9:16:33 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF ...8thTFW...408MMS..Ubon ,Thailand..."69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO!!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Why would AQ wait for us to attack Iran to use nukes? If they had 'em, they'd have surely used 'em by now.

They may not be good at much, but they are patient and do know how to wait until their plan can have a maximum shock effect. What better way than to threaten the top superpower in the world with nukes if we attack Iran.

Now if we don't attack Iran they can claim to have stood up to us and caused us to back down.

If America does attack Iran and they set off nukes in our major cities (D.C., NYC, LA, etc.) and cause mass panic and chaos in the country, they show that they are capable of carrying out their threats.

Granted the Middle East may glow in the dark, if they did do something like that, but we are not at war with a rational people. Just MHO. - OB1

22 posted on 04/28/2006 9:16:37 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (History will record that America's unprotected southern border was its Trojan horse.)
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To: Altair333

You said -- "Terrorists don't have nukes- at an absolute minimum they would have shown off pictures of them if they had them."

Hmmm..., I'm trying to remember the pictures of planes crashing into buildings that they showed us before they did it...

So..., you don't think they have operational secrecy, huh?

That's an interesting war they are running. They first show us pictures of their weapons. Then they tell us where they are going to do it. And then, they just walk right in and pull it off.

If they were that stupid, we wouldn't have two big buildings down.

Regards,
Star Traveler


23 posted on 04/28/2006 9:16:57 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Bob J
"advised by Pakistani journalist and Bin Laden biographer stealth jihadist Hamid Amir that Al-Qaeda will use smuggled nukes against the US if the US takes military action against Iran."
24 posted on 04/28/2006 9:17:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("truth is not invalidated by suppression"--nicmarlo)
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To: Gordongekko909

Maybe it's because by simply existing, everybody around them one-ups them because they're vermin?


25 posted on 04/28/2006 9:19:06 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: EagleUSA
Isn't it about time the world got rid of these sub-human vermin?? Once and for all.

Now, now, we must not upset the liberals by calling for the extension of their "friends" in the middle east. We must be more tolerant. We must understand why they hate us. We must not judge them harshly. We must love them, cuddle them, give them money, ask their forgiveness, etc. We must not fear them. They simply want to be our friends. (sarcasm still on).

26 posted on 04/28/2006 9:19:11 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Politicians and the U.S. Government are liars, cheats and thieves, in it for their own gain.)
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To: Bob J

Will they then expect the reverse to happen; that if someone uses a nuclear device in the U.S., we'll obliterate Iran?


28 posted on 04/28/2006 9:19:12 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Bob J
Where are the libs? Whenever President Bush says "We will win the WOT" they attack, saying this is bravado, cowboy mentality, antagonistic.

Now there is a country in the world threatening over and over and over to use NUCLEAR WEAPONS on their enemies, and the anti-war, pacifist, anti-nuclear lefties are mute.

29 posted on 04/28/2006 9:19:36 AM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: Bob J
"Terrorists will Use Nukes in America if U.s. Bombs Iran!"

And just what do they think the result will be? Lets start a contest on what to call the sand pile we used to call Iran.

30 posted on 04/28/2006 9:20:52 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: lormand
"Will they nuke San Fransisco, New York, Los Angeles and other terrorist friendly cities?"

New York is definitely NOT a terrorist-friendly city, in spite of the city's liberal bent. Too many here have lost family and friends.
31 posted on 04/28/2006 9:21:01 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Altair333
Once Iran gets nukes it will be a lot like Pakistan- they will just have them. And life will go on.

Not everywhere. Seems that is part of the problem.

If they ever do use them, it will most likely be against Israel-

Oh, well, if that's all...

That's just OK then?

32 posted on 04/28/2006 9:21:34 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: OB1kNOb
If America does attack Iran and they set off nukes in our major cities (D.C., NYC, LA, etc.) and cause mass panic and chaos in the country, they show that they are capable of carrying out their threats.

This is prisonplanet.com fantasy.

33 posted on 04/28/2006 9:21:56 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Just so long as they aren't replaced by Dhimmicrats.

The GOP is only a means to an end, namely a conservative national policy on the issues. If they cannot produce, they should be replaced. Just not by something predictably worse.
34 posted on 04/28/2006 9:22:11 AM PDT by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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To: Bob J

If they possess nukes, and have the capability to bring them in, then they will nuke the US whether Iran is attacked or not.


35 posted on 04/28/2006 9:22:17 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Bob J
"Amir, a Pakistani journalist, has been in contact with high ranking Al-Qaeda officials for several years."

Which makes it a virtual certainty that he is one of them, like the AP and Roto-rooters 'stringers' who seem to stumble upon miraculously good opportunities to photograph terrorists in action........
36 posted on 04/28/2006 9:22:24 AM PDT by Enchante (Mary McCarthy & Richard Clarke: Al Qaeda and Iraq helped to produce VX in Sudan!!!)
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To: Phsstpok

You said -- "However, the word needs to get back to them, if they use nukes against us, we will turn all of the Muslim world... ALL OF IT... into a wasteland, starting with Mecca, Qom, Tehran, Damascus, etc."

I still don't see (when people mention this option) what kind of deterrence that has. Most of the people in those places you mentioned have no ideas what is going on. They are not involved in operations. They don't fight in the wars and so on. They couldn't stop a single terrorist operation if they tried. So, I fail to understand what they have to do with it.

Now, on the other hand, I think the religion of Islam should be destroyed. That's another matter. I think we can destroy that and allow those people (the millions of current Muslims) find another religion. It's an evil religion and that religion needs to be destroyed, because it's a Satanic religion and it has them enslaved (just as the Bible points out that Satan enslaves and oppresses others through his lies and guile and deception). That's Islam for you.

The people are one thing and the religion is another.

By the way, if you start bombing these other areas because of the Muslims there -- you are going to have to bomb larges areas of the United States, too. If you don't, then there is no consistency to your reasoning.

Regards,
Star Traveler


37 posted on 04/28/2006 9:22:26 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Bob J
If they had them, they would have already used them.

This is senseless fear mongering at its worst.

38 posted on 04/28/2006 9:23:08 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: Bob J

I don't know whether they can get functioning nukes into America. I do believe, however, that they would have used them by now if they already have them here.


39 posted on 04/28/2006 9:23:18 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Altair333

"Once Iran gets nukes it will be a lot like Pakistan- they will just have them. And life will go on. "

No, they will launch a conventional attack against Israel with Syria and Hamas joining the fray.


40 posted on 04/28/2006 9:23:19 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats = The Culture of Treason)
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To: RonF

If Al Qaeda does use nukes, what would our excuse be for nuking Iran, Mecca or Damascus? The best we could do is nuke what we think is Al Qaeda's hideout...which is in Pakistan.

If we get it, we won't be able to do a damn thing that we haven't done already.


41 posted on 04/28/2006 9:23:22 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I'm talking about Arab-Americans here. It's like Napoleon Complex spread out across an entire culture. It's nowhere near as big a problem with second- and third-generation Arabs, but the ones who just came over are jerks.


42 posted on 04/28/2006 9:23:42 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Bob J
That ain't going to happen.That ain't going to happen.

Nuke goes off in NY, or Dallas or New Orleans, etc., and I guarantee you that there will be nuclear retaliation against any identified source within 90 minutes, max.

Nuke goes off in such a way as to take out the President or any significant portion of our government and there will be a general bombardment of that entire region.

Nuke goes off anywhere on the planet and marshal law will be declared, all potential enemies will be warned to not approach our assets anywhere in any way, shape or form, and no ship, plane or any other form of transportation will be allowed within 50 miles of our borders.

Oh, and troops will be deployed with shoot to kill orders at all borders and ports.

43 posted on 04/28/2006 9:23:52 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: technomage

But Hillary supports a fence on the border...


44 posted on 04/28/2006 9:23:58 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Carry_Okie
If a nuke makes it into the US via loose border control, the GOP is done politically.

You can say that again! This is why security needs to be made paramount (and I don't mean wanding old ladies at the airport), otherwise the GOP risks going the way of the Whigs should a terrorist bring in a nuke (it wouldn't matter BTW if it came via our border with Canada, with Mexico, or through shipping ports).

45 posted on 04/28/2006 9:24:13 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: OB1kNOb

"They may not be good at much, but they are patient and do know how to wait until their plan can have a maximum shock effect."

October this year. Followed by a Democrat call that Bush hasn't protected us from Terror.


46 posted on 04/28/2006 9:24:22 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats = The Culture of Treason)
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To: Bob J
Bla...bla....bla.....same crap different day.

If they had 'em they would have used them by now.

Why don't we shut these fools up already?

47 posted on 04/28/2006 9:24:52 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: michigander

You said -- "Perhaps they're just waiting for the right sort of 'target rich' envrironment. Something like, say, hundreds of thousands of people out in the streets of a large number of major cities all at the same time?"

They also may be looking for a "connecting event" in the Middle East. In other words, this sort of thing may be sprung on the U.S. at the same time that several countries invade Israel. It might be designed to keep the "enemy" (in their eyes) busy at home, while they do the "elimination of Israel" thing that they are so intent on doing.

Regards,
Star Traveler


48 posted on 04/28/2006 9:24:57 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: sinkspur
Why is that a valid argument. The "if they had nukes" why wouldn't they use them" is crazy! P. Williams shot that argument down. It is all about planning, coordination, and getting them in the country.

Also thy have to follow Sahria Law. Thy must get essentially the "blessing" or the go ahead from a cleric or a number of clerics to OK the slaughter of innocent, non-combatives. They also must allow for a truce or submission. If this is ignored or refused the attitude is "well we covered all of our bases. The West has no one to blame but themselves." Kind of like the last few tapes that were out.

The people in charge are not stupid-yeah, real fun to poke fun at-but not stupid and very, very fanatically religious. Not a great mix.

The "would have used them if they got them" is wishful thinking, head in the sand approach. They play by a warped, disgusting set of rules...and it seems like those have been met. If I hear the admin say "we have them on the run" one more time when a tape is released...!

I think our guys know much more and are trying not to panic the country and the markets.

"My fellow Americans, Osama has nukes and we feel he will use them.." That will go over like a turd in the Punch bowl!!
49 posted on 04/28/2006 9:26:27 AM PDT by repubzilla
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To: Gordongekko909

Believe me, I've noticed. Everything is a confrontation to these guys. They think that everyone around them is trying to one-up them.

I guess 1200 years of little accomplishment as compared to the rest of the world makes them a bit insecure and thin-skinned. IMHO that's why they hate Israel so much. It's a daily, in-you-face reminder that the Israelis accomplished in 30 or 40 years what the Muzzies haven't been able to in 1200. Hence the need to puff themselves up by loosing empty threats at everyone.

50 posted on 04/28/2006 9:26:43 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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